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@ Ultraviolence hit #1 BTD was #2 and is still charting Honeymoon one would think is guaranteed Top 3 unless they fix it bad again (as of the moment there is really no other big album that week. Keith Richards solo won't be a #1 contender. Unless there is a surprise it would seem unlikely she don't get 1 or 2. The awards will come in writing, in the proper placement of a cover version perhaps. Took Brian Wilson 40 years before he got his first grammy She is doing what male singers have done since day one. Never did you hear anyone question the authenticity of Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Simon & Garfunkel (who like Lana had a surprise hit when an acoustic song was electrified without their knowledge (Sounds of Silence) If say she remains a niche artist, well, Leonard Cohen has done nicely and Lana's sales actually have topped his lifetime sales and he is 80. One day we will be walking through the food store and hearing Video Games and West Coast and High by the beach in spite of it. America is not overly kind to individual females who don't adapt to what the male based industry wants of them. The record industry itself doesn't like people going outside the line either... That she still is here and basically giving the finger to the industry and everyone is quite like Johnny Cash's famous picture that later appeared in a Billboard magazine ad after radio programmers wouldn't play his version of "Hurt" http://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/orignal/6779976/billboard_adfeb6.jpg Lana should do a version of that ©photo

@- Lana is NOT everybody else. Nor would a unique person be unique if they were everyone else Why, just read in Billboard Miley Cyrus is releasing a one-off album, with her pop lyrics combining with the Flaming Lips leader Wayne's psycadelic guitars/sounds Glory be, Miley is again copying Lana having production by Dan Auerbach. I am not a Miley liker or dislike. I don't seek out her material, nor is she unique. So to all those who want Lana to be everyone else, I say, THANK GOD Lana is not everyone else. That is what makes her special. She don't give a shit about singles. Just having a #1 or #2 or Top 10 album is enough for AN ALBUM ARTIST. Who releases albums so they could be heard Cut 1 to the final cut on the album proper. So Lana is doing what Rick Nelson wrote- As Rick Nelson sang and wrote "Seems you can't please everyone so you, got to please yourself.

@exoticnightshade- Was much aware of Lizzy very early on in NYC, much prior to LDR -but further- I myself had major health problems due to excess and 100% yes. 2011-2012 her music spoke to me and got me through ever since, inspired me, helped me during exercise in pool to, The BPMs in songs like Video Games and others is the exact same in swimming strokes (how many times one hands hits the water when swimming a lap), and other exercises in a pool. and I never expected to hear an artist so in synch with me ever again. It has been basically since 1985 since the last artist.(PSBs, with the punk/new wave, especially the UK and NYC acts at CBGBs and Max's Kansas City, Kate Bush, Elton, the 1960s (and knowing and having seen Nina Simone in concert), and going back to learn about older artists and more older country music on top of that (Ride could be a song Johnny Cash or Merle Haggard could do) And am someone who (not dropping names but), who has seen all of the artists Lana references in concert at the height of their popularity so know the references from when the artists released the song they reference. Knowing now about what Terence she is referencing puts a lot altogether in total focus. It's almost like a jigsaw puzzle being completed or the old tv game show "Concentration" and put it all together and EG is the single most unique artist, major artist to show up in decades. With far more variety than others who might have had one or two unbelievable singles. (and she writes it, she writes it, something Elvis and Sinatra never did)

@@DeadAgainst- not to mention High by the beach is a direct sequel reference to Put me in the movies (Little Girls) with the major word change in it and Bowie and Lou Reed and Iggy Pop always were connected and Elizabeth has referenced Lou for years (and was going to record with him, touching down in NYC the almost exact hour he out of nowhere and unexpectly died before it happened. (Brooklyn Baby the most recent, of course the chorus of Born to die the song (Take a walk on the wide side) which of course is a Lou Reed line from "Walk on the wild side" It has been what, 40 years since I last listened to the Bewlay Brothers song recently been listening to both Without You and Put me in the movies (not to mention Pawn shop) in the last month or so a lot of times. Everything is connected. Like soul mates.

I think it is far, far deeper than just the media/paparazzi/fans I think the proverbial monster Elizabeth created is Lana Del Rey And I think (as my post in the Terence Loves you thread and elsewhere) says, Elizabeth might just be doing something three others have time and again been said (rumored to have done, and two of which are perhaps the two biggest names of all to her. Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison (and the third being Andy Kaufman). Only in this case, there is actual rebirth. (and I am not a fan of the younger people saying each album is an era, however, end of an era may indeed be the birth of a new one. (and if not, makes for a great movie, after all, In Hollywood... where everything is anything and anything can happen and often does So in the album cover it is Elizabeth in photo her sister took, much like a regular person has a relative with them taking a picture), riding past the homes of the stars, stars like Lana Del Rey. I am so thankful that I am along for the ride and will be anxiously awaiting the next chapter. Can't think of anyone else ever, who could actually pull this off or at least get anyone (in this case me) to believe so much that it is Much like Richard(Christopher Reeve back when he was young and beautiful) believed and Elise (Jane Seymour back when she was young & beautiful), not only believed, but said "is it you" in Somewhere in Time 1980 until the bad penny showed up (and what a soundtrack that had). because in Holllllllywood as the song goes (and should be a bonus cut)

Actually, I like this default picture, though the one on her instagram from months ago with no or little makeup sitting on the stoop outside a house at the time is my favorite pix of Lana. Does that picture exist in a jpg? Though like others say, the default picture makes differentiating posters really annoying.

So Terrence is David Bowie (nee:Jones) brother who inspired David to get into beat poetry and beat authors and American rock and roll and who was schizophrenic (double personality) and hospitalized around 1970 and who committed suicide in the mid 1980 jumping in front of a train. The song makes now, total sense. Cooler than cool. Elizabeth Grant's mind is like a walking encyclopedia

best grammy nomination for vocal event of the year

@@komodo- USA- NYC area and I don't see it. Will look again

What about the deluxe edition or the box set? Don't see any links for it. Nor any bundles on her own site. Where are people seeing this? Any validity on Angels Forever being an I-tunes exclusive and if one orders now, will the exclusives be added in at time of release? (and is this a newly recorded version?)

This is so retro, like Jerry Brown, circa 1992 when he almost became the Democratic nominee with zero money and just regular people calling his 1-800 number and donating ten or twenty dollars in his primary run vs. Bill Clinton. (for those that don't know or aren't from the USA-Jerry was the youngest California Governor, ran for President as a liberal Democrat 3 times) and returned decades later, to being the oldest California Gov. ever, currently in his 4th term.

Ziggy Stardust no more, David Bowie forever Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys. And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow. Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it) The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing. With the end comes the beginning. and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang. David Jones aka Davy Jones. Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury). or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine" Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared). Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory) or not. Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018 Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant I'll be there.

reverb WABC NY music radio 77 reverb in the 60s/70s legendary you went out and bought the single, but it didn't sound like you heard it on WABC when Dan Ingram and Cousin Brucie and Chuck Leonard played it

@dead against- if you take the Bowie thing to its logical conclusion It would mean Lana Del Rey would coming to an end and at the end will be the rebirth David Bowie of course lived long and prospered for decades after Ziggy Stardust actually fell to earth (bad pun) Long Live Elizabeth Grant should that be the analogy. Because we were just heroes, if just for a moment. Long Live David Bowie, no matter where Ziggy Stardust is today, ashes to ashes dusk to dusk (this is an analogy folks) btw, Bowie was in Twin Peaks wasn't he? Continuation coming end of 16 early 17. The world spins.

@ The song Don't let me be misunderstood, was written specific at the time for Nina Simone but has as many reasons and interpretations as Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah (his meaning is it is an analogy for an orgasm, a rapturous orgasm) But it's a cover and a song that had 3 versions of it Nina's was a soulful jazzy blues original The Animals did a rock version later Santa Esmeralda had a disco version and was a major disco era hit

If Terrence is the photographer, then the title is sarcastic and can be taken the opposite- like if Terrence were the guy in the copter Terence may love her, but she don't love Terrence

any word on boxed sets? extra tracks? Who is selling what? How many different versions to be complete? Vinyl?

Swan Song was the name of Led Zeppelin's own vanity label Swan Song Records Maybe it means Lana will be the singer in a rebooted Zep. (being that Plant refuses to take the billions offered him so they need a singer, and being that like Lana, Zeppelin was an album based group not a singles based band(Stairway to heaven was never released as a single) this post could be sarcasm though perhaps it could not be

we know the billboard over Mel's is by Chuck, we know the excellent scale photo on the deck w/the model of the ship was by Chuck How do we know the album art is also by her, as others has said (for unknown reasons) that the billboard shot isnot the album shot. Has that officially been announced, being that there is no actual real lp shot released to the public yet and 99% of the info lately here on this board has been fake, or someones bad idea of a bad joke. (fake lyrics, fake titles, etc.) There should be a separate thread that only moderators write with only 100% verifiable lyrics, titles, art work, as this thread has 358 pages in it, thousands of posts and maybe 6percent of them are real.

Hope the album art is by Chuck. She should release books on her photos. I would love to go to a book signing. also hope Lana would do at least a one-off with a full orchestra and choir. And have it filmed. Perfect in the US for nationwide PBS stations forever more during fund drive weeks. I think doing something like that was always being thought of (and overseas, Lana has used strings). What is more arty anyhow than mixing in classical with rock. After all, the Beatles and Brian Wilson used instruments back in the 60s that were unheard of in rock and roll songs. Now Lana if she is doing a song called Morricone, should do another called Bernard Herrmann who did many of the great Hitchcock soundtracks including Psycho (sex and violins)

I like it. This should also keep the new fans she acquired singing on the Oscars and singing with Tony Bennett. If this is eligible for the Oscars as someone said earlier on, with her Oscar appearance last year, the older voters now familiar with her, she stands a good chance.

Here are the published Billboard Charts for the 8/29 chart- these are accurate- #1 Alternative Digital Songs #5 Pop Digital Songs #9 Digital Songs #51 Hot 100 #44 artist #4 Twitter Top Tracks actually published in the print edition dated 8/22 issue Billboard seems to be blaming Nielsen Ratings firm for the mess up on Monday afternoon. Makes me wonder, Nielsen is also the TV ratings company, how wrong do they get that every week? If your favorite tv show gets cancelled, maybe its from a mistake. If one can't be sure of their numbers once, seems one can never be sure. Hell, yesterday if it's in Billboard's own chart talking about the Top 10, columns, one expects it to be accurate. The above on this post have "gone to print" and are accurate.

Terrance Howard? Terence Trent D'arby?

Someone should do a mash up or suggest a duet between Lana's HBTB and Elton John Believe. One can splice it together and have a helleva duet. its an esoteric meaning connecting the two, between haters and negative and love as a positive. After all, I believe love is getting high by the beach without haters intruding and kicking sand in ones face. (and again, if at the end of the video, the magazine that floats from the now gone helicopter would be billboard, it wouldn't disappoint me) Hopefully Lana will have the last laugh having another Top 5 debut of her new album, prefably at #1 if the powers that be allow that. (I await to see what proverbial grenade they toss in the way to stop it from going #1.

The point is, that it appeared to happen organically. She don't go for singles, and at the end of the day just hitting the charts means the same line in the Whitburn books no matter what the number. Same like Harry Chapin got a surprise #1 even though radio hated his songs and Leonard Cohen has never even hit the American singles charts (His Hallelujah never even charted and Jeff Buckley's barely charted only after it was in I think, West Wing.) That one person in particular called me a liar for saying it was #7, when Billboard magazines log-in page and main internet page said it was, means they fucked up and not that I lied. I don't know what international source some of you use for America's chart number, but Billboard itself said #7 and changed it to #51, something that has never happened in their history on the singles charts, and only once (with Britney Spears album a few years ago where it was suppose to be #1 but only was #2 due to an overnight rule change By tomorrow no one will even know this, except for those negative people that are smirking that it's a bomb.(#51 for a person who doesn't go for singles i is still better than most anyhow, and they can't take her #1 and #2 album away from her. The oddity is, another two hours it would have been official and they would not have changed it. (It would have as they say gone to print). That they publicly gave it then took it away is shameful. But then Billboard magazine last year, when Lana debuted Ultraviolence at #1 on the LP chart, and that Lana imitator Sam Smith was #2, solely focused on him and not her. Because he plays the game and spent more than 2 hours up at Billboard's NYC office. (Same Sam Smith that did the exact same thing on SNL yet his was loved by the media and hers was hated. I didn't hear Lyin' Brian Williams send out tweets on how unprofessional he was. Just goes to show. An imitator is loved, an original who doesn't play by the rules is slapped down viciously in the media. The great thing is, Sam never did hit #1 while she did.