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idk if this is what ur talking about but this is what came to mind for me - the best performance of this song ever 

Final setlist:
13 Beaches
Pretty When You Cry
Cherry
Scarborough Fair (cover outro)
Yayo
Born to Die
Blue Jeans
God Bless America - and All the Beautiful Women in it (acapella)
White Mustang
Honeymoon
National Anthem (w/ 'Happy Birthday Mr. President' video intro)
When the World Was at War We Kept Dancing
Lust for Life
(Start Medley)
Change
Black Beauty
Young and Beautiful
(End Medley)
Ride
Video Games
Love
Old Money (acapella)
Cruel World
Ultraviolence
Summertime Sadness
Off to the Races
 
---
 
BTD - 6
P - 2
UV - 5
HM - 1
LFL - 8
Misc - 2
 
Total: 24
 
now this is what I call a SETLIST!
 
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So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

Lana brought up Rob again tonight before performing Yayo. I wonder why she all of a sudden decided to share this with us!

On the DailyMail snapchat lol

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

I thought the same thing the other night. It seems like he is the missing link. 
Although I’m not sure if the timeline works. Per the article on Recovery Road he was in rehab possibly in June of 2004, but we don’t know Lizzys movements around this time at all, this was during her gap year. I really want evidence to connect Lizzy to RR as maybe that could tell us more.
If she met Rob first I don’t think she wouldn’t referred to him as Mikey’s best friend. Or maybe she did to refer to a band people know about, who knows.
 
Additionally, his moving around a lot seems to be a few years before his death (2009-2011 roughly). I don’t think they were much in contact during this time. He would’ve came up somewhere and she was deep in working on her record at this time, in London etc.
Before 2009 I believe he was on tour with the STG.
There’s also absolutely zero pictures of the two of them anywhere. I think someone else said it could've been a very short fling or friendship but as she said, affected her a lot.
 
We don’t know a lot but I’m gonna keep looking.
Crazy thing is that his full name was in her Twitter this whole time!
 
PS I SAW THE K THING TOO

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

Here's a little timeline I made, using some dates from the Lizzy years. A lot of it, towards the end, is just chronicling her Tweets, which may be excessive -- but might still provide interesting context. And, of course, it's far from done yet
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l6wDtgXSvCCmwuHrCxDWD5ha3DmzQDeKSSlgWyNCdlA/edit?usp=sharing
 
The Early Shows section and the month-by-month chronology on the Wiki were absolutely indispensible. 

''I'm usually always singing about the same goddamn person so...I'll love him forever but it's all good'' do you guys think she's reffering to Rob here? 

Yeah, I actually used it to construct this timeline! The reason to make a new one was to include things that either the Lanapedia timeline didn't include (certain recording dates, etc.) + posts and songs from Lana's social media (Myspace and Twitter).
 
It's a super resource, though

Lanapedia has a complete timeline! Check it out, it's really good. That's how I discovered that Lana was a Marina fan before BTD was released

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

So, after scrolling through what's available on Rob's Facebook, I'm just kind of... in awe. I'd like to make a more detailed, coherent post later, after doing some more reading, to connect him to certain songs -- but, for now, I just need to get thoughts out. Firstly, I'm just heartbroken at all the people who seem to really miss his presence -- he seemed to be a truly sweet guy who really impacted everyone he was around.
 
Secondly, I'm feeling more and more that he's the missing link we've been looking for in Lana's music. I'm not sure if the time fits, but I can't help but reattribute a song like "Kill Kill" -- "I'm in love with a dying man/I have done everything I can..." -- to him, rather than K. I think she could've surrounded him with a lot of metaphorical death imagery, in her fear that she might lose him to drugs.
 
Also, from reading the Facebook posts by his family, I'm gathering that he traveled a lot -- could this be the real-life inspiration for a song like "1949" -- which is obviously lifted from "Lolita", but could also carry a personal meaning for Lana, as she wishes he could take her on one of these globetrotting trips with him? It fits with the themes of "Yayo", of escaping with him. 
 
Also, I can't help but think that he's almost certainly the subject of "For K, Pt. 2", with the original demo being called "Rehab", and such. So, my question is, could she have met Rob early enough that he could be the subject of even the earliest K songs? For one, I know the name K has been believed to refer to a different man in her life, whose name I won't say here, but I really think K could be Rob -- couldn't the "death row" references just be another metaphor for her fear of losing him to death? I'm feeling that she knew he'd hear these early songs (maybe she even played them for him!), so she gave his character a pseudonym, and a fictionalized vice, so he wouldn't know that she was singing about his drug problem.
 
It's a lot to take in, and I may be far off the mark. I read all the info late last night, so I need time to reprocess it, but I thought I'd at least get this initial information out of my head in some way.
 
Also, I don't think this is *actually* significant, but... it's kind of funny. Names and pictures (except for his first name) have been blacked out for privacy, so I hope it's okay to post this here:
 

 
K

i don't recall ever reading this in the lanalysis thread -- in one of the handful of blog posts Chris C did on Lizzy, he shared screenshots of their messages and a poem she commented on:
 



 
the blog is pretty telling. Chris was married w/kids, but talking to Lizzy and another girl named Sarah online. looks like he ended up meeting Sarah, but never met Lizzy before things dissolved. he also seems to suggest that Lizzy didn't really harbor the same feelings for him that he had for her, and he regarded her as more of a muse than a lover
 



 
also, sorry if this has already been shared! it was very new to me

Here's a little timeline I made, using some dates from the Lizzy years. A lot of it, towards the end, is just chronicling her Tweets, which may be excessive -- but might still provide interesting context. And, of course, it's far from done yet
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l6wDtgXSvCCmwuHrCxDWD5ha3DmzQDeKSSlgWyNCdlA/edit?usp=sharing
 
The Early Shows section and the month-by-month chronology on the Wiki were absolutely indispensible. 

I'd gladly contribute to this if y'all were up for it!
 
Roles would be awesome

I figured the Mountain Dew was about that guy (can't remember his name) with longer hair on his myspace? Iirc he had a direct image of Diet Mountain Dew & even a picture of fetuses and how he wanted to name them Lana and Ray, which was also the man that potentially inspired Wayamaya?
 
Also Afraid is a song (to me) about escaping physical abuse, could she have 'extremified' the type of abuse and written along the same scenario you think? Like she had to leave because of his relapse and she was possibly afraid of his potential abuse or how much he'd wither? 
 
Lucky Ones too? holy shit
 
 
 
This isn't related to the quotes but I'm both amazed, terrified, and heartbroken reading all of this. Not because it's such a death ridden life but because it's so interesting reading all of this down to the specific wire. Even in it's early days literally nothing is ever NOT found on the internet, think about celebrities living similar lives to Lana's ten years ago but right now, everything they'll ever fucking do will be even more findable than these- and all these examples are from an internet era in which everything was harder to use. 
 
It's also insane just seeing how much we know about one persons life- we have threads about her as Lizzy even fucking babysitting in photos, a thread about finding her boyfriend that supposedly murdered people and was sent for a death pentalty (the fact people have even found his NAME is scary.)- stuff so secret and private and yet here we are, hundreds of fans she doesn't know finding out everything about her- even information she herself probably had forgotten. It's also such a goddamn telling tale and fantasy, her life before fame is literally a plotline that would've been written as a book years ago and would've become a tragic literary american classic, I hope when she's older she can remember all of these things and produce a fully transparent auto biography, because her life is SUCH a work of art.
 
Every little reference just makes her entire discography that much richer and more telling, the simplest titles inspired some of her best work, i love her so, so much- she's the only person that deserves the entire world in my opinion 

You could be right. Poked around a bit, and it appears heroin is the drug that killed him.
 
More interesting notes, I found references to Mountain Dew and the movie "Drugstore Cowboy" on his page.
 
He was also bouncing around a bit between Santa Monica & New York... "back to Santa Monica, New York to LA"

Holy shit. This is a big deal for Lanalysis. @SitarHero
 
It also really ties together a bunch of stuff including something I stumbled on recently which I'll hopefully have more to say about soon.

It's weird to bring Lana songs into reality. Her music is an escape for me, so thinking about Yayo being about Rob is weird. Also, I'd imagine the man in Yayo is quite older than her because of the "daddy" part. But then again, her dad's name is also Rob 

Just by looking at obituaries it appears he died on December 30, 2011 so Lana's tweet then makes sense. So Yayo was written for him while he was still alive. Therefore, any songs about death on Born to Die (Dark Paradise, for example) or songs prior to 2012 couldn't have been about him.

To go with the above,
 
He died on December 30, 2011 from heroin.
Also found references to Mountain Dew and the movie "Drugstore Cowboy" on his page.
He was also bouncing around a bit between Santa Monica & New York... "back to Santa Monica, New York to LA"
 
Lana just revealed a huge trove of potential information for us lol