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Hard disagree, sorry. She's the one who brought up that half her friends on the cover are WOC; no one else. Nobody was talking about it at ALL and she was literally like, "look! Half of my friends on the cover are WOC and I also dated rappers." If that's not tokenisation then idk what is. Of course people felt that she was tokenising after those statements, but nobody said that before because nobody was assuming that. 
As for her friends being phony - that applies to ALL of her friends regardless of race. It's been discussed repeatedly here. Clearly, none of them are willing to call her out. 

Underrated comment. 
 
Lana is actually being completely stupid drawing attention to this. 
All of these "lies" spread by journalists have all come after lana has started speaking up about it past backlash because she is terrible at making herself understood on social media (I mean, who isn't, but she is particularly bad at it).
I really miss the 2012 days when Lana said she wouldn't respond to haters at all and stopped reading reviews. She needs to understand soon that it's making things worse and it was in fact better when she didn't retaliate. 

I read her article. It's as stupid as the others ones published for the past 10 years. What else is new?
No one deserves to have their life threatened by a bunch of stans or told to go back to "India and die on the plane on the way there" as someone posted earlier.
Anyway, I said what I said and if people have a problem, just block me.
 

That Haarper's thing is almost 2 months old. The author got death threats from Lana stans back in January when it was published. Why is Lana bringing this old ass article to light two months later? Now this poor woman is going to have her life disrupted again because Lana decided to rant and get "revenge" on her instagram.
Just when her album was released.
What a fucking idiot.
You never see stupid shit like this with Florence, Fiona, Beyonce or Marina.
Why? Why now?

I just think she’s being way too reactive. With previous album cycles she’d clap back at critics (for mostly valid reasons) but this time around it just doesn’t feel like she’s the victim. Like she did in fact say that Trump didn’t mean to incite the riots (even if it wasn’t quite what she meaned ?) but whatever, I guess this is her way of reclaiming her narrative or whatever.

it’s like she’s trying to get ahead of arguments/attacks that aren’t even happening 

I feel for Lana. She's either just being way more open with her anger and vulnerabilities (outside of her music) or she really is just feeling all these things to such a strong degree. I hope she is able to find peace and not let criticisms consume her. In the past, I always got the impression that Lana was okay with being misunderstood because she would never really address it. In the past year, that has completely flipped. I wonder what sparked this.

A friend sent me a ss of something on Reddit (?) and it was basically saying that she probably thought she'd be able to use some disparaging article about COCC, but all of the COCC reviews and articles are good, so she dredged up an old article from January. So the theory is that this was all planned, just like she seemingly planned her response to the album cover non-comments.

My problem with it is that she seems to have taken it out of context. I'm not saying that she's never received unfair criticism, but the part she underlined was not what Harper's was saying. The entire sentence is, "nobody had significantly criticised Lala for "including" people of colour in her upcoming album" and that's true. Very few people (if any) were criticising her album cover because it lacked POC; they were criticising it for being an IG-esque picture of her and her friends. Yes, there probably were some leftover comments from QftC but I didn't see anyone saying "Oh my. There are no POC on this album cover!" anywhere when she posted the album cover (if anyone else did, please quote me).
And the comment about Capital (sic) Hill was also really bizarre, because nobody was saying anything about that, either.
So basically, she took the general "she's racist/MAGA/trump supporter" comments directed at her after QftC and then acted like people were applying that to her album and its cover, when that simply wasn't the case. SHE made that association, no one else.
And before anyone's all oH bUt sHe'S dEfeNsIvE bEcAuSe It'S aLl sO uNfAir, taking article statements out of context like she did today is not the way to solve the problem.

something clearly has been going on for a year now. also she went from saying goodbye to social media to “i’m kinda happy” to “i want revenge”  in 5 days time. 
 
it’s clear she was very nervous about this album reception, and was bracing for bad news. but why drudge up 2 month old article a day after the album release? that article didn’t even mention cocc, wtf is she going on about? 
 
i hope she’s getting help for the demons she’s clearly fighting. i hope those around here realize she’s hurting. 
 
 

I get that she wants to control her narrative or whatever but calling it “revenge” is so corny. Like a few bizarre criticisms doesn’t take away the fact that many critics had very valid criticisms. She needs to just step away from the spotlight and release music. Or don’t. But this lashing out act is so weird to me.

Those friends are not friends. They’re jobless LA socialites who cling onto famous people. And they’ll never call Lana out because she’s Lana Del Rey and they’re them lmao. The reason these group of girls are Lana’s “longest-lasting/realest” friends is because they tell her what she likes to hear (I assume). 

I don't co-sign all of this, but I think it might just be complicated by her fame tbh. Idk anything about her friends really, and its not like all POC are woke etc, but you definitely have a point about like 'true' friendships and what not... at least thats been my experience as I've gotten into my twenties and re-evaluated my old friendships (for context, I am black)
Good friends DO want to educate you, especially when you are wrong. And Good Friends can be receptive to that kind of criticism. My problem with the QFTC reception as an onlooker (and one of the most likely unintended consequences of 'cancel culture') is just its efficacy on an individual level. There are people who say and do racist or sexist or problematic things that we can't forgive, and who are malicious and come from a bad place, and there are those who are ignorant - often painfully so, but believe they are coming from a good place. I think Lana is one of the latter, and even though she doubled down during the QFTC debacle about being misunderstood and made it about her, it just made me want her to realize she was wrong, rather than throw her away for being wrong about it. I knew she had friends of color (some were people even mentioned in the post) and while I don't expect all POC to be woke, educate everyone around them all the time mental labor etc., I was just kind of personally hoping she'd have this kind of backlash again but localized from people who actually know her 1 on 1, because she is very very distrusting of media reception, to an unhealthy amount for sure.
 
I don't think she fakes being woke though, I actually think she just doesn't think about that kind of thing at all in the first place and sees herself as a morally upstanding person, which then absolves her of having to think about things. It's privileged and narcissistic (ironically, the thing she says is tearing America/the world apart) but yeah, that's my take.
She's like the most millennial in the way she speaks and in her music, but also kind the worst at social media and being informed on news at the same time, its really interesting actually
 
That being said, it + her being rich and famous and surrounded by yes-men might be another reason for a friend who is a POC to like, avoid calling her out. I've had that white friend who like... definitely could be better about certain issues, but I just don't speak up to them because at the end of the day, its taxing for me and we arent *that* close anyway, like I dont think of us as best friends or friends for life or anything. Sincerely hope she has people like that in her life who can be like 'hey girl, this isn't okay and heres why' with total honesty. 
 
Anyway, I didn't really stan Lana as a person ever, mostly her music and her story and how its impacted my life personally, so this doesnt really affect me too much, but she's really pushing it. I don't need to stan her as a person, but I do kind need her to be the kind of person who isn't so awful that it makes me want to distance myself from her entirely for my own sake. I totally understand people who have already done that in this last year and who are going to do that in the future. Just hope I'm not one of them!

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a35311661/lana-del-rey-appropriation/
This is the article she was referencing. I seriously think she has some stability issues. She just released her record and now she puts this post out. I don't know it is so unfortunate to me. She has been very famous for a long time now. I am not saying it's easy but her public outbursts due to her hyper sensitivity may not end well. I feel bad. I genuinely hope she gets some help.

Because they're obviously not real friends. They're her token nonwhite friends. All my extremely close friends, and I've seen this in other multiracial friend groups, talk about race and all that shit very freely. True friendship gives an extremely comfortable amount of freedom that would be horrifyingly uncomfortable for 3rd parties unaccustomed to it who witness it. (idk how to phrase this properly) Good friends want to educate you but in a very shitposty 'i love you but you're dumb as shit' way. I can't explain it. I shitpost racial tropes with my friends all the time. Taking the piss out of life while letting your friends know backhandedly you're aware of the particular racism they face.
I think Lana is that one white friend we've all had that feigns this fake wokeness so they seem 'sensitive' and 'compassionate'  but you wouldn't trust the bitch when the revolution came. But most woke women do this, they're somehow always dating the type of person they proclaim to hate. 'I hate straight white men' but their bf is the straightest whitest man you've ever seen in your life on top of having the matching personality.
Back in 2012, did she not have any friends that were like 'Lana, you can't play dress-up with Native American clothing because you painted houses one time at a reservation.' And donating money to them doesn't change anything. White people are always paying folk to let them be racist towards them lmao. 'I'll give you thousands of dollars, let me call you the n word in my funny skit or my pretentious film.' I guess it's better than just racism huh.
(Bonus: her 'im not racist, my best friends are rappers' has the same energy as Biden's 'poor kids are just as smart as white kids' Why are they like this lol)
I love Lana's music but boy, is she unbelievably mediocre as a person. Being average is fine but she's convinced she's running with the wolves. ?

Her team or someone very close to her really needs to level with her about this, cause its not cute and It seems like there are too many people in her circle who are just like 'you did nothing wrong they're crazy, keep doing you sis!'
 
Like, her intentions aren't bad, and she knows that and people around her know that, but its totally fine to be like, I can see where I messed up etc... Kind of a basic life skill really, though one clearly thats been widdled away in her case.

I'm not a psychologist nor am I diagnosing her. Just trying to give a different perspective on her rants: Honestly, unless you're a sociopath, no one with a shred of empathy or compassion in their hearts can handle the levels of fame and notoriety that she has amassed over this past decade. On the outside it looks nice and easy to be famous, but going from living recklessly to having every single thought and action put under a microscope, she was bound to go off the rails. Clearly it's starting to negatively impact her mental health, and I hope she reaches out for help before it gets worse.

yeah it’s getting obnoxious at this point... but the stans continue to hype it up for a little girlboss moment i guess 

The fact that the specific article she chose somehow has a point... Like, it discusses in a kinda non conflict-searching way her definetly odd choices. She came out of the blue with that explanation on how her (terrible) cover art was inclusive. Nothing was known till then about the album, but the title and two songs that were truly loved. No one criticised "all about the album" before she wrote that absurd rant after posting the cover. This doesnt make sense at all. And as much as I love her, its starting to get disgusting how much she still manages to make a huge issue as racism just about herself. I get that artists build also on controversy, but there's limits. Either if she's actually as uninformed as she shows or if she is willingly setting up the chaos for whatever reasons, this is getting right now actually offensive.

Just my opinion as an old Lanaboard member at this point but this album is boring. The most Lana song is Tulsa Jesus Freak, but it’s sad that she let go of the Lana magic on other songs. Very mature and non controversial, but I don’t think I like that. 
 
TJF  (also DBJAG/Yosemite??) still makes the album worth it, but idk if I’ll be listening to the other songs as much.  Signing off 

White Dress: 9/10 
COCC: 9/10 
TJF: 10/10 
LMLYLAW: 7/10
Wild at Heart: 8.5/10 the sound crackles on the bridge r unlistenable.... jack what u doing
DBJAG: 11/10
NAWWAL: 11/10 my favorite rn
Yosemite: 8/10 i love the bridge
BUS: 0/10 no words
DTWD: 8.5/10 the bridge is too short
For Free: 0/10 who thought it was a good idea to make it a closer

Is anyone else slightly put-off by the nature of these reviews? Like yes, it’s amazing that Chemtrails is meeting such critical acclaim, but I really dislike how all these major publications feel the need to discredit her past albums in order to make the case for this one. Good journalism doesn’t need to bash something else in order to make the argument for whatever it is that is being written about. Appreciating Lana’s growth is one thing, but dismissing past albums as “confused” seems like a cop-out. 

Off topic but I'm wine drunk and listening to Ultraviolence. Her magnum opus I think. I love how bitter she is on some songs like Cruel World, West Coast, Is This Happiness ugh yes come on hell hath no fury like a woman scorned 
 
Sad Girl  In her top 20 best of all time 

I don't know if I want normal. Normal for Lana is,
 
"And another thing, it was originally going to be called Born to Dye. To call out the artifice in society. But I knew even back then that I would be misunderstood. I'M STILL MISUNDERSTOOD DAMMIT".
OK Lana calm down, have some coffee and pet your cat. We love you.

She still have him as a friend and he didn't deleted his pictures with her. I'm still waiting for them to get together when they're older and wiser