Thunder Revenant 20,943 Posted May 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, saith said: I don't understand all the Jack hate here. People saying he can only produce snoozefest haven't heard this : Plus the background singers (see also: Melting of the sun) give me Thunder and Summertime vibes. Hope he'll do something similar with Lana cause it works well for her as well. I agree that COCC and NFR have similar sound but it has to be intentional (COCC sampling NFR is an obvious hint). Jack is otherwise very versatile. Can you really the following sound the same ? : - Lana's sisters albums COCC and NFR - Lorde's Melodrama - St Vicent's Masseduction - St Vicent's Daddy's Home (from what we've heard so far) Remember Lana produced an album like Honeymoon before and Video Games whitch is her breakthrough was a piano ballad. COCC wasn't surprising at all in that regard. That being said, withJack being the producer or not, I would fancy some ultraviolencish revange album with fire. If we get a slow album and it's as good as COCC I will still love her tough. All of those have different sounds but they all rely on pretty straightforward, simple structures and production without much depth. 4 Quote Just do it. Just do it - don't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lustformoney 41,443 Posted May 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, saith said: I don't understand all the Jack hate here. People saying he can only produce snoozefest haven't heard this : Plus the background singers (see also: Melting of the sun) give me Thunder and Summertime vibes. Hope he'll do something similar with Lana cause it works well for her as well. I agree that COCC and NFR have similar sound but it has to be intentional (COCC sampling NFR is an obvious hint). Jack is otherwise very versatile. Can you really the following sound the same ? : - Lana's sisters albums COCC and NFR - Lorde's Melodrama - St Vicent's Masseduction - St Vicent's Daddy's Home (from what we've heard so far) Remember Lana produced an album like Honeymoon before and Video Games whitch is her breakthrough was a piano ballad. COCC wasn't surprising at all in that regard. That being said, withJack being the producer or not, I would fancy some ultraviolencish revange album with fire. If we get a slow album and it's as good as COCC I will still love her tough. can we finally stop pretending that most of the albums jack was working on didnt have 3+ producers that spiced up jacks flops 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluebirdXO 7,679 Posted May 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, saith said: I don't understand all the Jack hate here. People saying he can only produce snoozefest haven't heard this : Plus the background singers (see also: Melting of the sun) give me Thunder and Summertime vibes. Hope he'll do something similar with Lana cause it works well for her as well. I agree that COCC and NFR have similar sound but it has to be intentional (COCC sampling NFR is an obvious hint). Jack is otherwise very versatile. Can you really the following sound the same ? : - Lana's sisters albums COCC and NFR - Lorde's Melodrama - St Vicent's Masseduction - St Vicent's Daddy's Home (from what we've heard so far) Remember Lana produced an album like Honeymoon before and Video Games whitch is her breakthrough was a piano ballad. COCC wasn't surprising at all in that regard. That being said, withJack being the producer or not, I would fancy some ultraviolencish revange album with fire. If we get a slow album and it's as good as COCC I will still love her tough. Not my cup of tea... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanasbottom 23,694 Posted May 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, saith said: I don't understand all the Jack hate here. People saying he can only produce snoozefest haven't heard this : Plus the background singers (see also: Melting of the sun) give me Thunder and Summertime vibes. Hope he'll do something similar with Lana cause it works well for her as well. I agree that COCC and NFR have similar sound but it has to be intentional (COCC sampling NFR is an obvious hint). Jack is otherwise very versatile. Can you really the following sound the same ? : - Lana's sisters albums COCC and NFR - Lorde's Melodrama - St Vicent's Masseduction - St Vicent's Daddy's Home (from what we've heard so far) Remember Lana produced an album like Honeymoon before and Video Games whitch is her breakthrough was a piano ballad. COCC wasn't surprising at all in that regard. That being said, withJack being the producer or not, I would fancy some ultraviolencish revange album with fire. If we get a slow album and it's as good as COCC I will still love her tough. love we KNOW jack can produce some good stuff if he wants to like melodrama and masseduction but after 2 albums and numerous bonus songs i think it’s safe to say THAT WONT HAPPEN WITH LANA. like why do y’all still have so much hope for another jack x lana project to sound different or better when it’s clearly been downhill since nfr? he will never produce anything else than another stripped down snoozefest for her because that makes her music hOnEsT.... they just don’t fit together anymore and it’s high time to move on point blank period. and if you’re waiting for a ultraviolenceish revenge album from jack you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life and the DISRESPECT of comparing video games to any of those boring lifeless cocc productions.... where on earth is video games a simple piano ballad? it’s full of military drum patterns, church bells, bass, harps, violins... that song is so beautifully heavy and full production wise how could anyone compare that to the 2 poorly muffled redneck guitar strings with jack’s ugly random voice in the background of 80% of cocc’s production? 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaitForLife 5,238 Posted May 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, saith said: Lana's sisters albums COCC and NFR Who said that? Both are their own albums with no connection unlike Evermore and Folklore. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoGo 60,800 Posted May 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, TerrenceLovesHoneymoon said: Who said that? Both are their own albums with no connection unlike Evermore and Folklore. Lana said that after NFR dropped and was getting praise she said “I already feel bad for how his little sister turns out” And it’s hard to deny that NFR and COTCC share qualities. They’re definitely sisters, not twins, but sisters 4 Quote "Don’t forget me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanasbottom 23,694 Posted May 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nikogo said: Lana said that after NFR dropped and was getting praise she said “I already feel bad for how his little sister turns out” And it’s hard to deny that NFR and COTCC share qualities. They’re definitely sisters, not twins, but sisters a visionary cause I too feel very bad for the flop that chemtrails is (no i don’t) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaitForLife 5,238 Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Nikogo said: Lana said that after NFR dropped and was getting praise she said “I already feel bad for how his little sister turns out” And it’s hard to deny that NFR and COTCC share qualities. They’re definitely sisters, not twins, but sisters No wonder COTCC is so boring Lana must hate us so much 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted May 12, 2021 Ben & Ed busy promoting Ellie Goulding?(how is she still relevant???) And Dula Peep (ok they want to milk FN) meanwhile never adding LDR to any playlist on spotify nothing. I guess first borns are always forgotten Tbvh Ben hasnt so wildly promoted LDR when she won all those awards.. Correct me if I'm mistaken. .. He might have posted 1 story or 2.. But now a train of posts for Dua for the past 1 year o.O 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
past the bushes 30,938 Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, CinnamonGay said: Ben & Ed busy promoting Ellie Goulding?(how is she still relevant???) And Dula Peep (ok they want to milk FN) meanwhile never adding LDR to any playlist on spotify nothing. I guess first borns are always forgotten Tbvh Ben hasnt so wildly promoted LDR when she won all those awards.. Correct me if I'm mistaken. .. He might have posted 1 story or 2.. But now a train of posts for Dua for the past 1 year o.O The thing is Lana is probably comfortable with that lack of promo, she found her market and people are going to buy and stream anyways. If she didn't like Ben & Ed's management she would have addressed it by now. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, past the bushes said: The thing is Lana is probably comfortable with that lack of promo, she found her market and people are going to buy and stream anyways. If she didn't like Ben & Ed's management she would have addressed it by now. Yes but we arent asking 1000 radio interviews or TV appearances. Or extravagant promo. Just spotify playlists. Searching the sad playlists u can find many Lorde/Billie/melanie/halsey... Where is LDR? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted May 12, 2021 I think it's safe to say that COCC would have done better streamwise ( yes ik Lana is comfortable with min promo and still sells alot) if they had promoted it more. I think they do want more money from streams. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COCC 29,554 Posted May 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, CinnamonGay said: I think it's safe to say that COCC would have done better streamwise ( yes ik Lana is comfortable with min promo and still sells alot) if they had promoted it more. I think they do want more money from streams. It has sold tons of Vinyls though, I‘m pretty sure they are happy with COCC‘s numbers. And she also got quite some promo: Jimmy Fallon, billboards in NY and London, those airplanes in LA, BBC One interview. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice Jesus Whore 4,471 Posted May 12, 2021 Change = Bartender = Yosemite These all feel like equivalent songs on their respective albums, no? 4 Quote It’s not about having someone to love me anymore This is the experience of being an American whore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanilla Icy 29,602 Posted May 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, CinnamonGay said: Ben & Ed busy promoting Ellie Goulding?(how is she still relevant???) And Dula Peep (ok they want to milk FN) meanwhile never adding LDR to any playlist on spotify nothing. I guess first borns are always forgotten Tbvh Ben hasnt so wildly promoted LDR when she won all those awards.. Correct me if I'm mistaken. .. He might have posted 1 story or 2.. But now a train of posts for Dua for the past 1 year o.O you ever think maybe lana doesn’t care about being promoted? 13 Quote i love you, but you don't understand me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prettywhenimhigh 49,329 Posted May 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Urbanney said: Change = Bartender = Yosemite These all feel like equivalent songs on their respective albums, no? yes!!!!! I already thought about the connection between bartender and yosemite before but I guess change has that connection too 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluebirdXO 7,679 Posted May 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, CinnamonGay said: I think it's safe to say that COCC would have done better streamwise ( yes ik Lana is comfortable with min promo and still sells alot) if they had promoted it more. I think they do want more money from streams. They probably wanted to keep it low due to last year's controversy. Her following records will probably be more promoted 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, new gods said: you ever think maybe lana doesn’t care about being promoted? She doesnt. But as a manager I'd be proud of my client and promote if they receive accolades..or just to see them do better. You can also perceive it as they know she is gonna sell alot of physical sales anyway so they dont care much about the streams. They really appreciated her in the interview though...I forgot which one? Rolling Stone? We need more of that energy for BB 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, BluebirdXO said: They probably wanted to keep it low due to last year's controversy. Her following records will probably be more promoted Yes pls. NFR level promo. Or LFL. Every morning she went to a radio station and killed it ???? She has given alot of content this year tho. Cocc. Violet. YNWA . Summertime. And Hallucinogenics.. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites