Israel-Palestine conflict (Israel-Hamas war)

[Ultra Violet 18,425]

Short interlude here. Double standards against Arabs are just crazy. Jews have experienced shit that imo justifies feeling like people want them extinct. They're allowed to talk about it. So why can't someone like @14n4 talk about feeling targeted by Israel without being called clueless, when look what's actually happening to Arabs in the neighbouring countries!! How they feel is also justified.

[Ultra Violet 18,425]

A real estate company proposing beachfront houses to be built over the rubble of Gaza

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0ygttBoH6X/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

 

Not surprisingly this same company has built plenty of houses for illegal settlers in the West Bank.

Remind me again how this isn't colonisation and ethnic cleansing?

[Mer 52,055]

4 hours ago, Ultra Violet said:

Short interlude here. Double standards against Arabs are just crazy. Jews have experienced shit that imo justifies feeling like people want them extinct. They're allowed to talk about it. So why can't someone like @14n4 talk about feeling targeted by Israel without being called clueless, when look what's actually happening to Arabs in the neighbouring countries!! How they feel is also justified.

 

Yes you're absolutely correct, in my statement I did not at all mean to minimize the rampant Islamophobia Arab people face. And I acknowledge that having a war happening near your home country is terrifying. My only point was such a dramatic escalation into Lebanon and Jordan would be highly unlikely, not that the fears and horrors faced by people in Gaza (and other parts of the Arab world) at the moment are not valid and at the hands of a settler-colony. 

[Ultra Violet 18,425]

45 minutes ago, Mer said:

 

Yes you're absolutely correct, in my statement I did not at all mean to minimize the rampant Islamophobia Arab people face. And I acknowledge that having a war happening near your home country is terrifying. My only point was such a dramatic escalation into Lebanon and Jordan would be highly unlikely, not that the fears and horrors faced by people in Gaza (and other parts of the Arab world) at the moment are not valid and at the hands of a settler-colony. 

I read your reply as helpful, rather than belitting!  But I appreciate the clarification anyway.

[14n4 307]

10 hours ago, Ultra Violet said:

Short interlude here. Double standards against Arabs are just crazy. Jews have experienced shit that imo justifies feeling like people want them extinct. They're allowed to talk about it. So why can't someone like @14n4 talk about feeling targeted by Israel without being called clueless, when look what's actually happening to Arabs in the neighbouring countries!! How they feel is also justified.

thank you !!!!!!! you get it . 

[barttttender 3,064]

On 12/20/2023 at 8:14 AM, Ultra Violet said:

A real estate company proposing beachfront houses to be built over the rubble of Gaza

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0ygttBoH6X/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

 

Not surprisingly this same company has built plenty of houses for illegal settlers in the West Bank.

Remind me again how this isn't colonisation and ethnic cleansing?

 

 

I mean, hardly a surprise. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from day one. I'm surprised they haven't started building yet.

[rosemead ramada 5,602]

20 hours ago, barttttender said:

I mean, hardly a surprise. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from day one. I'm surprised they haven't started building yet.

It's pretty obvious to everyone they want to empty out the Gaza Strip to take it for themselves. As if they haven't already taken enough land, no, they need more.

At this point I'm going to guess they wrongly assumed other countries, particularly Egypt, were going to welcome two million refugees with open arms, and when it became clear that wasn't going to happen, they decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza anyway. This isn't about "retaliation" for the Oct 7 Hamas attacks, Israel has viewed Gaza as a problem for a long time

Had Egypt taken in the people of Gaza as refugees, Israel would never, ever, ever let them back in. They would have been permanently displaced to Egypt.

How many times do Israelis need to show the world who they are? These are not isolated opinions and views. They are the Israeli norm.

[barttttender 3,064]

10 hours ago, rosemead ramada said:

It's pretty obvious to everyone they want to empty out the Gaza Strip to take it for themselves. As if they haven't already taken enough land, no, they need more.

At this point I'm going to guess they wrongly assumed other countries, particularly Egypt, were going to welcome two million refugees with open arms, and when it became clear that wasn't going to happen, they decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza anyway. This isn't about "retaliation" for the Oct 7 Hamas attacks, Israel has viewed Gaza as a problem for a long time

Had Egypt taken in the people of Gaza as refugees, Israel would never, ever, ever let them back in. They would have been permanently displaced to Egypt.

How many times do Israelis need to show the world who they are? These are not isolated opinions and views. They are the Israeli norm.

 

100%. the issue is, at this point, that everyone knows, yet nobody cares. Not even the muslim community. They're all in places like abu dhabi eating Big Macs and McDonalds in fast food joints adjacent to the Grand Mosque not even realizing that they've been enslaved by America and their allies

[Honeytrails 1,414]

12 minutes ago, barttttender said:

 

100%. the issue is, at this point, that everyone knows, yet nobody cares. Not even the muslim community. They're all in places like abu dhabi eating Big Macs and McDonalds in fast food joints adjacent to the Grand Mosque not even realizing that they've been enslaved by America and their allies

Not a Muslim issue, but a Arab/Palestinian issue that frankly westerners or those not having ties to the middle barely have any historical context of. The boycott of fast food chains isn't going to end an issue that has been happening since the 40s. And it's so easy to look at people just living, especially in the middle east, and blame them for such stupid things

[The Sun Also Rises 2,662]

11 hours ago, rosemead ramada said:

How many times do Israelis need to show the world who they are? These are not isolated opinions and views. They are the Israeli norm.

 

Someone I know has the hots for one of these disgusting IDF propaganda-machine thirst traps and it was the biggest ICK I've ever experienced. I cut him out of my life so fast. 

He also said he wants to move to Israel and marry an Israeli woman. 

Bear in mind this is an educated guy earning 6 figures (£) in his early twenties. And not a white person either. 

Apparently there are millions (?) of people who get turned on by the idea of these women killing innocent civilians. I know there are plenty of people who have disturbing ideologues (with serious real life consequences), but finding sexual pleasure from it/commercialising it sexually is just on a whole other level. 

[bluechemtrails 22,936]

the Arabic Wikipedia is blocked for editing for 24 hours in protest

https://en.royanews.tv/news/47768/2023-12-23

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[barttttender 3,064]

2 hours ago, Honeytrails said:

Not a Muslim issue, but a Arab/Palestinian issue that frankly westerners or those not having ties to the middle barely have any historical context of. The boycott of fast food chains isn't going to end an issue that has been happening since the 40s. And it's so easy to look at people just living, especially in the middle east, and blame them for such stupid things

 

wasn't implying that there should be a boycott of those brands - just the irony of it.

 

and yes, it's arab/palestinian, you're right about that. But also, shouldn't the muslim people be more inclined to help out fellow muslim people?

 

seems like they've all turned a blind eye. Because what's the alternative? Third world war with arabs against america?

 

the main issue is the Us, and it's blatant unwavering support of the ethnic cleansing. American people need to wake up. But then, most would rather sit and reap the financial rewards

[Honeytrails 1,414]

1 hour ago, barttttender said:

 

wasn't implying that there should be a boycott of those brands - just the irony of it.

 

and yes, it's arab/palestinian, you're right about that. But also, shouldn't the muslim people be more inclined to help out fellow muslim people?

 

seems like they've all turned a blind eye. Because what's the alternative? Third world war with arabs against america?

 

the main issue is the Us, and it's blatant unwavering support of the ethnic cleansing. American people need to wake up. But then, most would rather sit and reap the financial rewards

Arabs have always stood with Palestinians, Muslims or Christians - But yes, this recent media coverage should be targeted towards americans, and they should all realize, although extremely late, about where their hard earned tax money is being spent

[Veinsineon 70,536]

4 hours ago, Honeytrails said:

The boycott of fast food chains isn't going to end an issue that has been happening since the 40s.

No one is saying Boycott =/= ceasefire. Just that companies which profit off of death and destruction should not be able to.

[Honeytrails 1,414]

6 minutes ago, Veinsineon said:

No one is saying Boycott =/= ceasefire. Just that companies which profit off of death and destruction should not be able to.

Not my point... criticizing "muslim countries"  for "eating McDonalds", which in middle eastern countries are not the same McDonalds who are sending in money to Isreal, as if they are somehow part of the issue is the problem 

[Mer 52,055]

Whether you believe in a boycott or not (and I’m not saying I do or don’t), the least it does is bring to light how deeply entwined our everyday purchases are with the military-industrial-complex and the death and destruction of people abroad. 

[baddisease 15,880]

15 hours ago, rosemead ramada said:

It's pretty obvious to everyone they want to empty out the Gaza Strip to take it for themselves. As if they haven't already taken enough land, no, they need more.

At this point I'm going to guess they wrongly assumed other countries, particularly Egypt, were going to welcome two million refugees with open arms, and when it became clear that wasn't going to happen, they decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza anyway. This isn't about "retaliation" for the Oct 7 Hamas attacks, Israel has viewed Gaza as a problem for a long time

Had Egypt taken in the people of Gaza as refugees, Israel would never, ever, ever let them back in. They would have been permanently displaced to Egypt.

How many times do Israelis need to show the world who they are? These are not isolated opinions and views. They are the Israeli norm.

 

evil mf.

[Honeytrails 1,414]

1 minute ago, Mer said:

Whether you believe in a boycott or not (and I’m not saying I do or don’t), the least it does is bring to light how deeply entwined our everyday purchases are with the military-industrial-complex and the death and destruction of people abroad. 

For Americans, exactly! like I said, this recent media coverage has given so much Americans awareness of where their tax money is being sent. My people have been at the receiving end of all of this for forever

[Mer 52,055]

2 minutes ago, Honeytrails said:

which in middle eastern countries are not the same McDonalds who are sending in money to Isreal,

This is a great point. McDonald’s Oman, for example, is 100% Omani owned and stands with Gaza. We need to be nuanced in any “boycott.”

[Honeytrails 1,414]

1 minute ago, Mer said:

This is a great point. McDonald’s Oman, for example, is 100% Omani owned and stands with Gaza. We need to be nuanced in any “boycott.”

That falls for most countries around the world I believe. In the specific middle eastern country I'm in, most American Brands are licensed to a certain company and are usually all next to each other in one plaza cause they have the same owner - no matter how different the owners are in the States