Crazy Husband Thief 3,907 Posted January 1, 2023 This was in late January 2013, so the early recording process of what would end up becoming UV and its outtakes: 25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom 21,666 Posted January 1, 2023 this period in lana’s career confuses me so much and i will never understand what songs go where what project happened before what it’s just music and vibes for me 25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted Member 23,729 Posted January 1, 2023 my prediction for a possible recording timeline Early 2013 • Money Power Glory (Greg Kurstin talked about how this song was recorded “very early on” in the album process, and the version on the album is untouched from that first day) January 2013 • Black Beauty demo April-May 2013 • Cherry Blossom • Nectar of the Gods • Living Legend • West Coast demo/radio mix June 2013 • Unidentified Flying Bill (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios) • Flipside (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios) Fall 2013 • Nowels version of Shades of Cool • Nowels version of Sad Girl • Nowels version of Brooklyn Baby • I Can Fly demo • Is This Happiness • Old Money • Fucked My Way Up to the Top demo • Ultraviolence demo • Fine China demo • Yes to Heaven demo December 2013-January 2014 • Pretty When You Cry • Guns and Roses - Cruel World written during PWYC/G&R session January-February 2014 • Cruel World final • Ultraviolence final • Shades of Cool final • Brooklyn Baby final • West Coast final • Sad Girl final (instrumental re-recorded only, vocal track is the same as the Nowels demo) • Florida Kilos • Fucked My Way Up to the Top final • The Other Woman • Black Beauty final (vocals not re-recorded, Paul Epworth production just added to the song considering vocal track is the same as demo) • I Talk to Jesus Auerbach version • Fine China Auerbach version • Money Power Glory Auerbach “demo” • Yes to Heaven Auerbach version *I am editing this as others share new information!! 24 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted Member 23,729 Posted January 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, lanaismamom said: afaik flipside was recorded in the same studio as ufb but not session, and as far as i remember we dont know when was money power glory album version recorded... but i might miss something? also always wondered when was black beauty reworked with Paul Epworth A while back I saw a picture of Lana recording in NightBird that was captioned “Lana recording Flipside and UFB in June 2013” so I just assumed that was confirmed somewhere by NightBird as well considering NightBird confirmed UFB being from June 2013. Although Eclipse did mention recently that a Flipside demo exists and is really good, so maybe it’s another Black Beauty/Sad Girl situation and the vocal track was recorded then as a different version of the song, and then reworked later as well? 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted Member 23,729 Posted January 1, 2023 It’s also worth noting that Black Beauty could’ve been re-worked in early 2014 as well. Dan said that Interscope refused to release Ultraviolence unless Lana worked with “Adele’s producer” (Greg Kurstin and Paul are the only collaborators on the album who have also worked with Adele, and we know MPG is pretty old), but when Adele’s producer got to the meeting and heard the demos of the Dan Auerbach songs, he said they were great and he wouldn’t change a thing. So possibly around that time, he was given Black Beauty to re-work anyway because he said he didn’t want to change anything about the songs Dan had done? 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Husband Thief 3,907 Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, lilac heaven said: It’s also worth noting that Black Beauty could’ve been re-worked in early 2014 as well. Dan said that Interscope refused to release Ultraviolence unless Lana worked with “Adele’s producer” (Greg Kurstin and Paul are the only collaborators on the album who have also worked with Adele, and we know MPG is pretty old), but when Adele’s producer got to the meeting and heard the demos of the Dan songs, he said they were great and he wouldn’t change a thing. So possibly around that time, he was given Black Beauty to re-work anyway because he said he didn’t want to change anything about the songs Dan had done? Black Beauty was the label's lead single choice too. They didn’t like West Coast. They ended up releasing Black Beauty pretty much independently long after Lana had given up on the album. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,552 Posted January 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Love Witch said: We also have this obscure "Trans-Am" title. That may have been a working title for the scrapped UV material. Lana had a song book lying around in the pictures she posted of her in the studio back in 2013. yeah but at the same time its just a Word.... idk why we started connecting it with song since there is no evidence in it its just a randim Word in a romb but I really wish it would be a real song... the title is just too iconic and fits aesthetics so good 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted Member 23,729 Posted January 1, 2023 I really wish recording dates were by standard listed in official song credit linear notes, I love knowing the timeline of how albums came to be Honeymoon is a complete mystery too, we don’t know anything about when the final versions for that album were recorded besides sometime from mid 2014 to mid 2015 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Grants 13,558 Posted January 1, 2023 what is a trans am 2 Quote and also for giving me Margaret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,137 Posted January 1, 2023 Black Beauty was earlier than June 2013! She first mentioned it in an interview posted here on LanaBoards on February 27, 2013. My guess is that it’s from one of those January 2013 sessions with Rick. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Husband Thief 3,907 Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, kaliuchis said: what is a trans am A type of car 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bored 7,938 Posted January 1, 2023 Honestly, I'd love for us to get an Ultraviolence: Side B. It's my favourite era or hers and every single song (no matter how sonically different) just hits. 01. Angels Forever, Forever Angels 02. Ave Maria 03. Beautiful People 04. Cherry Blossom 05. Cult Leader 06. Dark City 07. Don't Stop 08. Dragonslayer 09. Fine China 10. Hollywood 11. I Can Fly 12. I Talk To Jesus 13. If You Lie Down With Me 14. JFK 15. Let Me Love You Like A Woman 16. Living Legend 17. Nectar Of The Gods 18. Queen Of Hearts 19. Say Yes To Heaven 20. Starry Eyed 21. Summer Wine 22. Unidentified Flying Bill 23. Wait For Life 24. Your Girl 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted Member 23,729 Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said: Black Beauty was earlier than June 2013! She first mentioned it in an interview posted here on LanaBoards on February 27, 2013. My guess is that it’s from one of those January 2013 sessions with Rick. ty for this!! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,137 Posted January 1, 2023 All the songs from this era are just god-tier…it’s so interesting to think about the headspace she was in following such an unwarranted backlash that led to the creation of some of the best songs she’s ever made—a large majority of them unreleased. I remember in her Instagram Live on Blue Banisters release day, she said that making another record didn’t seem like the next step to “being pissed off” but it was “all [she] knew how to do” at the time. Ultraviolence and its cumulative recording process is not just a career-defining moment, but a life-defining one. She was and still is so incredible. 27 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bored 7,938 Posted January 1, 2023 I really wish artists would do more behind the scenes things... I'm imagining a 2hour special where Lana and the producers (of said album) sit down together and talk about the demos, songs that didn't make the cut, their individual visions for the project, draft tracklistings etc. Even play demos and show footage from back then if they have it. Hear her discuss in depth the process and how the album came to be and how she ultimately decides when an album is finished. She could even have the creative team there to discuss the visuals and mood of the era? Album artwork, styling, fonts, the videos. Like a real deep dive into the creative process... Born To Die, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon especially deserve these! 23 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrborntolose 9,989 Posted January 1, 2023 Angels Forever is such a masterpiece. it’s so sad it didn’t get a proper release. 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Stargirl Pinky 72,187 Posted January 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, mrborntolose said: Angels Forever is such a masterpiece. it’s so sad it didn’t get a proper release. That bridge is so iconic like fuck me 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lmdr 10,902 Posted January 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, lilac heaven said: my prediction for a possible recording timeline Early 2013 • Money Power Glory (Greg Kurstin talked about how this song was recorded “very early on” in the album process, and the version on the album is untouched from that first day) April-May 2013 • Cherry Blossom • Nectar of the Gods • Living Legend June 2013 • Unidentified Flying Bill (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios) • Flipside (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios) • Black Beauty demo Fall 2013 • Nowels version of Shades of Cool • Nowels version of Sad Girl • Nowels version of Brooklyn Baby • I Can Fly demo • Is This Happiness • West Coast radio mix • Old Money • Fucked My Way Up to the Top demo • Ultraviolence demo December 2013-January 2014 • Pretty When You Cry • Guns and Roses - Cruel World written during PWYC/G&R session January-February 2014 • Cruel World final • Ultraviolence final • Shades of Cool final • Brooklyn Baby final • West Coast final • Sad Girl final (instrumental re-recorded only, vocal track is the same as the Nowels demo) • Florida Kilos • Fucked My Way Up to the Top final • The Other Woman • Black Beauty final (vocals not re-recorded, Paul Epworth production just added to the song considering vocal track is the same as demo) Ultraviolence final version uses the same vocal track as the 2013 Dan Heath demo! And it seems that there is a Guns and Roses demo recorded at the same as Black Beauty based on her January 2013 lyric book! 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrborntolose 9,989 Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, The Stargirl Pinky said: That bridge is so iconic like fuck me so true so true BUT THIS FUCKING GIF IS TAKING ME OUTTT 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Stargirl Pinky 72,187 Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, mrborntolose said: so true so true BUT THIS FUCKING GIF IS TAKING ME OUTTT SDJBDDJBDDJDBF 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
