Beautiful Loser 48,829 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, imapartygirl said: There is a version of her singing and there is a snippet of it Right?? And people said it was fake, I wouldn't believe them. 0 Quote LB DEMOGRAPHICS SURVEY 2024 | SECRET SANTA 2024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Grants 13,489 Posted January 4, 2023 TJF demo when 16 Quote and also for giving me Margaret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImenaOphelia 9,663 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Beautiful Loser said: Has anyone asked about Ave Maria? I'm 100% convinced a version with Lana's singing exists somewhere out there, that track is too beautiful and haunting for her to not sing on it! it has been confirmed before 6 Quote archiving any ldr-related stuff I can find (like, literally) LANA DEL REY TRACKER last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Future Jazz 9,194 Posted January 4, 2023 dark city seeing that don't call me angel stems leaked before it did 35 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beautiful Loser 48,829 Posted January 4, 2023 ok I'll leave this thread before I look like a newbie who knows nothing and I have unfinished uni assignments waiting *sobs* 10 Quote LB DEMOGRAPHICS SURVEY 2024 | SECRET SANTA 2024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted January 4, 2023 @BlackoutZone are all of the Honeymoon demos produced by STINT from late 2014? (God Knows I Tried, Freak Like Me, The Blackest Day, Say Yes to Heaven “legit version 2” and likely more that are unleaked). I assume these were earlier than later in the process. Thanks! 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormriver 397 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BlackoutZone said: This debatable, it's whatever perspective you want to take on this. Patrick Warren is someone who gets commissioned by Rick to record - let's say Keys and Strings that gonna sound like this and that. Patrick records them and puts them in a form of stems, then sends back to Rick who is doing with those parts whatever he wants without Patrick's further involvement. Patrick producing these demos is nearly an equivalent of you right now DMing random producer who advertises themselves online, sending them acapella/unfinished demo and paying them for laying new production however they imagine. The redeeming part of this is that Patrick seemingly had partial stems of the real Rick Nowels produced track so these pieces of sounds are real. I won't dwell into that further, take that as you want. For now these are the only leaked versions anyway so it's not like there is any other option than appreciating them as they are. Thank you for the points you've made here. I think just to counter your point vis a vis your hypothetical of me DMing a random producer with a demo, I do personally see there being a distinction between that situation and the one surrounding PW's SYTH edit. The edit was done by a notable producer who has worked with Lana in the past, and in my mind that does affect whether or not it's seen as a real demo. In the mind of PW, from what I understand, he genuinely produced it under the impression that it would be under LDR's (or her team's) consideration as a legitimate demo. The inclusion of elements of Rick's original production I think also bolster it's status as official as you say. All that being said, if the LDR fandom decide the inclusion of PW's edit as an official version is not correct, it'll be removed. A difficult grey area and (hopefully) one we won't have to traverse again! 11 Quote i have a tumblr right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackoutZone 4,701 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, IanadeIrey said: @BlackoutZone are all of the Honeymoon demos produced by STINT from late 2014? (God Knows I Tried, Freak Like Me, The Blackest Day, Say Yes to Heaven “legit version 2”). I assume these were earlier than later in the process. Thanks! Yes, I don't remember exact dates, but all the HM demos that leaked around the same time can be considered STINT demos 27 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadesofloveduthenandnow 20,610 Posted January 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Future Jazz said: the invite version of iyldwm leaking tonight 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BlackoutZone said: Yes, I don't remember exact dates, but all the HM demos that leaked around the same time can be considered STINT demos Thank you! <3 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 32,991 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, BlackoutZone said: Yes, I don't remember exact dates, but all the HM demos that leaked around the same time can be considered STINT demos any tea on ocean boulevard process? it seems much less thrown together than BB 3 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
americangothic 1,691 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BlackoutZone said: Yes, I don't remember exact dates, but all the HM demos that leaked around the same time can be considered STINT demos Speaking of which, are the "Pink Flamingos" / "Ice Cream" demos actually produced by STINT? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImenaOphelia 9,663 Posted January 4, 2023 @BlackoutZone do u have any tea on NFR California Demo & music video? is there any chances of them leaking in the near future? 13 Quote archiving any ldr-related stuff I can find (like, literally) LANA DEL REY TRACKER last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackoutZone 4,701 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Stormriver said: Thank you for the points you've made here. I think just to counter your point vis a vis your hypothetical of me DMing a random producer with a demo, I do personally see there being a distinction between that situation and the one surrounding PW's SYTH edit. The edit was done by a notable producer who has worked with Lana in the past, and in my mind that does affect whether or not it's seen as a real demo. In the mind of PW, from what I understand, he genuinely produced it under the impression that it would be under LDR's (or her team's) consideration as a legitimate demo. The inclusion of elements of Rick's original production I think also bolster it's status as official as you say. All that being said, if the LDR fandom decide the inclusion of PW's edit as an official version is not correct, it'll be removed. A difficult grey area and (hopefully) one we won't have to traverse again! Yes I can agree with that, I'm just showing that he remains someone who isn't actively involved with these songs. Notice how I mentioned the Something Real fiasco happening later on, this very much means he was not even talking to Rick outside of his invoiced requests to even know what they were actually working on if he didn't realize the email was fake and they actually aren't working on YTH/YG/FC at all. They are still notable versions until real Rick demos leak at least 29 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom 21,538 Posted January 4, 2023 My ultraviolence unreleased album doubling and halving within 7 days… the duality of leakers 35 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormriver 397 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BlackoutZone said: Notice how I mentioned the Something Real fiasco happening later on, this very much means he was not even talking to Rick outside of his invoiced requests to even know what they were actually working on if he didn't realize the email was fake and they actually aren't working on YTH/YG/FC at all. Fair point and interesting to think about, thanks for your help. 1 Quote i have a tumblr right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackoutZone 4,701 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, americangothic said: Speaking of which, are the "Pink Flamingos" / "Ice Cream" demos actually produced by STINT? No, all HM songs first begun as Rick x Lana sessions, everything that has any involvement from other people is them joining as the song progresses in production Also keep in mind that certain titles are not really attached to any particular versions. Throughout Lana's career most "demo" titles are used interchangeably till the very last minute when she decides on one. 36 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,303 Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlackoutZone said: No, all HM songs first begun as Rick x Lana sessions, everything that has any involvement from other people is them joining as the song progresses in production Also keep in mind that certain titles are not really attached to any particular versions. Throughout Lana's career most "demo" titles are used interchangeably till the very last minute when she decides on one. would this suggest that there's an unleaked early rick nowels demo of freak? also, do you know anything about the "phil spector" version? 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom 21,538 Posted January 4, 2023 the last page i read before this one was page 67… if anyone has a roundup of info please send it my way. i’m begging. as long as we didn’t find out True Love On The Side was fake, im happy. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted January 4, 2023 So if the first version we have of I Talk to Jesus is from 2012, is the second one (produced by Tim Larcombe) from 2012, 2013, or 2014? 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites