Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[Jared 3,131]

If I were a mod, anyone who bad mouths Jack or NFR would be put into a guillotine. 

 

[ArtDecoDelRey 15,284]

If I were a mod, anyone who bad mouths Jack or NFR would be put into a guillotine. 

 

the justice system found dead in a ditch! freedom of thought and speech has been CANCELLED. I propose we change the website to www.JAREDBOARDS.net where it becomes a jackoff fanfiction porn site. We will rule by mob mentality and force!

[West Coast 45,795]

If I were a mod, anyone who bad mouths Jack or NFR would be put into a guillotine. 

 

 

Sometimes I legit question whether or not you're troll and you actually agree with us, or you're literally trying to find a way to suck Jack's dick.

[Jared 3,131]

I wouldn't call myself a troll. I think I'm just trying to make light out of a dark situation (which is this never-ending NFR/Jack hate circle jerk).But enough about me. 

 

If only there was a way to quickly find out how many songs Lana and Jack recorded this month. 

 

[West Coast 45,795]

I very much feel that, I hope Lana gets her hearing abilities back ASAP. This new production/mastering approach is literally frightening, I mean for someone that claimed to spend months producing and mastering records, this is quite unbelievable.

 

I get that she wanted to make something lighter, more moody (?), but it literally sounds like bunch of demos back and front.

 

The attention to detail was left for dead in a ditch. 

 

Is there any hope for Lana to collab with someone else, maybe someone new? Like our Lord and saviour Kevin Parker? 

(I don't know if you guys are still talking, but Neil Krug can you match these two pleaaase?)

[cherryblossoms 10,420]

I very much feel that, I hope Lana gets her hearing abilities back ASAP. This new production/mastering approach is literally frightening, I mean for someone that claimed to spend months producing and mastering records, this is quite unbelievable.

 

I get that she wanted to make something lighter, more moody (?), but it literally sounds like bunch of demos back and front.

 

The attention to detail was left for dead in a ditch.

 

Is there any hope for Lana to collab with someone else, maybe someone new? Like our Lord and saviour Kevin Parker?

(I don't know if you guys are still talking, but Neil Krug can you match these two pleaaase?)

Tame Impala’s records already have a lo-fi aesthetic so I can only imagine how you’d react to the mastering if they collabed. Would probably make NFR seem like a work of art to you

[movebaby 5,379]

Tame Impala’s records already have a lo-fi aesthetic so I can only imagine how you’d react to the mastering if they collabed. Would probably make NFR seem like a work of art to you

 

the difference is that tame impala did/does it well

[West Coast 45,795]

Tame Impala’s records already have a lo-fi aesthetic so I can only imagine how you’d react to the mastering if they collabed. Would probably make NFR seem like a work of art to you

 

Ain't nothing wrong with Low-fi though? NFR is not Low-fi at all, to a certain extent maybe UV was. But what I dislike about NFR above all is how sloppy the end result was with a lot of songs. How tinny the piano sounds, how it lacks bass, how a lot of amateur-ish mistakes transpired in the mastering of the record, there are people that think it adds to the so called "charm" of the record, making it more "organic". I just feel like it makes a lot of the songs have this demo/unfinished "quality" to them.

 

Low-fi does certainly not equal cheap.

 

Also, I'd like to add that Lonerism is a Low-fi piece of art, literally one of the best, if not the best, psychedelic album released this decade. 

 

[cherryblossoms 10,420]

the difference is that tame impala did/does it well

Like a lot of people have said before, it doesn’t matter who she collabs with. At the end of the day, it’s Lana that makes it sound the way it does. X producer can butt heads with her all they want during writing/production but once the album is mixed, I doubt they really have a chance to argue about the mastering. And it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna change anytime soon unless Lana decides production errors isn’t an aesthetic anymore.

Ain't nothing wrong with Low-fi though? NFR is not Low-fi at all, to a certain extent maybe UV was. But what I dislike about NFR above all is how sloppy the end result was with a lot of songs. How tinny the piano sounds, how it lacks bass, how a lot of amateur-ish mistakes transpired in the mastering of the record, there are people that think it adds to the so called "charm" of the record, making it more "organic". I just feel like it makes a lot of the songs have this demo/unfinished "quality" to them.

 

Low-fi does certainly not equal cheap.

 

Also, I'd like to add that Lonerism is a Low-fi piece of art, literally one of the best, if not the best, psychedelic album released this decade.

 

I mean, a lot of the criticisms you’ve made about the mixing/mastering are characteristic of lo-fi style records so it just sounds like you’re saying all the production faults in NFR would suddenly be given a pass if they were present in a record that was made with artists other than Jack.

[West Coast 45,795]

I mean, a lot of the criticisms you’ve made about the mixing/mastering are characteristic of lo-fi style records so it just sounds like you’re saying all the production faults in NFR would suddenly be given a pass if they were present in a record that was made with artists other than Jack.

 

That's kind of a weird statement, NFR was the result of Lana and Jack's collaboration. Surely if Lana had worked with someone else we would've had a completely different record from start to finish. 

 

I said what I said. There's a difference between the style of production Lana (and Jack) went for on this record, and what, for instance, Kevin Parker did on the first two records of Tame Impala. They are both completely different in style and execution. I don't mean to say that you are putting words in my mouth, but you kind of are. While I do firmly believe that NFR has a somewhat, and sorry for a lack of a better word, but "cheap" sound. On Lonerism, for instance, I feel the opposite. Just listen to his tracks Endors Toi and Apocalypse Dreams. They have definitely a Low-fi vibe, but they sound far from cheap, they are complex, with rich and balanced instrumentals. Not saying none of the tracks on NFR have good instrumentals though, but the execution was completely different, and somewhat sloppy in my honest opinion.

