iseeyouupsidedown 931 Posted September 28, 2014 It's one thing to think she's sexy, but the graphic detail is starting to get a little creepy and sexist... She's not an object she's a talented woman and I'm pretty sure most people go to her shows because of her music... If they just wanted to see tits and ass and hear music, they would go to a strip club. Anyway, it somehow just hit me that what if Money is actually a cover of the song by The Flying Lizards! I would love that actually! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 Newsflash: they don't this is also singlehandedly the most creepy post in all 335 pages of the thread You're wrong. I personally know a few straight guys who have been to one of her shows. If anything is creepy, it's how obsessive most of you are hunting down people for unreleased music and not caring about leaking songs she doesn't want leaked, spending so much time creating fan-made album covers, drawing pictures of her, spending hours searching the web for her vinyls, obsessively typing out lyrics for old ass songs, sending her gifts and letters, posting a master list of her songs over and over again, regularly checking for songs that she's registered, going out of your way to try to meet her, and obsessing over how your iTunes library looks and is organized. Charli doesn't have to worry about me hunting her down, and I haven't sent her shit. If recognizing that she has big ass nipples when she isn't wearing a bra (or is wearing a see-through bra) makes me creepy, then so be it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cartoon eyes 2,549 Posted September 28, 2014 I don't think she'll put Money on the album, considering it is a cover. (Unless she wants a cover on there) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
comeintomybedroom 8,657 Posted September 28, 2014 You're wrong. I personally know a few straight guys who have been to one of her shows. If anything is creepy, it's how obsessive most of you are hunting down people for unreleased music and not caring about leaking songs she doesn't want leaked, spending so much time creating fan-made album covers, drawing pictures of her, spending hours searching the web for her vinyls, obsessively typing out lyrics for old ass songs, sending her gifts and letters, posting a master list of her songs over and over again, regularly checking for songs that she's registered, going out of your way to try to meet her, and obsessing over how your iTunes playlist looks. Charli doesn't have to worry about me hunting her down, and I haven't sent her shit. If recognizing that she has big ass nipples when she isn't wearing a bra (or is wearing a see-through bra) makes me creepy, then so be it. I actually pointed out her areolas like a year ago in a magazine shoot she did in like 2011. You just made it seem like "fuck this bitches shit music, i just want her on her knees, that's all she's good for". And your definition of creep was so fucking stupid, it's called being a fan. I'm sorry that most of us are 20 and don't have major responsibilities unlike yourself, who seems like he's 34 and supports a family of 6. Yet somehow you have time to mock people on an internet forum made specifically for an artist. What do you expect? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrift 4,813 Posted September 28, 2014 I don't think she'll put Money on the album, considering it is a cover. (Unless she wants a cover on there) Thus freeing up space for Body of My Own and Not In Love or I'm Not Sorry or MESS 2 Quote X----into me, into you----X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iseeyouupsidedown 931 Posted September 28, 2014 I don't think she'll put Money on the album, considering it is a cover. (Unless she wants a cover on there) Oh no I don't think she will put it on the album, but it's exciting if it is a cover she's doing live. There still isn't live footage of it, is there? At first I assumed she had her own song called Money but then I realized she put Money by the Flying Lizards on a playlist before and has talked about them as one of the influences for her new record. and @@782anonymous All I have to say is that that's a really backwards view. She has some crazy fans. Some of those 14 year old girls are RUTHLESS. But most of us here are pretty mature I hope, and the fan art I do is because I'm an ARTIST. I do a LOT of art. And I happen to think she's gorgeous and fun to draw. She never really seems to have an issue with it considering she's posted it and said thank you before... I've never seen her post a creepy sexist comment about her tits with a thank you note before. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 I actually pointed out her areolas like a year ago in a magazine shoot she did in like 2011. You just made it seem like "fuck this bitches shit music, i just want her on her knees, that's all she's good for". And your definition of creep was so fucking stupid, it's called being a fan. I'm sorry that most of us are 20 and don't have major responsibilities unlike yourself, who seems like he's 34 and supports a family of 6. Yet somehow you have time to mock people on an internet forum made specifically for an artist. What do you expect? I have never known anyone in real life who does most of the things I've seen in this thread. It's an eye-opener. When I was in middle school, I knew tween girls who would post N'SYNC pictures all over their walls and probably faint if they got backstage passes, but that's it. I might be older than all of you, but I'm still in my 20s. I have no children and am not married. Most of my posts are not about Charli's looks. Most of my posts are either about her music or responses to one of your personal attacks. In your world, every Charli XCX fan is gay, but this is not reality. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 Oh no I don't think she will put it on the album, but it's exciting if it is a cover she's doing live. There still isn't live footage of it, is there? At first I assumed she had her own song called Money but then I realized she put Money by the Flying Lizards on a playlist before and has talked about them as one of the influences for her new record. and @@782anonymous All I have to say is that that's a really backwards view. She has some crazy fans. Some of those 14 year old girls are RUTHLESS. But most of us here are pretty mature I hope, and the fan art I do is because I'm an ARTIST. I do a LOT of art. And I happen to think she's gorgeous and fun to draw. She never really seems to have an issue with it considering she's posted it and said thank you before... I've never seen her post a creepy sexist comment about her tits with a thank you note before. Who would send her a letter about her tits? That WOULD be creepy. Normal guys don't write women letters about their breasts; they look at them and make passing comments. 10% of the first comments on the BTR video are about her rack and butt. That's just the way it is. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iseeyouupsidedown 931 Posted September 28, 2014 I have never known anyone in real life who does most of the things I've seen in this thread. It's an eye-opener. When I was in middle school, I knew tween girls who would post N'SYNC pictures all over their walls and probably faint if they got backstage passes, but that's it. I might be older than all of you, but I'm still in my 20s. I have no children and am not married. Most of my posts are not about Charli's looks. Most of my posts are either about her music or responses to one of your personal attacks. In your world, every Charli XCX fan is gay, but this is not reality. This is just from observation, and I'm not saying it's good thing, but honestly what it means to be a "super fan" has changed from the times you were growing up (and from when I was in middle school too tbh). Nowadays with twitter and Instagram and tumblr, and just the internet in general, a lot of the crazy fan stuff that's possible today wasn't possible back then. And I do think a lot of it is over the top. Tbh I'm not one of those though. I have a few Charli posters on my wall, and I might've went through a phase where it was a bit over the top (especially with Marina and the Diamonds... I cringe looking back) but I don't harass people for unreleased songs, and I don't try to find out her address or sneak backstage... I want to meet her, but only if she comes out to the merch table and is interested in meeting me. And like I said I'm an ACTUAl artist. I play guitar. I do graphic design. I draw. So I have done covers of her songs (never would record or post them lol), I have made illustrations/drawings of her... But nothing over the top or creepy. I do it first as an artist and second as a fan. edit: @@782anonymous I never said you would write that in a letter... But you write it online. I never sent her a drawing or letter in the mail, I once posted a drawing on tumblr. That's how she found it... She could easily find everything you write about her too. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitar 22,214 Posted September 28, 2014 You're wrong. I personally know a few straight guys who have been to one of her shows. If anything is creepy, it's how obsessive most of you are hunting down people for unreleased music and not caring about leaking songs she doesn't want leaked, spending so much time creating fan-made album covers, drawing pictures of her, spending hours searching the web for her vinyls, obsessively typing out lyrics for old ass songs, sending her gifts and letters, posting a master list of her songs over and over again, regularly checking for songs that she's registered, going out of your way to try to meet her, and obsessing over how your iTunes library looks and is organized. Charli doesn't have to worry about me hunting her down, and I haven't sent her shit. If recognizing that she has big ass nipples when she isn't wearing a bra (or is wearing a see-through bra) makes me creepy, then so be it. BYE I sincerely doubt she'd have a better reaction to you objectifying her (which she is so outspokenly against like tf!) than our obsessive appreciation of her craft. Dedicated ass reading our whole thread and keeping a catalog of our behavior to try to throw back at us though who's creepy? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 This is just from observation, and I'm not saying it's good thing, but honestly what it means to be a "super fan" has changed from the times you were growing up (and from when I was in middle school too tbh). Nowadays with twitter and Instagram and tumblr, and just the internet in general, a lot of the crazy fan stuff that's possible today wasn't possible back then. And I do think a lot of it is over the top. Tbh I'm not one of those though. I have a few Charli posters on my way, and I might've went through a phase where it was a bit over the top (especially with Marina and the Diamonds... I cringe looking back) but I don't harass people for unreleased songs, and I don't try to find out her address or sneak backstage... I want to meet her, but only if she comes out to the merch table and is interested in meeting me. And like I said I'm an ACTUAl artist. I play guitar. I do graphic design. I draw. So I have done covers of her songs (never would record or post them lol), I have made illustrations/drawings of her... But nothing over the top or creepy. I do it first as an artist and second as a fan. edit: @@782anonymous I never said you would write that in a letter... But you write it online. I never sent her a drawing or letter in the mail, I once posted a drawing on tumblr. That's how she found it... She could easily find everything you write about her too. It's cool that you're an artist. I've remixed songs in the past. It's when people spend several hours a week doing a combination of obsessive things for a celebrity or anyone is when it gets creepy. I'm assuming that most of you are Americans. This is a general statement, but most Americans are bizarre in that they will tolerate large amounts of violence and substance abuse, but turn into Puritans when it comes to something as natural as sex and the human body. If it weren't for sexual attraction, none of us would be here. I'm not going to apologize for being an open person when it comes to verbally expressing what everyone thinks, but I will tone down the sexual rhetoric since it makes the virgin ears so uncomfortable. Note to self: Singing about skipping school, getting high, and getting drunk = fun. Talking about sex and body parts = sexist. BYE I sincerely doubt she'd have a better reaction to you objectifying her (which she is so outspokenly against like tf!) than our obsessive appreciation of her craft. Dedicated ass reading our whole thread and keeping a catalog of our behavior to try to throw back at us though who's creepy? As if Charli never got angry over fans leaking her songs... I read this whole thread before I joined to get more background information on Charli. You just insulted every new member who decided to research this whole thread. I don't like to ask for stuff that's already been discussed, so I do my research. Taking screenshots of what I post on other websites is beyond creepy, but I'm over it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
comeintomybedroom 8,657 Posted September 28, 2014 I read this whole thread before I joined to get more background information on Charli. You just insulted every new member who decided to research this whole thread. I don't like to ask for stuff that's already been discussed, so I do my research. The fact that YOU were so specific to what we have done in the past and threw it in our face is what he meant by "creep". 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iseeyouupsidedown 931 Posted September 28, 2014 It's cool that you're an artist. I've remixed songs in the past. It's when people spend several hours a week doing a combination of obsessive things for a celebrity or anyone is when it gets creepy. I'm assuming that most of you are Americans. This is a general statement, but most Americans are bizarre in that they will tolerate large amounts of violence and substance abuse, but turn into Puritans when it comes to something as natural as sex and the human body. If it weren't for sexual attraction, none of us would be here. I'm not going to apologize for being an open person when it comes to verbally expressing what everyone thinks, but I will tone down the sexual rhetoric since it makes the virgin ears so uncomfortable. Note to self: Singing about skipping school, getting high, and getting drunk = fun. Talking about sex and body parts = sexist. As if Charli never got angry over fans leaking her songs... I read this whole thread before I joined to get more background information on Charli. You just insulted every new member who decided to research this whole thread. I don't like to ask for stuff that's already been discussed, so I do my research. The fact that you took the time to read this whole thread when you joined shows that you care about more than her tits and ass but yet you say that's the reason you want to see her live... I don't get it. I didn't even read this whole thread when I joined tbh and I was here a long time before you so it was a lot less reading. That's a lot of hours you've spent on Charli so it's a little hypocritical to call out other fans. As for the sex thing, I think you are looking at it the wrong way. I am American but I am very sexually liberal. I am also a feminist... There is a difference between finding someone attractive and objectifying them. Talking about looking up a girl's skirt to see her panties is over the top and rude. That's an invasion of Charli's privacy. Like those people who fingered Iggy so she had to start wearing multiple layers of underwear. It's gross and not appreciated by female artists. Songs about sex can be amazing, but vouyerism and obsessing over a fully clothed woman's body is just a bit much. Sexism and objectification are real things, and for now unfortunately, because almost every society started as a patriarchy and favors males, a straight male talking about Charli the way you do can be considered extremely sexist. She's not inviting those kinds of comments. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,805 Posted September 28, 2014 If anything is creepy, it's how obsessive most of you are hunting down people for unreleased music and not caring about leaking songs she doesn't want leaked, spending so much time creating fan-made album covers, drawing pictures of her, spending hours searching the web for her vinyls, obsessively typing out lyrics for old ass songs, sending her gifts and letters, posting a master list of her songs over and over again, regularly checking for songs that she's registered, going out of your way to try to meet her, and obsessing over how your iTunes library looks and is organized. Charli doesn't have to worry about me hunting her down, and I haven't sent her shit. If recognizing that she has big ass nipples when she isn't wearing a bra (or is wearing a see-through bra) makes me creepy, then so be it. Extremely rude and ridiculous points. I just lost alllll respect for you. It's creepy that many of us are completionists or like to be really organized? It's creepy that we want to meet someone who we admire so much on an artistic level? It's creepy that we want to collect records or posters or rare promo CDs of an artist who makes music that is so important to us? Yet it's not creepy for you to comment on her tits or ass almost EVERY time someone posts a new picture or video of her? Drink shit. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 The fact that YOU were so specific to what we have done in the past and threw it in our face is what he meant by "creep". I have a good memory. I didn't read this thread to collect information on the posters; I just remember it. Every time you personally attack me, be prepared to have the mirror thrown in your face. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only is obtaining someone's intellectual property through unofficial channels unethical, it's also illegal. Did Charli receive any money when any of you purchased (or obtained for free) her stuff through unofficial channels? I don't care how much you paid for it; you stole from her. The fact that you took the time to read this whole thread when you joined shows that you care about more than her tits and ass but yet you say that's the reason you want to see her live... I don't get it. I didn't even read this whole thread when I joined tbh and I was here a long time before you so it was a lot less reading. That's a lot of hours you've spent on Charli so it's a little hypocritical to call out other fans. That's not what I said; that's what you read. I wouldn't pay to go to one of Charli's shows just to see her panties. I can watch porn at home for free. As for the sex thing, I think you are looking at it the wrong way. I am American but I am very sexually liberal. I am also a feminist... There is a difference between finding someone attractive and objectifying them. Talking about looking up a girl's skirt to see her panties is over the top and rude. That's an invasion of Charli's privacy. Like those people who fingered Iggy so she had to start wearing multiple layers of underwear. It's gross and not appreciated by female artists. How did I invade Charli's privacy? I've never seen her in person and didn't hack into anyone's stuff. Legally, a person does not have an expectation of privacy when they show their underwear and body parts in public. They're out there for everyone to see. Do you expect everyone to close their eyes? Songs about sex can be amazing, but vouyerism and obsessing over a fully clothed woman's body is just a bit much. Sexism and objectification are real things, and for now unfortunately, because almost every society started as a patriarchy and favors males, a straight male talking about Charli the way you do can be considered extremely sexist. She's not inviting those kinds of comments. Voyeurism is getting sexual satisfaction from fantasizing about or actually spying on someone engaged in a private, sexual act. Seeing Charli flash her underwear in public is not voyeurism. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
782anonymous 220 Posted September 28, 2014 Extremely rude and ridiculous points. I just lost alllll respect for you. It's creepy that many of us are completionists or like to be really organized? It's creepy that we want to meet someone who we admire so much on an artistic level? It's creepy that we want to collect records or posters or rare promo CDs of an artist who makes music that is so important to us? Yet it's not creepy for you to comment on her tits or ass almost EVERY time someone posts a new picture or video of her? Drink shit. If you're going to set the bar for creepiness that low, then yes, all of that stuff is creepy too. I didn't attack anyone about their obsessive behavior until they started attacking me. I don't make sexual comments about half of the videos and pictures posted. Saying "almost every time" is a gross exaggeration. If you truly thought I was being creepy, then you would have lost respect for me a long time ago. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,805 Posted September 29, 2014 If you're going to set the bar for creepiness that low, then yes, all of that stuff is creepy too. I didn't attack anyone about their obsessive behavior until they started attacking me. I don't make sexual comments about half of the videos and pictures posted. Saying "almost every time" is a gross exaggeration. Well I'll stop exaggerating when you do. Regardless of whether or not you comment on her tits every picture, it happens often enough for everyone to have noticed and brought it up multiple times. You're the one grossly exaggerating over how "creepy" it is for us to be organized completionists who like to make art for someone we'd go out of our way to meet. & if it was only in response to you being personally attacked, then maybe you should've responded to JUST the people attacking you, instead of generalizing and, in-turn, insulting basically everyone here who has ever done anything that falls under your idiotic definition of "creepy." That's what pisses me off. Argue with whoever all you want but don't turn around and insult everyone because you're feeling cornered. Pitiful. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iseeyouupsidedown 931 Posted September 29, 2014 While we are already so off topic and talking about sex, can we talk about drugs? Lol It's getting WAY too hostile here... Regardless of opinions we are all Charli fans. Let's hold back and summer down a bit... I'm guessing @@782anonymous isn't the only one here who is against marijuana and alcohol. I think it's interesting how when we say your sexual comments are creepy, you go back to how sex is natural and weed and alcohol aren't... For young people today they kind of are though... What's so wrong about weed? I think experimenting with softer and more accepted drugs like weed and alcohol are part of growing up. Young people do those things, just like they experiment with sex. And I don't hear about any young people dying from smoking a joint... I think drug policies should be more sensible. Lol sorry mods, this may be WAAAY too off topic. I'm actually curious how 782anonymous feels about this though because most people I meet that are against drugs and alcohol as he is are also against premarital sex but you're so incredibly liberal about sex yet use almost puritanical language when it comes to weed and beer. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
comeintomybedroom 8,657 Posted September 29, 2014 I have a good memory. I didn't read this thread to collect information on the posters; I just remember it. Every time you personally attack me, be prepared to have the mirror thrown in your face. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not only is obtaining someone's intellectual property through unofficial channels unethical, it's also illegal. Did Charli receive any money when any of you purchased (or obtained for free) her stuff through unofficial channels? I don't care how much you paid for it; you stole from her. I don't understand. Is he gonna notify the authorities? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewby 9,246 Posted September 29, 2014 The fact that you took the time to read this whole thread when you joined shows that you care about more than her tits and ass but yet you say that's the reason you want to see her live... I don't get it. I didn't even read this whole thread when I joined tbh and I was here a long time before you so it was a lot less reading. That's a lot of hours you've spent on Charli so it's a little hypocritical to call out other fans. As for the sex thing, I think you are looking at it the wrong way. I am American but I am very sexually liberal. I am also a feminist... There is a difference between finding someone attractive and objectifying them. Talking about looking up a girl's skirt to see her panties is over the top and rude. That's an invasion of Charli's privacy. Like those people who fingered Iggy so she had to start wearing multiple layers of underwear. It's gross and not appreciated by female artists. Songs about sex can be amazing, but vouyerism and obsessing over a fully clothed woman's body is just a bit much. Sexism and objectification are real things, and for now unfortunately, because almost every society started as a patriarchy and favors males, a straight male talking about Charli the way you do can be considered extremely sexist. She's not inviting those kinds of comments. My insides are weeping at the beauty from this post 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites