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WilshireBoulevard

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  1. I think that the whole idea of her being "un-PC" in her early days (as a certain member loves to talk about) needs to be talked about cautiously and carefully and with a lot more nuance than often given to it, but I think it plays a role in why she attracted the demographic she did in the BTD and Paradise days that has been sustained with leaks from her Lizzy era since. There's that quote from a critic about her (earlier) stuff being desperate, shirt-tugging, "don't leave me" that the critic hated, and I definitely think it's there. She presented love as an undying devotion with elements of desperation, doom, death etc. that really didn't fit into the zeitgeist at the time because of shifting discourses. The whole femme fatale themes of film noir and to some extent, the 80s (so a lot of the films and ideas she grew up with) weren't popular at the time. I think a big part of why so much of her *active* fanbase is LGBT people and women (and of course the overlap) is because she was a contemporary female artist singing about that destructive and obsessive love while no one else really was, and making it look (and sound) glamorous and sexy. For LGBT and/or girl teens and young adults, there were relatively little artists willing to explore that side of love that you feel so strongly, because (for good reasons) a lot of discourse about love and attraction has been critical. That's probably why there's a lot (a LOT) of overlap between Lana fans and people who want to uncritically enjoy things like Lolita (particularly the Lolita "aesthetic") and CMBYN. Lana gave people spaces for people to be desperate and completely devoted with BTD and Paradise, and then followed up with UV as one of the best break-up albums. Most of the diehard BTD and UV stans don't really like HM as much, as far as I've seen, and I think part of this is because HM is a lot less dramatic in its lyrics and themes and is where change started to happen. I'd add some more about the reclamation of things like religion (e.g. Tropico) and power (e.g. the national anthem video) but eh. Might be misunderstanding but her detachment from the fanbase is kind of unprecedented in the stan age. The whole "Lana hates us and that's okay" thing definitely contains a grain of truth. I think she has a very understandable disdain for a lot of her fanbase, because a lot of her fanbase have very little respect for her and so she's kind of broken away and doesn't share much of her life now. She doesn't hate her fanbase imo - she clearly likes Win Edwards, who despite all the jokes is in some ways the ideal fan from her pov; clearly adores her but respects her boundaries. A lot of people here see going to every show as weird and obsessive but she's had much worse and much more dangerous than that, which is probably why she doesn't really interact with her fans much unless she's got something to sell. This inactiveness inevitably gets caught up in the "Lana hates us" narrative though. I'd also say that her change in dress and habits put people off. She's not an Ariana or Taylor Swift in that her success drives her to want to do more and better. Her success made her wealthy and she grew out of the more dramatic narratives, maybe got some therapy and didn't need or want to peddle that type of thing anymore. She's a wealthy white woman living in California who goes to church with her friends, wants a couple of kids, dresses comfortably, (probably) wants a husband and, going by what Sean was, doesn't want that husband to be an artistic type, but more on the boring suburban dad side. AKA she's living a very normal and basic heteronormative life, just with a bunch of money. That added to the fact she never really comfortably embraced her LGBT fanbase is what is turning some people off imo, and with stan twitter culture this switch can be read into ad nauseam.
  2. Something something lemons are bitter oranges are sweet and maybe she's moving to orange county instead of LA-
  3. She hasn't updated her website to take down the NFR tour dates, doubt she'll be posting ig updates anytime soon. That was in a very specific context - she said it regarding Donald Trump supporters, and that she doesn't mind losing those fans if they're pissed about her being (vaguely) against Trump. I think people get the message that she's not still people's cigarette beauty queen lolita chasing after bad boys and getting into car crashes or whatever. I'd be fine if she fully cut ties and stopped doing the very occassional live streams and updates whenever she's got something to sell. It would be much better than the lack of professionalism we see now, with the mess that was the NFR release date being replicated w VBB.
  4. Chaos agents, particularly in the U.S. (white supremacists and/or people who want a second civil war) have been discussing how to spread the virus more via their online forums and some white supremacists were recently caught and arrested after the F.B.I. uncovered a plot to bomb a hospital with Corona virus patients in it. The most important thing to do is to stay inside as much as possible and not worry too much about where the virus came from at the moment.
  5. Love conspiracy theories, hate those who mindlessly buy into the dumb ones
  6. So.... this place https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/15/cia-fort-detrick-stephen-kinzer-228109 that was used for CIA mind-control research was shut down in summer 2019 and had projects halted ( https://wjla.com/news/local/cdc-shut-down-army-germ-lab-health-concerns ) for serious violations. Check out the urban legends section of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_470 . This was around the time that people started dying of pneumonia induced by vaping in the US over summer. Here's a bit from the CDC on the vaping-related deaths - they peaked in August 2019 https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html . Trump's govt took a weirdly hardline approach considering the money involved in vaping, banning all flavoured vapes, and it was enacted around the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020 https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/31/trump-abandons-sweeping-vape-ban-with-new-slimmed-down-rules-091864 . Here's a bit on the 2019-20 flu season for America: Link: http://outbreakobservatory.org/outbreakthursday-1/1/9/2020/united-states-influenza-2019-2020-season Anyway, the 2019 military games took place in Wuhan, late October, and Chinese officials are starting to suspect that this was the start of the outbreak, not bats in wetmarkets. 13/41 of the first recognised cases in Wuhan had no connection to the wetmarkets. Trump calling it the "Chinese virus" is also not just him being naturally racist - people spotted that the paper he was reading it from when he first called it that in a public address had "corona" crossed out and Chinese handwritten beside it. You can decide whether these things have any connection at all, but while the clear aggression being shown towards China specifically by US politicians could just be another cog in the anti-Chinese American machine, or it could be what certain online circles have (quietly) been talking about for a while, since around 2017 - a 2020 war on China. *takes off tinfoil hat*
  7. So their relationship starts with a pap taking pics in central park and ends with him announcing it in the NYT, and promoting his TV show. You did it all for fame strange how that works? Wonder where all the people who were telling some more... police-critical members to suck it up because they were the real deal are now?
  8. "never voting for a politician" is an awful position to have lol. That's how we get people like johnson in power doing nothing except advocating eugenics-lite.
  9. If this is the end I want a boyfriend. Confirmed as far as I'm concerned.
  10. Talking about people on ig fan accounts =/= harassing them. The Francesco thing was very different from what I'm saying.
  11. Like a couple dancing and twirling in an empty ballroom during the chorus with a heavy oil-painting filter. Dreamy
  12. To anyone self-isolating, find a youtube video with a valid code for audible and download that book you've been putting off reading. Allthemed docs on youtube have some interesting documentaries. Now's the time to explore that niche interest you're too busy to look into on a daily basis. Light a candle, drink plenty of fluids, stay safe <3
  13. Hot take but i feel like fans should be able to talk shit about people on fan ig accounts. You could maybe make a case for not commenting on people's personal ig, like Sean and her dancers, but I know of very few other famous musicians who put their fans on blast the way people around Lana do, like her guitar guy did when someone complained about NFR songs not being in the NFR tour, and like Ben reacting to what people say, like Sean DMing people? Like the more I think about it the weirder it is.
  14. I could just swim in her eyes
  15. He's also been liking moody breakup posts from the ig account unlimitedknowledge for a while now (the account also has "redpill" in the bio soooo... make of that what you will)
  16. I think it's because it's a really close angle and she's smiling instead of looking kinda forlorn but.. ye..
  17. If they don't cancel the lollas I think she should at least cancel. If her throat / lungs were bad enough that she needed four weeks of rest, she would probably be more at risk for coronavirus. And it's not just an issue of whether there are many cases in that particular country. People travel across continents for festivals. Keeping it on would be really irresponsible imo
  18. I'd be quite concerned if Coachella doesn't get planned tbh. Looking at the precautions other countries are taking, America is really being slow on the draw. Weddings and funerals are cancelled for 16 million people in Italy, massive public gatherings have been cancelled in other countries. Given the drug culture around festivals in general, it would be really easy for someone experiencing mild symptoms to assume it's a side effect of going too hard on drugs or drinks and carry on attending. I think the festivals should be cancelled honestly :/
  19. I appreciate that you feel very strongly about this but given that criticism of any kind upsets you so much, I don't think threads and spaces that are built for discussion (and therefore lead to criticism) are the healthiest place for you if you can't engage in conversations without being so upset by the criticism and attacking the character of those who give it.
  20. Mariners Apartment Complex - 35 Venice Bitch - 41 California - 48 Bartender - 20
  21. Ride 22 Cola 8 Body Electric 16 Gods and Monsters 16 Bel Air 16 Burning Desire 12
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