never2heaven 6,670 Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, bluechemtrails said: as if she were the first artist ever to be late for their performance literally i don’t think i’ve ever been to a concert where they’re on time people were so dramatic about it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 38,432 Posted December 26, 2023 Wrong thread, sorry Spoiler 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lanaparadiserey 23,126 Posted December 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, GaboSpaceCowboy said: Of course, I hope Drew Erickson is not involved in LDR10. Well yes. I’m convinced people hate Jack mainly because of Blue Banisters…which he didn’t produce. Chemtrails was kinda flop era for them but they still made Tulsa and Chemtrails title track. Norman and Ocean are both masterpieces so Jack deserves a little more credit 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeymooooon 2,305 Posted December 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said: Well yes. I’m convinced people hate Jack mainly because of Blue Banisters…which he didn’t produce. Chemtrails was kinda flop era for them but they still made Tulsa and Chemtrails title track. Norman and Ocean are both masterpieces so Jack deserves a little more credit like im sorry but all the songs jack and lana make are always hits, and even the songs jack didnt produce on ocean were hits too so i wouldnt mine if she worked if some of the people she worked with on tunnel 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,571 Posted December 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said: Well yes. I’m convinced people hate Jack mainly because of Blue Banisters…which he didn’t produce. Chemtrails was kinda flop era for them but they still made Tulsa and Chemtrails title track. Norman and Ocean are both masterpieces so Jack deserves a little more credit I dislike him as a producer for Lana because of the nfr/chemtrails production, his work on OB was much better though I like the production on blue banisters too (which i know he didn't really do but i think it gets a lot of unnecessary hate) 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rust Dress 40,054 Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Terrence Loves Me said: I dislike him as a producer for Lana because of the nfr/chemtrails production chemtrails okay.. BUT NFR..? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,418 Posted December 27, 2023 Drew is very hit or miss... more miss than hit, tho HOWEVER, the person that should indeed be fired is whoever mixes her vocals... They're way too muffled, and way louder than they should be... (like Arcadia for example) Besides, if you listen to the instrumentals, you can find so many interesting moments if you pay attention, but the way the final songs are mixed is so... I know most of y'all don't care about stems, but I personally get upset when a song has many layers and you cannot notice them because of the poorly job the person who mixes and masters the songs do 11 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,571 Posted December 27, 2023 Just now, Rust Dress said: chemtrails okay.. BUT NFR..? The way this debate always creeps up 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,418 Posted December 27, 2023 Also, In terms of production/songwriting style in general... If you haven't enjoyed the last four albums, I doubt Lana is the right artist for you anymore Like, I'm sorry but she also has a say when it comes to her music and it's not always the producer's fault the final product ends up the way it does. So, unless she decides to make a huge switch of style, maybe taking a break from her music might help you 9 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thats why they call me Dita 9,514 Posted December 27, 2023 Honestly I’m unsure why Jack gets so much hate, I think NFR is still her best album and to be honest chemtrails always ends up being one of my top listened to albums, I just love the cohesion of both those records too, I love listening to them from start to finish I love ocean blvd too, but there are some songs which I just haven’t learned to love like her other songs, which is sweet and the grants mainly, they’re nice but I think just a little boring 0 Quote like a dream, you glide on the water and like a star, I shine from the shore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrashMagiq 58,127 Posted December 27, 2023 Drew Erickson did his thing on Let The Light In but other than that his production has always been a chop for me 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 199,917 Posted December 27, 2023 i wish people would stop blaming the producers entirely for the sound they don't like when ultimately lana's the one who decides how the music sounds, nobody's forcing her to work with any particular producer or to make her music sound a certain way, she worked with mike dean of all people and still made a piano ballad 6 Quote ══════════════════ -ˋˏ ༻❁༺ ˎˊ- ══════════════════ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thats why they call me Dita 9,514 Posted December 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, TrashMagiq said: Drew Erickson did his thing on Let The Light In but other than that his production has always been a chop for me I haven’t always been that invested in who produced which songs, but looking back at ocean blvd and blue banisters it becomes clear that it is the songs produced by Erickson which tend to be my least favourite.. with exception of let the light in, like you said 1 Quote like a dream, you glide on the water and like a star, I shine from the shore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrashMagiq 58,127 Posted December 27, 2023 So far the only Jack produced Lana song I dislike is Kintsugi, and that's mainly because Lana sounds muffled as hell on it. Other than that he has always delivered, even when Lana was forcing him to remove instrumentals for a stripped back sound with Chemtrails. I'm here for another Jack album 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiLanaFan 48,591 Posted December 27, 2023 I really like Drew 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 32,455 Posted December 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, TrashMagiq said: So far the only Jack produced Lana song I dislike is Kintsugi, and that's mainly because Lana sounds muffled as hell on it. Other than that he has always delivered, even when Lana was forcing him to remove instrumentals for a stripped back sound with Chemtrails. I'm here for another Jack album agree! that's the only song he's produced on that sounds unpolished to me. 0 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 14,644 Posted December 27, 2023 ive been saying this from the beginning, but we all need to blame laura sisk ocean blvd is so poorly mastered, ESPECIALLY kintsugi which could've been an even more beautiful song than it already is this is the face of a villain 5 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene 26,646 Posted December 27, 2023 Some here love those laptop demos but hate Kintsugi. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoGo 60,333 Posted December 27, 2023 I’m not a huge fan of Drew, and I say I’m not a fan of Jack, but some of my all time favorite Lana songs are Jack songs so. I do think tunnel is as good as it is because there were multiple producers working together. I don’t think Drew is a good producer by himself at all, but when he works with Zach or Jack he really shines. 3 Quote "Don’t forget me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,418 Posted December 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ivory almond said: ive been saying this from the beginning, but we all need to blame laura sisk ocean blvd is so poorly mastered, ESPECIALLY kintsugi which could've been an even more beautiful song than it already is this is the face of a villain So true, that's why you're my favorite member here 4 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites