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Hey all. Use to be a heavy user here in the past, but took a long break around the time of Honeymoon release. So much to catch up on, especially with this thread! Learning so many new things, especially with this Rob info. It answers a lot, but also open up more questions as well.
 
 
  
  
  
I feel like a lot of people still talk about Mike, Arthur and Steve when it comes to her songs, as well as the new info of Josh... But what about the Million Dollar Man? Did we ever pin point who this was? He def plays a vital role in her lyrics. But because his story deals with "going away," which can be interpreted as jail or even death, his story has now been mixed in with Rob.
We know that...
Million Dollar Man is about a guy running an illegal business, and was later sent to prison for it. We know that Lana keeps in touch with one of her ex's mom, and that she doesn't know exactly where he his. In the past, I always interpreted this as he (the million dollar man), was dead. Since of how severe the crime was, she wasn't sure if he was in heaven or hell. This concept plays into Young&Beautiful, during the bridge where she makes her plea with God to bring her man into heaven with her. 
But now this new info of Rob..., gets me thinking this whole death narrative is about him and not MDM. Which makes total sense. I mean, being on death row for running an illegal electronic business?? I guess we can conclude that MDM is still alive, but stuck in the prison system. But we don't have a name for him, right?
 
In conclusion:
I think in the end, Rob + Million Dollar Man = K
Lana did always talk about the tendency of combining 2 guys together into 1 song. 
Illegal crimes, drugs, overdoses, rehab, jail/prison.... They're all ingredients to the K narrative.
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
Now i'm in the process of re-listening to everything Lana! Need to pinpoint everything Rob related to her music!But can we assume that the mom she keeps in touch with is Rob's mom?
Blue Jeans. Video Games too, if you go by what she said in this interview about "mutual sobriety" http://www.telegraph...iful-thing.html

https://twitter.com/lizzyskid/status/986018692587716609?s=21
 
 
More about Rob!! Apparently she was dating his friend first? Anybody know who that could be?

I'm convinced every song but salvatore is about Rob

I think so too for many reasons but this is the most obvious
Just from this line alone
“Life rocked me like Mötley bad beginning to my new year” he died dec 30 2011.

To go with the above,
 
He died on December 30, 2011 from heroin.
Also found references to Mountain Dew and the movie "Drugstore Cowboy" on his page.
He was also bouncing around a bit between Santa Monica & New York... "back to Santa Monica, New York to LA"
 
Lana just revealed a huge trove of potential information for us lol

Okay so now we know this is about Rob, whom she met when she was 19 (2005ish), living in Jersey, had a big impact on her and passed away. 
 
Rob was a friend of Mikey Martin's who she was rumored to date as well. Did she date both of them? 
"i am sleeping with your best friends" teas (Get Drunk recorded in 2007).
 
Also Mikey's from SoCal, so if Rob is too..."it only takes 2 hours to Nevada"
 
We have so much more information now 
 
Anybody have any other info?

Okay, I've held on to this info for a while to make sure when I shared it I had info from various sources and had opinions from a few people to see if this all adds up instead of it being massive reaching on my end. After a few months of digging, I think it's safe to say the identity of K has been cracked.
 
First, Josh's last name begins with K.
In 2008 him and Lizzy were posting things to each other (relationship wise) and he changed his relationship status to married around Dec. 11th, 2008 (based on someone commenting on a post asking when he got married - this could also explain why she wore a wedding around that time)
Josh plays World Of Warcraft (the game referenced in Video Games that Lana has mentioend before)
He said Video Games was about him
They lived together at one point based on statuses and pictures
He has a lot of tattoos which could represent the Born To Die / Blue Jeans guy (which could fit into the 'K Triology')
There's a pic of him sitting on the couch playing bass (lyrics - You play the bass)
There's a pic of them doing dishes where he said "dishes with dolly" (lyrics - I'm his little dolly.. yaaaaas @ Noir being about Josh!!!)
He also had Lolita lyrics in his 'about me' on Facebook until recently - which could mean a lot of the daddy songs are about him even though they're around the same age (ageplaying / roleplaying?)
Josh's tattoo development aligns almost perfectly with the Born To Die and Blue Jeans releases if he's the inspiration behind them

Excited either way. More music for me.

Potential Arthur Lynn stuff.
 
I was looking for an Arthur Lynn blog post and ended up looking through his posts. I noticed he referred to Van Halen as "kings" and the "band that changed my life and kicked me in the balls." He specifically tags them as "david lee roth, diamond, edward van halen." And that reminded me of Mermaid Motel:
 
'maybe we could go to Suede Tokyo
See Van Halen at their reunion show
Heavy Metal hour on TV
Diamond Dave and Ray Lee'
 
I mean, there's nothing saying none of her other long-haired boyfriends/paramours/whatever couldn't have liked Van Halen, but:
Arthur Lynn is confirmed as a boyfriend we have songs referencing his origins (Greenwich) we have songs referencing his favorite drink (Diet Mountain Dew) It doesn't seem odd that this could be a reference to him.

Lana Del Rey lived in New York City from like 2006 to 2009-ish. Van Halen's reunion tour with David Lee Roth 2007-2008 had a stop in NYC November 13, 2007 and May 23, 2008. Neither of these dates would conflict with her known shows. I don't know when she wrote Mermaid Motel, but she performed it at Arlene's Grocery February 3, 2009, so it's possible for it to refer to the reunion show as a past event (as opposed to a future event).


 
Ray Lee is currently a drummer for Korn but "served as the drummer of the Van Halen frontman’s solo band from 1997 to 2005, performing on 1998′s ‘DLR Band’ and 2003′s ‘Diamond Dave’ albums."
I'm still not sure about Suede Tokyo. There is a band by the name of Suede and they have indeed performed in Tokyo, but I don't know why Lana would refer to that. More educated people, help?
 
So I'm speculating Mermaid Motel is about Arthur Lynn. Which brings me to something else...
 
One site listed Lynn's interests as such (trying to find the site since, like an idiot, I just saved the interests). Pay attention to the bolded ones.
music, girls, guitars, america, diet mountain dew, van halen, ice cream, photography, jersey, angiescreams, indian summer, woods, food, freckles, the sun, the moon, seasons, amplifiers, family, friends, karma, october, yo mama, yo mama's apple pie, and those little people we call doggies
 
JERSEY
Note his blog is subtitled "thoughts from a jersey boy." His flickr lists his hometown as Jersey but "currently" (not sure when screenshot was taken) Greenwich, CT. I was already pretty sure that Motel 6 was about Lynn due to DMD references, but "to Jersey with love" makes more sense now.
 
MORE VAN HALEN STUFF + CONEY ISLAND + YOUR MOM:
This is the most recent screenshot I’m showing – we’re going in reverse chronological order, from ‘last login date.’
In this screenshot from her Lizzy Grant MySpace, url therichwhores, she lists Diamond Dave as an influence (along with Britney Spears and motorcycles, two other lasting influences). Notice she lists her location as New Jersey. Also notice that she describes her music as metal - not a musical genre I would put any Lana Del Rey song in, ever. I wonder if Arthur Lynn, who could conceivably be the one into "heavy metal hour," influenced her calling her music "metal."

 
She's still therichwhores here, but her location is now Alabama. Her genre is glam, blues, experimental. No metal – not yet, anyway. David Lee Roth is one of 3 influences, along with Britney Spears and motorcycles.
 

 
The earliest Rich Whores screenshot I’m showing. In this one, she lists David Lee Roth and Coney Island as influences... along with "your mom." Yeah, just like Mr. Lynn listed "yo mama." Britney and motorcycles remain, but the other influences have shifted. Arthur Lynn is explicitly listed as a member here. She's living in New York now. (aside: pretty things is an influence here. we'll see that again later)

 
 
 
AMERICA
Lana said this about one of her ex-boyfriends:
 
Lynn loves rock and roll, that's perfectly clear. But what distinguishes him from Gnecco or Carney or other musical liaisons? Well, the 4th 'like' listed by Lynn was America. It's a weak connection, but I don't think we've ever tied that comment to any other boyfriend. Lana didn't always talk or sing about America. Her May Jailer era stuff, for example, seems more focused on the details of personal relationships than concepts like America or archetypes like the gangster boyfriend. I don't know when Lana started playing with Lynn, but it'd be curious to see if that date coincides with an increasing number of references to Americana. If we assume Mermaid Motel is about Lynn, then we also have a connection to Coney Island, another interest of hers that you don't see mentioned in the early days.
 
To see how big the change from her May Jailer stuff to her Lizzy/Lana stuff was, let's look at more MySpace pages...
 
Folk, acoustic, experimental! Only one of these genre descriptors survived into the post-May Jailer MySpace descriptors. Her influences are Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg, Nirvana, Leonard Cohen, Radiohead... only Nirvana is repeated as an influence in the later MySpace page, although Daniel Johnston seems to be in the vein of singer-songwritery stuff.

A year later (according to last-login date) and "Cony Island" (sic) and "pretty things" have been added as influences. She's now experimental, blues, folk - the acoustic part is gone. Another mid-2000s screenshot shows "Bread and Oranges" appearing alongside Money Hunny, Fordham Road, and A Star for Nick. It now has its final name, Pawn Shop Blues, and For K Part 2 has shown up - the LDR album appears to be forming (Jump, Kill Kill, and Put Me In A Movie show up in the Lizzy screenshots above).
 
The last login date for this one is 5/17/2007, whereas the last login date for the earliest Rich Whores page is 12/12/2007. It appears to be a transitional state, not just with regards to her layout, but also her name and influences. The music is less acoustic. Coney Island starts showing up, as well as motorcycles and Van Halen. Metal inexplicably becomes a descriptor.
Would fit in pretty well with Arthur Lynn showing up… just sayin’. 
 
(one last thing... under band members, she lists "TAGS & TIM." Who are these people?)

 
CONCLUSION?
From 2007-ish to maybe 2009-ish, Lana dated Arthur Lynn. Arthur Lynn may be the boyfriend who loved rock-n-roll and America. Before his introduction into her band (and we don't know when they met, so they could have met before Lynn was part of the Rich Whores), Americana references were rare in her music, she made singer-songwritery stuff about people's lives, and she basically had a very different persona. Lynn becomes part of the Rich Whores, she now likes Van Halen, specifically David Lee Roth and the album Diamond Dave, Coney Island (all mentioned in Mermaid Motel), her music is described very differently (metal, really?; and glam), she somehow picks up on his jokes (yo mama)... I think he was an influential boyfriend.
 
Oh, and to tie this back to other boyfriends...
 
According to the Galore interview by Chuck, Lana broke up with Steve Mertens when she was 22. So 2007?
Lana mentioned a seven-year relationship with a record producer in the 2014 Fader interview and I think Mertens is the only one who could potentially fit that.
 
 
Which would make the timeline of that relationship 2000-2007. Which means she would have been 15 when she started dating Mertens... If Mertens is the 7 year relationship (and I don't think any of the other ones could be that relationship), then that means she would have had 4 major ex-boyfriends.
Mertens 2000-2007.
Lynn 2007 to 2008 or 2009
Mizrahi 2009 to 2011
Barrie 2012 (?) to 2014
 
Thoughts? It's like early in the morning and I've spent a couple hours doing this, so I'd like fresh eyes.

There was a theory that I saw in a thread earlier that says that the Jim she's referring to in this song is Jim Jones, the cult leader of The People's Temple. I think it makes more sense for her to reference that in the context of the song rather than an actual lover.

The song wouldn't necessarily have to be about JJ though, I think it was more of a name drop/ for comparison than anything, like she does with Elvis and Marilyn and etc etc.

I’m pretty sure it is Friday, even then. Not like it’s far

I still think what was released is amazing! Prob one of her best.
 
I'm curious, what all has leaked from this original album?

Off To The Races is a vital part of her discography, like it is the most "Lana Del Rey character" song we've ever gotten from her 

IMF deserves more than this. It's such a good song. Y'all rude and cruel.

Oh we were robbed! wtf was she thinking with that god awful tour bus cover wtf. Even the UO cover isn’t that great cause she looks angry as fuk.I love Lana but she is not a cover queen. I’ve never been impressed with any of heralbum covers, maybe the exception of Paradise. Even her single covers are miles better than the album covers.
Oh and what was the Chuck shot for UV?

That fan concept makes no sense at all, nor does it describe any story. Sorry.

Didn't Lana also say she re-shot the artwork for the album once the direction changed, or am I making that up? Or was this for a different album?

Oh we were robbed! wtf was she thinking with that god awful tour bus cover wtf. Even the UO cover isn’t that great cause she looks angry as fuk.I love Lana but she is not a cover queen. I’ve never been impressed with any of heralbum covers, maybe the exception of Paradise. Even her single covers are miles better than the album covers.
Oh and what was the Chuck shot for UV?

Maniac (1980)
Tourist Trap
I Drink Your Blood
The Sentinel 
Alice Sweet Alice
Sisters (1973)
Phantasm
Suspiria

Maniac (1980)
Tourist Trap
I Drink Your Blood
The Sentinel 
Alice Sweet Alice
Sisters (1973)
Phantasm
Suspiria

Hmmm. Like a 5% improvement than the cover we got.

I do love LFL, and found it to be a return to form in one way or another. I think what initially turned me off of the album when it's release was the collaborations. They were jarring, and didn't fit the record. I prob listened to the record about 2 times in 2017 and kinda moved on from Lana for the rest of the year. Now that 2018 is soon closing, i've been listening to the album A LOT! There's so many highlights that are surrounded by duds. There's a lot going on, too many tracks imo. She could have cut out 4 tracks and it would have been perfect.
This is how I rank the tracks:
 
PERFECT:
13 Beaches White Mustang In My Feelings Heroin (fucking amazing i tell you!) Love  
GOOD:
Cherry God Bless America Coachella When The World Was at War MEH:
Lust for Life Change Beautiful People Tomorrow Never Came Get Free SHIT:
Summer Bummer Groupie Love  
Now this is a cover!

I'm hearing rumors she submitted songs to Tarantino's new flick.

I'm hearing rumors she submitted songs to Tarantino's new flick.