[cherryblossoms 10,420]

That's kind of a weird statement, NFR was the result of Lana and Jack's collaboration. Surely if Lana had worked with someone else we would've had a completely different record from start to finish.

 

I said what I said. There's a difference between the style of production Lana (and Jack) went for on this record, and what, for instance, Kevin Parker did on the first two records of Tame Impala. They are both completely different in style and execution. I don't mean to say that you are putting words in my mouth, but you kind of are. While I do firmly believe that NFR has a somewhat, and sorry for a lack of a better word, but "cheap" sound. But on Lonerism, for instance, I feel the opposite. Just listen to his tracks Endors Toi and Apocalypse Dreams. They have definitely a Low-fi vibe, but they sound far from cheap, they are complex, with rich and balanced instrumentals. Not saying none of the tracks on NFR have good instrumentals though, but the execution was completely different, and somewhat sloppy in my honest opinion.

Appreciate the response. I guess I was just curious as to where you draw the line when it comes to the mixing errors you listed from being a stylistic choice. Because I remember we had a conversation about this before. All the criticisms you have about NFR sound right in line with how I feel about LFL. A record where I felt the presence of production errors actually came off as pretentious rather than artistic. I feel it actually it suits NFR but I see what you mean. +1 for Apocalypse Dreams

[West Coast 45,795]

Appreciate the response. I guess I was just curious as to where you draw the line when it comes to the mixing errors you listed from being a stylistic choice. Because I remember we had a conversation about this before. All the criticisms you have about NFR sound right in line with how I feel about LFL. A record where I felt the presence of production errors actually came off as pretentious rather than artistic. I feel it actually it suits NFR but I see what you mean. +1 for Apocalypse Dreams

 

I guess I see where you're coming from. There were definitely mixing decisions I found to be out of place or weird on LFL, but my biggest complain about LFL would be that it had too much trap beats and collabs, which just felt weird for a Lana album, or her sound for that matter. Also a lot of the lyricism on LFL felt forced or just juvenile in my opinion. NFR is definitely a more mature album overall. 

 

I do not actually hate NFR, I just have a lot of complaints about it. I don't mean to sound hateful, there are definitely songs I love on this record, but overall there are a lot of artistic decisions that were made in the process that just don't make me enjoy this album to the fullest.

[Venice 6,933]

Appreciate the response.

 

I guess I see where you're coming from.

 

Love it - this is what we need more of on this board. Free speech but also acceptance of difference in perspectives.

[West Coast 45,795]

I do not find pleasure in the misery of others, but it's actually quite hilarious coming here and seeing you acting like Jack is the second coming over Christ and acting like NFR is Lana's only great album, just because the same sucky critics that overlooked Lana's entire discography up until now woke up from their long winter's nap and finally gave her some sort of recognition. Also, acting like this is literally her only interesting album. 

 

 

Jared you are the funniest, literally!

 

[Make me your Dream Life 87,866]

venice bitch is a timeless classic 

venice bitch invented ice cream.

[Crimson and Clover 22,505]

the holy trinity of california, hiab, and nfr with venice bitch being the virgin mary   

[domandapiano 12,101]

venice bitch is a timeless classic 

 

Facts. It has aged so gracefully and even though it was released a year prior to nearly everything else it is never a skip for me, none of it. I always want to hear the 6+ minutes of California fantasy after the main song is over. People can use whatever else they want to discredit Jack and I won't always disagree with them but he DID produce Venice Bitch which is just fucking perfect. 

 

and since im listening right now Ill compliment FiILY because its one of the other perfectly produced tracks on the album. I really dig both versions depending on my mood and it pairs well with Venice Beach because they both capture a similar aesthetic and feeling. 

[cherriesinthespring 5,486]

Oh thank god this thread (at least this page, haven’t read back) is positive. I just got out of the WHF thread and was like wtf....it’s a non stop hate train on poor NFR. I love NFR. At first I thought it might top UV for me but now I’ve backed off that but it’s very very close. NFR is a masterpiece with not one bad song on it (but I do sometimes skip love song)

[lil aerosol 2,297]

I am a huge Jack stan not just for his work with Lana but Bleachers is life BUT I'm not gonna go shoving it down people's throats. hope I'm not ass-kissing tho 

 

and his work on NFR is amazing. y'all are just nitpicking. even objectively it's a very well produced album.

[Make me your Dream Life 87,866]

alright so lowkey story time, went out this past weekend, had loads of fun yada ok now. past the forced hurling and getting back to centering myself like pre sunrise. I'm driving out from my childhood neighborhood, to this bridge of my past neighborhood. the sun's fucking rising from the fucking clouds to my right, as I'm driving down the giant bridge. Like a giant ass eggyolk, lighting up the fucking gray in the sky, to this magnificent, like orange, to this yellow- while Love Song's playing, and everything about myself is calm? not happy, not excited, not anything. just calm. peaceful, and safe and shit. I mean I defo smiled after and everything but, those moments before the day starts? Always the best, and like, it seemed so much larger, life at that moment and, being at that higher vibration of thinking? god I've been too busy to not realize that. it was one of those, u know? like a fucking movie moment but it was just all around me. Siri, stream Love song ty ty