niandra lades

I don't wanna make a scene nor anything of the sort. I just wanna say that this is a discussion forum and if people don't like this from the start (we must listen to the song to know if it's good or not), then that's their (or our) problem, if it is a problem. I just don't see the point in telling someone who is here because they love Lana that "there's no point in being here if you don't like NFR/COCC/BB/the-idea-of-the-Taylor-collab", it's straight up rude. This is a discussion forum and it's okay to like or dislike things and give arguments or not. Not everyone will have your same opinion and thats OK? I don't like this idea (still don't know if it will be good) because I really dislike Taylor's music and I know many others think the same, and this is a discussion thread for that, so what's wrong in voicing your own opinion... I'm not being rude to anyone for liking this. I might sound annoyed because I have my own thoughts on this which I'm not even sharing because I'm seeing how relentless some of you are, which it's ok! But there's no need to attack people you'll still be seeing here...

I don't wanna make a scene nor anything of the sort. I just wanna say that this is a discussion forum and if people don't like this from the start (we must listen to the song to know if it's good or not), then that's their (or our) problem, if it is a problem. I just don't see the point in telling someone who is here because they love Lana that "there's no point in being here if you don't like NFR/COCC/BB/the-idea-of-the-Taylor-collab", it's straight up rude. This is a discussion forum and it's okay to like or dislike things and give arguments or not. Not everyone will have your same opinion and thats OK? I don't like this idea (still don't know if it will be good) because I really dislike Taylor's music and I know many others think the same, and this is a discussion thread for that, so what's wrong in voicing your own opinion... I'm not being rude to anyone for liking this. I might sound annoyed because I have my own thoughts on this which I'm not even sharing because I'm seeing how relentless some of you are, which it's ok! But there's no need to attack people you'll still be seeing here...

yea and this is a fan forum after all … people are gonna have strong opinions on the ‚smallest‘ of things. i happen to feel strongly negative about this haha

People fail to understand that a forum is not a shrine or a church but a platform that very much lives off of contrasting opinions. ESPECIALLY more critical voices keep discussions alive. Without that, there would be no point in having a forum really. It's also interesting how there's a lot of hate towards Born to Die and Lust for Life coming from the Honeymoon &  NFR/COCC/BB crew but that really isn't being chastisized as much as hating on her more recent output, namely her last three albums.  

I think society as a whole is a lot more sensitive than needs be sometimes. It’s become wrong to criticise or say you dislike something…and you get branded ‘negative’ just for voicing an opinion.  There is no positive without negative in life and I think people need to learn to stop getting so upset over a different opinion just because it’s not all roses and fairy dust. 

I don't wanna make a scene nor anything of the sort. I just wanna say that this is a discussion forum and if people don't like this from the start (we must listen to the song to know if it's good or not), then that's their (or our) problem, if it is a problem. I just don't see the point in telling someone who is here because they love Lana that "there's no point in being here if you don't like NFR/COCC/BB/the-idea-of-the-Taylor-collab", it's straight up rude. This is a discussion forum and it's okay to like or dislike things and give arguments or not. Not everyone will have your same opinion and thats OK? I don't like this idea (still don't know if it will be good) because I really dislike Taylor's music and I know many others think the same, and this is a discussion thread for that, so what's wrong in voicing your own opinion... I'm not being rude to anyone for liking this. I might sound annoyed because I have my own thoughts on this which I'm not even sharing because I'm seeing how relentless some of you are, which it's ok! But there's no need to attack people you'll still be seeing here...

Ew.... Happy that she'll have more listeners though!

preach
and I feel the same as you  

I don't wanna make a scene nor anything of the sort. I just wanna say that this is a discussion forum and if people don't like this from the start (we must listen to the song to know if it's good or not), then that's their (or our) problem, if it is a problem. I just don't see the point in telling someone who is here because they love Lana that "there's no point in being here if you don't like NFR/COCC/BB/the-idea-of-the-Taylor-collab", it's straight up rude. This is a discussion forum and it's okay to like or dislike things and give arguments or not. Not everyone will have your same opinion and thats OK? I don't like this idea (still don't know if it will be good) because I really dislike Taylor's music and I know many others think the same, and this is a discussion thread for that, so what's wrong in voicing your own opinion... I'm not being rude to anyone for liking this. I might sound annoyed because I have my own thoughts on this which I'm not even sharing because I'm seeing how relentless some of you are, which it's ok! But there's no need to attack people you'll still be seeing here...

I don't wanna make a scene nor anything of the sort. I just wanna say that this is a discussion forum and if people don't like this from the start (we must listen to the song to know if it's good or not), then that's their (or our) problem, if it is a problem. I just don't see the point in telling someone who is here because they love Lana that "there's no point in being here if you don't like NFR/COCC/BB/the-idea-of-the-Taylor-collab", it's straight up rude. This is a discussion forum and it's okay to like or dislike things and give arguments or not. Not everyone will have your same opinion and thats OK? I don't like this idea (still don't know if it will be good) because I really dislike Taylor's music and I know many others think the same, and this is a discussion thread for that, so what's wrong in voicing your own opinion... I'm not being rude to anyone for liking this. I might sound annoyed because I have my own thoughts on this which I'm not even sharing because I'm seeing how relentless some of you are, which it's ok! But there's no need to attack people you'll still be seeing here...

i just know this song is about snorting lines on the beach, the 12 year old swifties are gonna be shook!

Ew.... Happy that she'll have more listeners though!

I'm totally here for it if that means a friend of mine who's a huge Taylor fan and doesn't listen to Lana will finally listen to her 

I also love how everyone thinks stripping it down and becoming boring and dreary = growth in music. You cannot tell me that Lana has been flourishing creatively and conceptually with the last three albums. And Taylor honestly just saw how much acclaim Lana and Lorde got for their Jack albums and jumped on that train. 😂😂😂
 
I am forced to listen to those boring ass albums cause my flat mate has been blasting them in our flat for the past two years. There is no growth or maturity in folk music or soft rock. It’s usually what artists do when they run out of creativity juice and start to become pretentious.

A pop collab with two very different artists that actually got played on radio and had mainstream potential definitely made me more excited than a collab with an artist I hate and produced by my least favorite Lana producer who is very much a one-trick-pony and has served up her most boring and washed up projects 😂😂😂.
In case you needed an explanation, there you have it.

Ew.... Happy that she'll have more listeners though!

Yeah I know this is subjective but this kinda cements for me that Lana has fallen off 💀 I’m sorry but what in the world-2012 Lana would never. 

Another quick little bingo (lyric edition):
 
1. Jim/Bill takes her down somewhere 
2. Not being a candle in the wind
3. Being either wild or crazy (bonus points if she's both)
4. Something being sweet like rock candy
5. Being spun around
6. Referencing the color blue in her no colors era
7. References to famous painters
8. Her karmic lineage
9. Leaving her current city/state to go to another
10. Her imaginary kids/maternity related lyrics
 

Fr not to be controversial but dealer is probably one of my least favorites from BB…this is just me but I don’t get the hype 

Want her back so bad omfg

Do any of you think K was real? I saw Honeymoun's latest posts and I didn't know his existence was actually accepted. I know that's what Lana has said about her life, but... I just can't believe it 

The time she sang Honeymoon sitting on a chair... wow! Her voice is amazing. I fall into another dimmension every time.

Posted by Chuck.

YES AND YES !!! that guitar outro is 

i WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE THE FREAK DEMO