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The difference between the artists Lana mentioned & herself is their music's more appealing to the GP, I don't think its realistically about the lyrics. if she wants to be treated different she should just change her sound. which IMO she's very much fine as she always is

she’s gotta be on something I’m sorry lol
 
Still adore her and believe she’s one of the best musicians ever but today has lowkey turned me off a little bit

she needs to stop talking about feminism, politics, etc unless she decides to educate herself first

i also can’t bring myself to listen to the poem..i read it here but her dropping a poem so soon after all this craziness is disrespectful. she needs to give it time to breathe.

it would have been another twitter mess waiting to happen

the title has the potential to be iconic af or brand her as a stupid lil conspiracy theorist

Fingers crossed the name is a satire, and she doesn't ACTUALLY believe in chemtrails. 
 

Lana: okay I'm done talking about this subject
Everyone: . . . wow that was weird
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Lana: OKAY JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING-

I understand why she wanted to say something but dear GOD let that be the end of it.
 
This shit isn't healthy.
 
Whyyyyy did she name drop Twigs whyyyyy

Absolutely agree with you. I love her but this is so tone deaf. I also feel like she’s going through something at the moment because most of what she’s getting criticized for now could have been avoided if she’d taken that first paragraph and the names of those WOC out of her mouth. She DOES come across as a WW who’s wilfully ignoring people who are trying to inform her - sounds like shes losing close friends because of it too from the video?
 
Love her but she’s tiring lmao

basically it's a verbal take on her "clarification post" and she's doubling down... AGAIN. bye girl.

same, if it is satirical this is gonna be my new fave album title
 
if not then... gurl

pls someone tell me that title is just referential & that she's not a chemtrail truther..........................................

I've been thinking about what has happened and I've come to some conclusions.
 
1. This was bound to happen in some way or form but I never thought it would've been so nuclear. We've all known for sometime that she is a lot more uneducated than she think she is about issues such feminism,politics and well, generally how the world works outside her middle class bubble. Ethier some publication during an interview would've questioned her during an album cycle or not even bother and called her out regardless in an article. If we can see how shallow she is then surely others would have aswell. Lana just elected to make herself look like coco the cool instead and show how arrogant and ignorant she can be. So yeah this was written in the stars to happen sadly.
 
2. She's not a racist but as I've said before making a list that predominantly featured WOC was a stupid stupid thing to do BC people were bound to jump to that conclusion. She could've used examples of her own race with similar backgrounds or she shouldn't of said any names at all. Which would've resulted in an less harsher outcome.
 
3. I don't like how she promoted herself at the end of the statement. This just makes everything she said look like she is asking for attention for her upcoming projects. We know as her fans, that Lana is not like that but outside perception would not see it that way.
 
4. Lana describing other WOC artists music as being sexy,fucking, cheating while describing hers in an more eloquent manner was another thoughtless move.
 
5. The victim mentality was shocking. Yes she went through some awful experiences with the media however loads of women have before her in the industry and will sadly do so in the future. That fact she worded it that it made her look like she alone had only experienced such hellfire was questionable. Also she isn't the only or first artist to sing about abusive relationships, drugs etc and get called out for it. A good example of this would be her idol Amy Winehouse. The only difference being that back then Amy didn't have the internet/social media up her arse like Lana did so it wasn't so extreme or vocal.
 
6. I'm not not a feminist. This was bound to be misread, even I had to double take while I was reading the statement for the first time. She then proceeded to completely reveal she hasn't got a clue about feminism by saying we're in the third wave when we are clearly in the early stages of the fourth.
 
So before I end this Tedtalk I just want to make it very clear, unlike the good sis that I still do like her. I hope she finds it in her heart to educate herself better on certain subjects and to not be so bloody stubborn. She made some legitimately good points but I do feel after going over everything that she dose owe an apology of some sort or a better more clear headed, less heated response.
 
Also sorry if this was long

i was thinking about this today, kinda. in my view the israel thing was infinitely worse & didn't get anywhere near the backlash this did. personally, it was the closest i ever got to unstanning her (and by this i mean downright stop listening to her music) - and tbh if she hadn't canceled the show, even if she did so with a lame ass excuse, i probably would've.
 
not to say she didn't do/say anything wrong this time, but ultimately the victims/targets of her ignorance and tone deafness here are rich, famous, successful women. in the israel debacle she showed a total disregard for the lives of oppressed, colonized, poor civilians & an unwillingness to listen to those who tried to explain to her why it was wrong to perform there.
 
this is not an invitation to discuss the israel-palestine conflict, btw. i've learned my lesson re: discussing politics on lb. my point is that this goes to show how hypocritical and performative a lot of these concerned responses are, how people care so very much when it's a pop culture matter & someone they idolize is being targeted, but not when it affects regular brown people dying in another continent.

Be careful what you wish for ...

Yeah, I didnt mean it in a bad way. I think she was attracted to that way of living during that time.

I think she lived in the trailer for the AKA Lizzy Grant aesthetic tbh

I'm not challenging you but I have come to the conclusion this is how Lana is. Maybe tone deaf but more in line with clueless about what results her actions will get. Just like the President who can't stop tweeting no matter how much his inner circle tries to tone him down. I don't think it's an intellectual understanding it may just be wiring. She reacts/responds and has no ability to think it through. My point is that unfortunately this is not the end. Maybe of this episode but I'm sure we'll all be gathered around this campfire at least once again in the next year or so. I'm with you though, I HOPE she doesn't go on any more rants.

just for you. and leaks.

in her typewriter post she said “same as ten years ago when a million think pieces came out about me feigning emotional fragility or lying about coming from no money when that was the truth.”
 
i don’t see this conversation as accusing, we are simply discussing in a discussion board. this same discussion of her growing up with or without money has probably happened on this board dozens of times...not new.

You like to give her the benefit of the doubt and yet you dragged her all over the place with the mother's day stuff and assumed her poor relationship with her mother was her fault? Lol okay. We know she lies about a lot of stuff, and who knows why.

because she (Lana) brought it up in a recent instagram post

I agree with this.
 
She was clearly not North West, but she came from a "comfortable" background, she wasn't struggling with buying cocoa puffs.

Not you falling for that schtick lmao