Manson 1,142 Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, DinahLee said: The more interesting part for me was the fact it was copyrighted as Interscope since... I'm not sure she sold the rights of these songs? Didn't she buy AKA rights to get it out of circulation and owns it herself\not Interscope? That's basically the reason that keeps me from ditching the idea that this YT block is just bs. The copyright is shown as being in the hands of Interscope. That's pretty interesting 'cause we didn't know they had this within their catalogue? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mssainttropez 14,760 Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, keps2013 said: they ate because i used to think this was the official cover The one thing that threw me off was how clear it was and the lowercase, specific “i’m” but same 0 Quote ⊹˚⋆ 𝒃𝒂𝒃𝒚𝒅𝒐𝒍𝒍 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 ‧₊° Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 14,016 Posted February 15, 2023 59 minutes ago, Get Drunk said: Ah yeah, I’d it was from the LDR.fm days that makes sense. I remember the screenshot of a star for nick and now that I think about it, I believe it might’ve had the song length as well? Like, she embedded it on her MySpace page potentially? A Star for Nick can be seen on various screenshots of her Myspace profile, yes. Here's the earliest one I could find from the old Imgur album (but it doesn't show any lengths): It's still unknown what exactly "For Charlie" is, but I'd assume "Of A" = Birds of a Feather... 8 Quote wanna get to heaven, so let's get high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manson 1,142 Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coloringbooks said: A Star for Nick can be seen on various screenshots of her Myspace profile, yes. Here's the earliest one I could find from the old Imgur album (but it doesn't show any lengths): It's still unknown what exactly "For Charlie" is, but I'd assume "Of A" = Birds of a Feather... On this screenshot it would mean though that Next to Me is actually River Road? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Grants 13,489 Posted February 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, TropicoKitten said: This is actually quite interesting but I have to agree with Coloringbooks. The Siren song titles are probably going to be forever debated unless Lana herself confirms them another thing to add on the the yet-to-be-created “things to ask lana whenever any of us see her in person” thread 12 Quote and also for giving me Margaret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,411 Posted February 15, 2023 i doubt that lana even remembers much about this era to be honest 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Manson said: On this screenshot it would mean though that Next to Me is actually River Road? possibly! no one is actually certain though 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtimeman 8,937 Posted February 16, 2023 My understanding is that Youtube puts zero effort into verifying copyright claims, particularly when it's a big company making the claim. You have to prove that they don't own it. Because Lana is under contract to Interscope, they probably claim as much of her music as they can, even though they have no actual ownership over it. It's cheaper for Youtube to just agree with a claim than to spend even a minute to research it. eg https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/6/22820318/youtube-copyright-claims-transparency-report 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That Venice Bitch 28,165 Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Manson said: Idgi though... why are other leaks "confirmation" of the track titles we used so far for this project? I don't understand why UMG registered track titles (that Interscope seems to own) are not considered more accurate and real... Lana shared Junky Pride, A Star for Nick, Out with a Bang, and Bad Disease on Myspace with those titles attached. That’s 4/15 titles confirmed. Sirens, Young Like Me, and From the End were all rips from CDs. When Sirens leaked, the metadata listed the tracks as Track 1, Track 2, etc. When Young Like Me and From the End leaked, the titles were actually attached to the metadata. Since there was a lot of overlapping songs between the three projects, 7 more titles on Sirens were confirmed. That’s 11/15 titles confirmed. The only titles that remain unconfirmed are Birds of a Feather, Pretty Baby, My Momma, and Next to Me. They’re all educated guesses, and the “alternate” titles are just what the songs were referred to as before we got official titles. YouTube claims the song as copyrighted material under that (incorrect) name because that’s what it was uploaded and got popular as way back in 2012. Doesn’t mean you can’t use those titles; some people do! Also indebited is not a word Edit: Stoned out of my mind and didn’t realize this had already all been said. Embarrassing bye! Edited February 16, 2023 by That Venice Bitch 10 Quote .・゜゜・ ⋆·˚ ༘ * GIVE PEACE A CHANCE ˚ ༘ ⋆。˚ ・゜゜・. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominikx4 25,413 Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Manson said: Idgi though... why are other leaks "confirmation" of the track titles we used so far for this project? I don't understand why UMG registered track titles (that Interscope seems to own) are not considered more accurate and real... theyre not always correct. Cola is registered as Pussy. Dark Paradise is just Paradise etc., there are many other instances of that happening 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinum Greenwich 13,848 Posted February 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dominikx4 said: theyre not always correct. Cola is registered as Pussy. Dark Paradise is just Paradise etc., there are many other instances of that happening tbf with Pussy specifically ( ) that was the title given by Lana herself in the YT description for the Paradise album trailer 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizzyology 7,019 Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Coloringbooks said: A Star for Nick can be seen on various screenshots of her Myspace profile, yes. Here's the earliest one I could find from the old Imgur album (but it doesn't show any lengths): It's still unknown what exactly "For Charlie" is, but I'd assume "Of A" = Birds of a Feather... Random, but the Lana Apple Photobooth pic in the back center is one of my favorites lol - had to scrap the unobstructed version from a random person’s archived MySpace page last year 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manson 1,142 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Dominikx4 said: theyre not always correct. Cola is registered as Pussy. Dark Paradise is just Paradise etc., there are many other instances of that happening Didn't know! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,411 Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, lizzyology said: Random, but the Lana Apple Photobooth pic in the back center is one of my favorites lol - had to scrap the unobstructed version from a random person’s archived MySpace page last year what's the unobstructed version? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Husband Thief 3,904 Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 11:08 PM, Manson said: Ok but wait... with that logic it would mean that "Drive By" was formerly uploaded as "For K" for whatever reason and based on whatever source of information? And that's why, whenever I upload "Drive By" now it would be called "For K"? But "Pretty Baby" is actually "For K"?? The song formerly known as “Rehab” was released as “For K, Part 2”. Since there is a Part 2, logically a Part 1 has to exist among her uploaded/published material. Sirens is the only thing close to a full length album we know of. Therefore, it was guessed that one of these songs could be “For K”. Drive By was initially assumed to be “For K” because of the line in the song “K's a friend of mine”. However, knowing that the song is called “Drive By”, it’s even more likely that “Pretty Baby” is actually “For K”. Why? Because structurally and lyrically it shares strong similarities with Rehab/For K Part 2. In For K (Pretty Baby) the “pretty baby” portion appears in the verses. Rehab/For K Part 2, flips it around and uses its own “pretty baby” portion for the chorus. And if that wasn’t enough, they share a very similar rhythm and tempo. Lana probably noticed the similarity later on and renamed Rehab “For K Part 2” instead to highlight the fact that they are sibling songs. On 2/15/2023 at 11:32 PM, Manson said: On this screenshot it would mean though that Next to Me is actually River Road? That is quite possible but not confirmed sadly. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImenaOphelia 9,663 Posted February 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Coloringbooks said: oh thank you for this! i've been searching for screenshot with For Charlie and Of A for a while to include it in the tracker 5 Quote archiving any ldr-related stuff I can find (like, literally) LANA DEL REY TRACKER last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 14,016 Posted February 16, 2023 If Lana ever does audience requests again like she did for LA to the Moon tour in 2018, someone's gotta ask her to sing For K Pt 1 and put an end to this confusion once and for all 10 Quote wanna get to heaven, so let's get high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImenaOphelia 9,663 Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coloringbooks said: If Lana ever does audience requests again like she did for LA to the Moon tour in 2018, someone's gotta ask her to sing For K Pt 1 and put an end to this confusion once and for all tbh i expect her answer to be something like "im sorry, dont remember it anymore" 9 Quote archiving any ldr-related stuff I can find (like, literally) LANA DEL REY TRACKER last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavensentslut 4,187 Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Coloringbooks said: If Lana ever does audience requests again like she did for LA to the Moon tour in 2018, someone's gotta ask her to sing For K Pt 1 and put an end to this confusion once and for all fuck for k i need PIN UP GALORE 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizzyology 7,019 Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Surf Noir said: what's the unobstructed version? It’s the crazy a** colored pic in the middle with her hands up in the air, but without the text/ MySpace pop ups over it - I’ll send it to you a later today!!! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites