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another case of unreleased syndrome me thinks 

i love this idea, your videos are beautiful 

can we get an official diagnosis just to make sure 

another case of unreleased syndrome me thinks 

The last comment is actually pretty reasonable. They weren’t being rude just trying to explain why some people have a problem with her signing that letter. 

When i tell you my heart dropped seeing her name on that list...

But on another hand, can we stop with the "I'm sure she meant well" and "She has a good heart she just isn't well informed" excuses? It isn't like this is the first time anyways.
Not to mention, this isn't the 70s or 80s anymore, access to information has never been easier, literally one click away and she could've learned and read/seen all about the history of this ongoing genocide, especially now when for the first time ever it seems public opinion is swaying a bit into the palestinian side and videos are being posted literally everywhere. Not to mention the amount of american musicians and artists who've been very vocal about this such as kehlani and the fact that lana is friends with Elyanna who is palestinian.

And if she was living in her own bubble and hasn't been keeping up much with what's going on, then in that case maybe she shouldn't be going around signing open letters taking stances.

Nothing delusional about the hundreds of pro-Palestinian protests going on in the world, which you would’ve been hard pressed to find 30 years ago.

I would argue the internet has contributed to more empathy to the people of Palestine than any other time in history, considering Western media has historically funneled a strict pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian narrative for decades. TikTok and firsthand accounts from Gaza are finally starting to break through this script. There is a reason they are blocking the Internet in Gaza.

I think it is important for everyone on this forum to take a step back and realize how lucky we all are to be in the middle of this silly discourse about Lana Del Rey rather than starving in Gaza with no internet, electricity, food, or water. I also recommend that people watch the firsthand accounts of civilians who are begging us to listen.

I think its because if you support someone by listening to their music, buying their albums/merch, giving them money etc. and that person takes that money and donates it to a political party or foundation that is actively trying to take away your rights then why would you want to support that person?
Not to mention that they may influence a whole new generation of people to be sexist, homophobic, racist, etc. and giving people like that more of a platform only means that more hate and discrimination will be spread.

The difference is sovereignty. While western countries do not shy away from occupation and proxy wars, Israel’s occupation of Gaza and initiation of an apartheid like regime is the LONGEST in history, AND illegal. They are allowed to colonize Palestinian land unchecked, settler violence in the West Bank was skyrocketing up until this year…. I think the most EYE OPENING fact I learned from the interview linked above, that REALLY put everything into perspective, is that she makes a point that ALL “PALESTINIAN PEOPLE” are registered in the Israeli human registry…… while Israel air strikes literally wipe families off the earth in Gaza, their doctors and nurses are using what connection to the outside world they have to notify Israel’s government of the deaths… it’s insane to me!! they don’t even have their own citizenship. They are owned by Israel completely. They were forced into a shrinking prison and poked and prodded and oppressed for 20 years. Now they have been LITERALLY cut off from the rest of the world. The amount of people we just don’t know the status of because they are more than likely buried in the rubble is staggering… Palestinians don’t even HAVE the right to protest, not only in Israel but across the Middle East and Europe. Any time they have ever lead demonstrations, civilians were brutally attacked and killed. Of which there is concrete evidence, unlike this 40 babies thing. We cannot allow Israel to escape the blame for this. While I condemn acts of war and the tragedies that took place on October 7th, make no mistake that WAR IS TERROR.
 
WAR IS A CRIME.

i sometimes just think - and this applies to both celebrities and ordinary people - when you’re tackling a subject as extremely nuanced, sensitive and historically rich as this one while you’re not quite fully informed or you’ve only researched as far as instagram infographics and television talking points, why not just…. sit this one out? if you’re being badgered for a response, why not just make a post like will poulter did where he basically said “i don’t know enough to comment or share a solid stance yet”?? there’s literally no shame in admitting to not having a deeply nuanced understanding of a very particular and very complex geopolitical issue, especially if you plan to eventually educate yourself on it.
 
i sometimes find that people regurgitate things without truly understanding them. and in some ways, i can’t blame them for that! if you’re being presented with everything going on in israel right now and it’s the first time you’ve ever seen anything like it or if everyone you know is telling you it’s wrong (without mentioning palestine while doing so) or if you’re a little out of touch and get all of your news from biased outlets and you’re being told that babies are being beheaded and women are being raped and civilians are being held hostage, i can see why 47 year old mum-of-three Linda from Huddersfield would be horrified and think “oh my giddy aunt, peace for israel!!!” and overlay an israeli flag on her facebook profile picture and sad react to images of crying children in a war torn country (without realising that image is probably a mislabelled photograph from palestine - hi jamie lee curtis!). however, that necessarily doesn’t mean it’s the ‘right’ stance of course.
 
i’ve been marching for palestine’s freedom since around 2014 so i know a fair deal about the situation, but i *still* don’t feel i know enough to give a truly enlightening take. but of what i do know and what i have researched, i firmly believe i’m on the right ‘side’. my personal thoughts on this situation are: of course i don’t want any innocent civilians to be hurt in either country, of course i’m against war of all kinds, of course i don’t necessarily agree with some of the choices hamas have made, but do i think the acts are unprovoked? absolutely not. and it is truly terrifying that for the YEARS that palestinians have been suffering, there’s not been a PEEP from the media about it. online outlets are even going so far in the defence of israel that they’re taking horrifying photographs of war-torn palestine and labelling them as photographs of israel when they’re not, just to garner public sympathy. suddenly the tables have somewhat turned - i say “somewhat” because there is absolutely a power imbalance  between the two countries - and all of a sudden people are concerned and israel is the victim? i think not.
 
i hope for the safety of every innocent civilian involved in both countries and i hope for the freedom of palestine. the situation is too complex to be summed up via flag emojis and hashtags. and this letter that lana signed…. well i’m disappointed but not surprised. it mentions palestine which is a start - perhaps even why so many famous people felt comfortable putting their names on the letter? - but it’s not enough.
 
anyway there’s my take that nobody asked for 

In a nutshell, Palestinian group Hamas killed a number of innocent Israelis at a concert (about 250 Israelis). They did it because over the years, Israelis, who never had their own country before, occupied their land (Palestine) and took full control of it. Today's Israel is essentially Palestinian land taken over by Europe-fled Jews and Zionists by sheer force. All of this is available in history books, on YouTube, official UN documents, etc. 
 
To retaliate against the massacre, Israel decided to commit a genocide in the remaining Palestinian land (Gaza) and they've already bombed and slaughtered thousands, mostly women, children, sick people in hospitals, and so forth. They also cut off their electricity, water supplies, etc. leaving thousands of innocent people in the dark as they're getting bombed.
 
Israel's aim is to expel Palestinians into the Sanai desert or into Egypt (another country that Israelis do not own but have said that Egypt has to "play ball"), so they can remove them from their own territory forever and finish their occupation, i.e. extermination.
 
Biden and America are supporting the genocide - openly with visits to Israel, moral and financial support. They've previously funded Israel's attacks on Palestine and supported them with weapon supplies. Because it's in the interest of American Jews, of course.
 
Now, most sane and educated celebrities like Cate Blanchett, Mark Ruffalo, Roony Mara and many others have openly come out in support of Palestine, demanding ceasefire (for the genocide to stop). Countries like Russia, Ireland, Spain, the United Arab Emirates, among others, are defending the Palestinians and some want to cut their diplomatic ties with Israel.
 
The world of social media on a global level and protesters everywhere are asking for the same thing. Especially since there are thousands of videos and images of these mass graves in Palestine, confirming the genocide. 
 
(To spare you from seeing all this footage - think bodies of babies after explosions, mothers sreaming, doctors discovering their own family members' dead bodies at the hospital, thousands of houses turning into ash, families being wiped out, ice-cream trucks being used for body storage, reporters being killed, and so on.)
 
On the other hand, you have Natalie Portman, Gal Gadot, Amy Schumer, Quentin Tarantino and other Jewish celebrities or Jewish aficionados, asking for the "war" to continue because the Palestinians mean nothing to them and, as the Israelis say, they're "just animals". They're advocating for the whole nation to be wiped out in plane sight. Of course, they're using the concert massacre as an excuse and spinning the story their way via the western media. But it's tough because we live in an era of social.
 
So, it seems that Lana has - once again - shot herself in the foot, not really informing herself and educating herself enough on a topic before putting her finger in it

This just proves how dizzy she is at times and that her managers and publicist let her get away with anything - as long as they get paid.
 
I feel sorry for her, in a way, because she doesn't seem to be that smart about her career and, if she keeps this up, she will surely get cancelled one day.
 
Lastly, before anyone who's Jewish or is misinformed comes after me, you should know that I'm a Serbian Christian Orthodox guy with no ties to Palestine, Israel or the US. What I wrote her is just pure, unbiased facts.
 
If anyone wants to challenge me on this, let's discuss in a civilised way. But I hope you have access to Reuters and other fact-based websites.
 
Hope this helps.

I hope she never collaborates with The Weeknd again, I really hate his voice. 

i need to let go of her. i'd rather listen to someone who's silent on these issues than have somebody agree with takes that are.... reductive and not even right in the slightest. i'm not even getting anything from this.  so go ahead marina lol you have a good life and you speak up on issues you don't even comprehend just cause you gotta use your platform. you're so.....woke.. 
im actually done and im not gonna hate watch her every move like im just done as in goodbye type of done

I HAVE NO WORDS RN 

This is my dream setlist <3 25 songs, in no particular order, that if i only could, i would pick for her to sing at her concert. I would just die to see her pick up the guitar and sing Yayo like she used to very Lizzy Grantesque. I'm luck i got to see her perform some of these in Rio earlier this year. 
 
Id love to see her do a less BTD focused concert in the future and give more space to her other albums.
 
1. Blue jeans 
2. Million dollar man - screaming her lungs out kinda way
3. Video games - i love the song i love the swing its iconic i hope she peforms it forever and ever 
4. Young and Beautiful
5. Yayo 
6. Cruel world 
7. West coast 
8. Pretty when you cry 
9. Shades of cool 
10. Honeymoon 
11. High by the beach 
12. Freak - we would be thrown into a new dimension and never comeback
13. Cherry - i love how she loves to perform cherry and its honestly sucha banger i never get tired of it
14. Mariners apartment complex
15. Venice bitch - NFR 
16. Happiness is a butterfly 
17. The greatest 
18. Wild at heart 
19. Dark but just a game  
20. Arcadia 
21. Wildflower wildfire 
22. Living legend - just imagine she goes WHYWHWYWHYWHWYWHY
23. A&W 
24. Candy necklaces 
25. Paris, Texas 

BONUS:
Flipside - she has been perfoming Flipside in this tour and its so beautiful, the guitars give us chills
Dragonslayer - if i could pick ANY unrealeased to see live it would be this
 
AGAIN its a DREAM SETLIST. Just for fun. What would yours be??? 

Don’t have the clarity to put together in a cohesive sequence rn so it’s in order of discography, but…
 
1. Born to Die 
2. Off to the Races
3. Video Games 
4. Diet Mountain Dew
5. Million Dollar Man
6. Ride
7. Cola
8. Body Electric
9. Gods & Monsters
10. Yayo
11. Burning Desire
12. Old Money
13. Florida Kilos
14. Terrence Loves You
15. Religion
16. Get Free
17. Fuck it I love you
18. The greatest
19. Tulsa Jesus Freak
20. Nectar of the Gods
21. A&W
22. Paris, Texas
23. Grandfather…
24. Let the Light in 
25. Taco Truck x VB

we need more of her cheeky nature, like with Dealer, songs that are not so bitterly serious but just fun to listen to

laughing at all the tiktok bitches who said ocean blvd would be her last 

https://www.tiktok.com/@awtls/video/7260729657677417771
 
"it's like a tiktok thing" 

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