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The level of mental gymnastics some of y'all do for the sake of defending her, smh.

The past week left me so disappointed in her, tbh, it's just mentally painful. Lana meant A LOT to me and then suddenly she (herself!) reveals that she's just living in her own bubble, ignorant, only concerned about people who "look and act like her" and making herself a martyr. I'm just SO close to unstanning.

The level of mental gymnastics some of y'all do for the sake of defending her, smh.

The past week left me so disappointed in her, tbh, it's just mentally painful. Lana meant A LOT to me and then suddenly she (herself!) reveals that she's just living in her own bubble, ignorant, only concerned about people who "look and act like her" and making herself a martyr. I'm just SO close to unstanning.

her best album

Imagine having the flawless taste to love 24... Can relate

honeymoon is my fave.. and reading all of this makes me proud to feel this album so much.

I wish she’d get rid of the songs she’s obviously bored of and sing HM & UV songs instead

This is like, a genuine question. and to a degree, I already know what some answers are like but. what does Lana posting mean to you? 

Like others have already said, when it comes to looking at the bigger picture, no one's really gonna pay much mind to whether or not she says something, and w the whole week from before n what happened. and I get the platform talk, especially w isolation, and i'm not defending her for not, bc actually I'd like for her to mention something if anything, but is that her role?

But what does it mean to you? really?

Is it supposed to validate or renew your faith in her? your loyalty to her? is it about power, being able to be upset about her, so it gives you some kind of connection closer to her or something? bc not to be callous, but reality is, I mean fill in the blank. and if she doesn't, will it be some kind of end, burning the "stan" card? what does that even mean. can you handle it and look at yourself before you do? 

you're allowed to listen to her music and everything about being a fan doesn't have to parallel that. it's not forgoing ur principles, it's being wise enough to know that two things can be true. it's messy. we're human. we're all working on it.

is her not posting attacking your ego? is it shame that you're feeling for her, for yourself? who? does it make you feel a bit better to hurl responsibility towards someone else? can u direct whatever you're feeling into something more productive?

this is gonna sound so shitty, but I hope the message resonates in that when I say, you're upset about her, bc she doesn't seem to fill some kind of need that you'd like for her to perform, and project these things. the same woman people were surmising on whether or not she was mentally fit (there's concern, and then there's scrutiny), the same woman people critique as if those decisions were to enchant her into fulfilling those roles (I'm not different when I spew out ideas on the forum yeah, I get that, they're innocent for the most part for me) yet talking about her freedom, and who she dates for approval as if it mattered, speaking on the things she should do, shouldn't etc. is that fair? you can't have it both ways like that. at least not at the same time. fickle. 

truth is, we upset ourselves. at least to a degree. we can't touch her. and for a lot of reasons, that's a good thing. we're rooting for her, and I get the upset, it's can be dissonant having an artist that means a lot to you personally not fit in to what your expectations/values are. but reality is, is that hers for her shoulders to take alone? or did u impose these on her and then get upset bc she didn't. be upset I get it. but try to move past it and do better for yourselves. ourselves. we've all had or are having our share of hardships, let's not discount that one bit. she's fought hard for her life and probably went through what might break and have broken many.

we're here. she's there. that's it. if u really want her support, find a meaningful way to get her attention. I'm aware that I'm writing in length, but the sway of comments just come off in regurgitation. damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. 

I'm writing, asking this. because yeah this is a forum based on her career. but it just. it seems like some (don't quote me on this) are getting genuinely, deeply upset, and ok I can get that who am I to impose on your reality, but getting dependent on what this woman says or doesn't. not to make anyone feel bad, but. something seems disproportionate. 

all we can do is make sure we're doing what WE can for those we care about, working together as and with our communities. maybe she'll follow suit, maybe she won't. but please step back a bit, take a breath and try to not be so dependent on her like that. she's not a medium. she's another human being.

we all know what that's like, and sure, she's privileged, definitely, but she's also in a delicate sort of path of life, where literally she's got a lot to be responsible for on a personal basis. and the microscopes/magnifying glass' lasering at her in some room in her conscious. she's go to face so detachedly but still probably takes a toll. belonging to everyone and no one. can u imagine how alone that makes someone feel? i'm sure we all perform in our lives to a degree to maintain harmony. and if you know what that's like, could u empathize that magnification for her? 

like it's so easy. so. why does it mean so much to you personally? 

