Jizzy Grant 150 Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Dark But Just A Kenny said: 11. Trail Of Tears (3:49) “And there we were, walkin’ the Trail of Tears Feathers in my hair and I saw you saw who I am” 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fart Deco 12,714 Posted November 6, 2021 LDR9 a.k.a. Heaven ain’t Nothing but a State of Mind 1. White Nights 2. Pearly Gates (Heaven ain’t Nothing but a State of Mind) 3. Bathroom Floor Blues 4. Silk (feat. Kali Uchis) 5. Lucid Dreaming 6. Serene Queen 7. Bare Teeth 8. 21 Grams 9. Pills on the Pillow 10. Stay (Away) 11. Requiem 12. D.N. 13. Curtain Falls 14. I Put a Spell on You Prod. by Mike Dean & Emile Haynie. Strings by: Dan Heath 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liz Taylor Blues 18,728 Posted November 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jizzy Grant said: “And there we were, walkin’ the Trail of Tears Feathers in my hair and I saw you saw who I am” O-oh-klahoma ooh oohh please lets stop discussing this before ldrbrazil spreads it all over stan twitter and lana gets cancelled for real this time 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourGirl666 13,231 Posted November 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jizzy Grant said: “And there we were, walkin’ the Trail of Tears Feathers in my hair and I saw you saw who I am” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drugmunny 8,879 Posted November 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i think people keep using it because obviously it's controversial & they want to stir up shit lol it's just like...weird and insensitive esp since lana has made a point of having a special connection to native american charities and paying reparations and it feels like ppl associating her w/ cultural insensitivity in a way thats not accurate maybe it's not that deep but 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 201,037 Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, drugmunny said: it's just like...weird and insensitive esp since lana has made a point of having a special connection to native american charities and paying reparations and it feels like ppl associating her w/ cultural insensitivity in a way thats not accurate maybe it's not that deep but some people just suck & want to see her get in trouble for something she obviously didn't do, ever since qftc people have been pushing this narrative that she's completely clueless & insensitive just because she might've worded something badly or made one mistake 5 ─── ⋆⋅ ♰ ⋅⋆ ─── Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,550 Posted November 6, 2021 Let the Trail of Tears title die Lana would never, and I'd hope nobody would actually ever 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket0212 2,053 Posted November 6, 2021 Yikes. The way I thought it's a beautiful title but then googled what Trail of Tears means. Lana should leave politics for good. I'm honestly still a lil bit offended by that When The World Was At War song and I'm not a twitter SJW. I know that lyrics are not connected to WW2 but it's the biggest historic event here and it still affects our lives. And American singing something like this. Another L for Lust for Life. Left this track in 2017 and never listened again. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunset Opal 4,319 Posted November 6, 2021 theme of the next album will be fire and phoenix more tracks with the wfwf burning edit and bitchy lyrics 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportscruiser 11,893 Posted November 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Rocket0212 said: Yikes. The way I thought it's a beautiful title but then googled what Trail of Tears means. Lana should leave politics for good. I'm honestly still a lil bit offended by that When The World Was At War song and I'm not a twitter SJW. I know that lyrics are not connected to WW2 but it's the biggest historic event here and it still affects our lives. And American singing something like this. Another L for Lust for Life. Left this track in 2017 and never listened again. What’s offensive about that song? Genuinely curious. I’m not German but I’m from Europe so I’m very familiar with the WW2 context and yet I don’t see what’s problematic about When The World Was At War… 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 201,037 Posted November 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sportscruiser said: What’s offensive about that song? Genuinely curious. I’m not German but I’m from Europe so I’m very familiar with the WW2 context and yet I don’t see what’s problematic about When The World Was At War… i don't really get it either, also, if the song doesn't in anyway mention ww2, why bring it up? i honestly have barely listened to that song but i would assume it's about finding joy when times are troubling/uncertain, going by the title of the song... 11 ─── ⋆⋅ ♰ ⋅⋆ ─── Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportscruiser 11,893 Posted November 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i don't really get it either, also, if the song doesn't in anyway mention ww2, why bring it up? i honestly have barely listened to that song but i would assume it's about finding joy when times are troubling/uncertain, going by the title of the song... It’s quite clearly about how America turned a blind eye on the violence of war the country found itself in overseas, while everyone was “dancing” and pretending to be indifferent towards pain. I don’t see anything offensive about it and if anything it’s the closest Lana has ever gotten in criticizing America’s mindset during the war (for instance in Vietnam, I’m assuming?). 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frangipani 11,611 Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Sportscruiser said: It’s quite clearly about how America turned a blind eye on the violence of war the country found itself in overseas, while everyone was “dancing” and pretending to be indifferent towards pain. I don’t see anything offensive about it and if anything it’s the closest Lana has ever gotten in criticizing America’s mindset during the war (for instance in Vietnam, I’m assuming?). Yeah she wasn't offensive about it in any way 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missamericatrash 796 Posted November 6, 2021 40 minutes ago, Sportscruiser said: It’s quite clearly about how America turned a blind eye on the violence of war the country found itself in overseas, while everyone was “dancing” and pretending to be indifferent towards pain. I don’t see anything offensive about it and if anything it’s the closest Lana has ever gotten in criticizing America’s mindset during the war (for instance in Vietnam, I’m assuming?). This is an interesting take, bc I (though dont rly like or listen to this song) never thought of it pertaining to a specific war. My interpretation is how the world is kinda of always at war, not literal war, but constant conflict and issues, while being just an average citizens without any real power (as opposed to a politician), but still trying to remain positive. Which in a way we can all relate to, bc at most all we can do is educate ourselves, dance, sign petitions, etc 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportscruiser 11,893 Posted November 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, missamericatrash said: This is an interesting take, bc I (though dont rly like or listen to this song) never thought of it pertaining to a specific war. My interpretation is how the world is kinda of always at war, not literal war, but constant conflict and issues, while being just an average citizens without any real power (as opposed to a politician), but still trying to remain positive. Which in a way we can all relate to, bc at most all we can do is educate ourselves, dance, sign petitions, etc Maybe my interpretation was a bit too literal But given the overall late 60s/early 70s Lana was clearly going for visually and thematically with Lust for Life, I always took that particular song as a critical outlook on how Americans positioned themselves in that particular period of the country’s history and how that has direct parallels with the 2016/2017 political climate. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Flamingo 17,137 Posted November 6, 2021 I'm just going to say that I want it to be produced by Mike Dean. Lana please let the piano rest in peace. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missamericatrash 796 Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sportscruiser said: Maybe my interpretation was a bit too literal But given the overall late 60s/early 70s Lana was clearly going for visually and thematically with Lust for Life, I always took that particular song as a critical outlook on how Americans positioned themselves in that particular period of the country’s history and how that has direct parallels with the 2016/2017 political climate. Oh definitely! Its always so interesting to hear everyone's interpretations (I feel so much more emotional about the sequence of Living Legend - Cherry Blossom - Sweet Carolina, bc of your sweet words about them). I feel like with WTWWAWWKD could be a bit of a parallel with what you said about America's war AT Vietnam (bc lets call it what is was) and the Trump admin. Bc there was a lot of backlash with anit war groups during the 70s, with protest groups (and from what I remember, that subculture/"hippies" blew some buildings/things up in protest, which is ironic in itself - but dont quote me on that bc its been a bit since I was in school), which was reflective once Trump came into power, in regards of more backlash. And now we are where we are 4 minutes ago, Selfloathinpoet said: I'm just going to say that I want it to be produced by Mike Dean. Lana please let the piano rest in peace. For every piano song we require 2 non piano songs. Perfect ratio 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missamericatrash 796 Posted November 6, 2021 Did not mean to merge those two responses 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket0212 2,053 Posted November 6, 2021 Oh yeah. I definitely misinterpreted that chorus. I just never liked that song enough to think about it a lil bit more I guess. Just to explain - the way it sounded on my first listen was "while the world fucked it up before by playing stupid wars we (Americans) were the cool guys and kept dancing". With pre chorus it may sound like she's saying that it may be the end of America and then switching to being more positive saying that it's the beginning, because America already did it once while the whole world was at war. Honestly thx for explaining how it's about her criticizing how America was living in a bubble. It makes sense. In conclusion: I'm a clown and SJW. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourGirl666 13,231 Posted November 7, 2021 Dreams Sound Better With You 1. Dreams Sound Better With You 2. Oh Say Can You See 3. Wilshire 4. Terrence Loves You... Revisited 5. Moonlight Blues 6. Crazy For You 7. See You Through 8. Sealed With a Kiss 9. Blue Eyes 10. Sickenly Beautiful 11. Why Don't You Do Right 12. Cry Myself To Sleep 13. The Garden 14. Deep in a Dream This is Honeymoon's even more depressed and drugged sister. The jazz and soul influence is stronger and the production is very 50s. I'd compare it to Sinatra's In The Wee Small Hours. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites