honeyslow 5,931 Posted May 6 i got around to listening to the full album today and idk as a casual listener i loved it, surprised the general reception has been so underwhelmed but maybe it’s just too european of a vibe 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
details 17,164 Posted May 6 what a hideous outfit but so nice of her to a free concert in nyc, wish i was there 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 6 9 hours ago, bonniewinterbottom said: DL1 era you will always be superior. My god, when I remember how incredible "Be the one" was when it came out, I thought Dua will be the new Madonna. And then "New Rules". Nothing on DL3 came even close to those songs, or any of the songs on DL2. Houdini and Training Season came close to being great, thanks to Parker, but the songwriting itself is nowhere near as good. Falling Forever is probably the worst DL song I've ever heard. Like Pitchfork said, "it's not a song, it's an assault". 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 6 5 hours ago, honeyslow said: i got around to listening to the full album today and idk as a casual listener i loved it, surprised the general reception has been so underwhelmed but maybe it’s just too european of a vibe The issue isn't that it's European. Everybody loves British pop, trip-hop, etc. In fact, European music nowadays is fab fab fab. Just check out Angele. It's that Radical Optimism lacks identity, has little personality, sounds like AI, and the worst cuts on it sound like Eastern European Eurovision entries, which is Europe's worst. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 6 14 hours ago, GeminiLanaFan said: Saw an insider account mention it yesterday. I think there is some sort of countdown on her website? one of the deluxe track would be a Katy Perry collab according to them don’t know how reliable this info is tbh, but a deluxe is surely on the way. Not a fan of Katy Perry, but I'm sure a collab with her (or anyone) would have made this album better. Dua can't even carry those 11 songs (30 mins of running time) on her own. She shoulda done another Angele collab, especially if she was going for that European sound (which, I dunno, she was?). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slayyyngel 1,293 Posted May 6 Her SNL appearance had more personality and flavor than the entire album. I'm not hearing "I bumped into my parents at 3 am outside the club and we were all stoned and drunk" from these tracks. Honestly I'm really just getting a lazy, spoiled rich girl who doesnt give a shit vibe from her at this point. Its like shes making albums because its her job that pays well but not her passion. The label can only do so much with an artist that clearly does not care or want to put in the effort to innovate. Like what even is the theme of this album? "clean girl" "White backdrop" and "uhh... summer?" seem to be the only vibes it gives with the 'summer' part being forced at the last minute. Its weird because she very clearly had the drive to improve as the "go girl give us nothing" moment really showed. Where is that energy now? Did she just think she was done??? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 6 43 minutes ago, slayyyngel said: Her SNL appearance had more personality and flavor than the entire album. I'm not hearing "I bumped into my parents at 3 am outside the club and we were all stoned and drunk" from these tracks. Honestly I'm really just getting a lazy, spoiled rich girl who doesnt give a shit vibe from her at this point. Its like shes making albums because its her job that pays well but not her passion. The label can only do so much with an artist that clearly does not care or want to put in the effort to innovate. Like what even is the theme of this album? "clean girl" "White backdrop" and "uhh... summer?" seem to be the only vibes it gives with the 'summer' part being forced at the last minute. Its weird because she very clearly had the drive to improve as the "go girl give us nothing" moment really showed. Where is that energy now? Did she just think she was done??? What I don't get with these pop stars sitting on 500 million dollars+ is: why not just hire songwriters to write you a record? Beyonce is very smart with that, with dozens of writers on board for every record. Lana does her own shit and is super productive so she doesn't need to. But Dua is not a great writer. "Dance the night", for example, is one big songwriting cliche that's been done a million times before, which is why it wasn't nominated for an Oscar. Compared it to "What was I made for" or "I'm just Ken" and the difference couldn't be more stark. So, if she had written five good ones, let's say, (the opening track, the three singles and, let's say, French Exit), why not hire songwriters for the other half of the album? Just look how well Padam Padam turned out for Kylie. I woulda literally hired the same Norwegian girl who wrote that track. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiLanaFan 49,044 Posted May 6 Still wondering how BoZ feels about this album Not a bad album, but this is, to me, her Solar Power: the summer vibes are bit off, it never compares to the album prior and it should have been an EP. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock Candy 1,754 Posted May 6 Let's discuss... Radical Optimism vs Endless Summer Vacation Spoiler RO 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trash Magic 28,379 Posted May 6 2 hours ago, barttttender said: The issue isn't that it's European. Everybody loves British pop, trip-hop, etc. In fact, European music nowadays is fab fab fab. Just check out Angele. It's that Radical Optimism lacks identity, has little personality, sounds like AI, and the worst cuts on it sound like Eastern European Eurovision entries, which is Europe's worst. Absolutely irrelevant but I saw Angele sitting outside a cafe in Paris last week 3 Quote "It's 2011, and we should all be aware of exactly how fast technology is developing" - Lana Del Rey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chorli Xbox 8,836 Posted May 6 52 minutes ago, Rock Candy said: Let's discuss... Radical Optimism vs Endless Summer Vacation Reveal hidden contents RO neither, y’all can keep it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
summer bummer 1,936 Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Rock Candy said: Let's discuss... Radical Optimism vs Endless Summer Vacation Reveal hidden contents RO the way ESV arguably had more trancey, psychedelic pop moments than RO and she wasn’t mentioning it in every interviews dua should’ve added some songs like handstand or river but RO is still miles better 💋 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonniewinterbottom 3,163 Posted May 6 5 hours ago, barttttender said: My god, when I remember how incredible "Be the one" was when it came out, I thought Dua will be the new Madonna. And then "New Rules". Nothing on DL3 came even close to those songs, or any of the songs on DL2. Houdini and Training Season came close to being great, thanks to Parker, but the songwriting itself is nowhere near as good. Falling Forever is probably the worst DL song I've ever heard. Like Pitchfork said, "it's not a song, it's an assault". EXACTLY AND I TOLD HER I SAID MA'AM. DL1 is full of classics. She will never top Bad Together, Running or Want To. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadSeaOfMercury 22,973 Posted May 6 4 hours ago, barttttender said: What I don't get with these pop stars sitting on 500 million dollars+ is: why not just hire songwriters to write you a record? That’s the thing about music, It’s not always the same. Some people like being the songwriter & others don’t. I personally prefer if the artist is the writer - But I still love Rihanna’s music. 4 hours ago, Rock Candy said: Let's discuss... Radical Optimism vs Endless Summer Vacation Reveal hidden contents RO I love Miley, But absolutely Radical Optimism destroys that album 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted May 6 I mean there’s rumours Dua contributes little to some songs so apparently she already does have a stack of writers on hand 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandon 13,317 Posted May 6 2 hours ago, evalionisameme said: I mean there’s rumours Dua contributes little to some songs so apparently she already does have a stack of writers on hand i mean it’s not really a rumor 😭 we’ve had PLENTYYYY of writers demos leak where there’s only a few different words LMAOO also idk i’ll never understand the superiority complex some stans have when their fav artist writes all their own music, like i could not gaf less about who’s writing in the studio, i just want something fun to listen to like damn… 3 Quote last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKASAKA SAWAYAMA 7,885 Posted May 6 am i blind or i have seen a comment saying that falling forever is the worst dl song?? OH THAT'S NOT---------- it is literally my only fave from radical floptimism 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trash Magic 28,379 Posted May 7 Flop. Proved to be a little fad of the 2020s 👋 0 Quote "It's 2011, and we should all be aware of exactly how fast technology is developing" - Lana Del Rey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 7 Dua's Meta Gala look was just as atrocious as her album lmao 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 4,963 Posted May 7 On 5/6/2024 at 12:42 PM, Trash Magic said: Absolutely irrelevant but I saw Angele sitting outside a cafe in Paris last week Omg. I'm gay, she's gay, but I still want to go down on her. She's glorious. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