and if she let you down, so what? I hope u find whatever u need in yourself to press on. bc the world's not gonna stop spinning tomorrow (unless there was like a meteor i don't wanna trail off), telecommunications granted, likes, media follow thru. do u do it to defend? great- to shout into the void? also great, let it out, but try to be smart about it. but I'm thinking there are more important things that we could all be doing. even Lana-veined. I ask bc I genuinely wanna know.

and this is gonna sound so cheesy but I really think it matters so I'm just gonna say it but, what I hope you take from this is, whatever impact you decide to make. I hope it's a positive kind, from a place of love and mindfulness than anything else. and that ur acts of kindness ripple into the collective, and that you genuinely touch others' souls and that it awakens something in them to want to perpetuate that synergy, appreciation, and love. if u can be the bigger person, please do it. I get that it's hard, really. but try to be better than those who failed before. we need it. 

there's a saying that goes like. yesterday I was clever so I wanted to change the world. Today I'm wise, so I'm changing myself. (edit: I thought it was gonna be like a philosopher like Socrates or something but it was Rumi loooooool but still). Have you looked into yourself today? are there things that you should be fixing for yourself first, so that maybe society has a better chance to follow suit? I get the write off's and I decided to write this long because maybe some people might've gotten something positive out of it, truly. It might be hard, don't bullshit yourself, but it pays off so much. and I hope it aligns this kind of resilience to you that renews you and what's it's like to be human. 

What's at least one thing, that u can practically do to move that positively forward? 

I've obligations to continue. and answers don't need to be upfront. just think about it. 

Artists are still people. I'm not an artist yet I spread the word because it's important and it's the decent thing to do. 
 
The thing is, Lana has portrayed herself to her fans to be socially aware and has actually gotten political before, so why now does she choose to be quiet? I understand she could receive backlash, but it'll happen if she does or doesn't make a post. If she cares, she'll bring awareness. It really is that simple. Her spreading awareness could do a world of good and prompt her fans to make donations and such. 
 
Also I think people here also forget that Lana has black stans, and I know quite a few are actually disappointed in her silence.

they're right.
 
she doesn't need to write a personal post - in fact, it's better if she doesn't. this isn't about her. RT posts written by black people & posting donation links would be more than enough. it's not even *just* about making her stance clear in this literal "with us or against us" moment, but abt using a huge public platform to amplify black voices & thus actually help the movement. 
 
and i can't @ people here justifying her silence with "she's taking a social media break" & "but people would just criticize her more". if indeed that's the reason, do you realize how selfish that makes her? that she's just out there sulking via social media blackout & putting her own feelings above human rights?

Lol can ya’ll stop defending her and saying “well maybe she’s doing something behind the scenes”. Okay? And? She has millions of followers and while backlash is possible, if she cares enough, she’ll post. She’ll bring awareness. Simple. End of. Nothing more about it. Silence speaks volumes.

She should work with Rick and Emile again... Or Dan.

CHEMTRAILS SPRAYED BACKWARDS ACROSS THE SKY
– California Country Club Racism Accusations in My Mind

Also, fwiw I actually really liked White Hot Forever as an album title  felt synonymous with passion, fire and youth. Bit given recent uhh... events... I can understand how it could've been really misconstrued.

COCC 

okay but COCC is so iconic..it’s gonna crack me up everytime i see the abbreviation

I didn't noticed I'm dying

i hope that the title lends itself to heavier production than NFR, but i don't feel super confident about that if jack sticks around. also the abbreviation is COCC bye

No more Chuck Grant album covers
Society has progressed past the need for Chuck Grant album covers
 
We need a photographer who will actually release more than 2 images from the shoot!!!!!

she made the right choice not naming it White Hot Forever sdjhf

This title calls for a Slim Aarons style album cover with chemtrails in the sky...
 

Love that I have no expectations for this record but really hoping for a fuller, rockier, synthy sound

I hope she brings ANGRY and LOUD and STRONG vocals to this record.
 
SCREAM YOUR HEART OUT LANAAAAA! 
 

the title has the potential to be iconic af or brand her as a stupid lil conspiracy theorist

this is gonna be an amazing album because it’s literally just gonna be elizabeth and not lana

I am way more excited for this record than NFR and it also comes from the fact that I'm coming in with zero expectations since release date is so close and we have nothing. I don't even want to know about the cover or design I'm just here for the music and sound and I want it to be loud and rocky à la West Coast