Grammy Awards 2024 - Lana Del Rey Nominated for 5 Awards

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27 minutes ago, Black to Blue said:

Does anyone know how Grammy voting works exactly? I was thinking about this earlier: I’m a really big fan of reggae music but it’s not a genre that a lot of people are familiar with. Time and time again we see that if the Marleys are nominated for Best Reggae Album nine times out of ten they win even if they’re undeserving.  (Ziggy Marley’s wife is also on some board for the Academy so it’s likely to do with that too lol)

 

Do these voters actually listen to the nominations in every category or do they just see “oh I like so and so” or “oh I recognize that name I’m gonna vote for them”? I believe that for certain niche categories it should be primarily voted on by peers in that genre. E.g. people in the alternative music space voting for people in the alt categories. And for main awards it should be a general vote that everyone participates in.
 

Like I said I’m not sure if this is how it works but I think a system like this would avoid the “Oh such and such artist was really popular this year I’m gonna vote for them” scenario.  

I saw someone make an explanation on reddit about how it supposedly works and it seems to all come down to constant campaigning and doing lots of things to get the voters' attention, which Lana doesn't normally do 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/lanadelrey/s/IYboeLYj3b

 

Ocean Blvd was a big era for her and she did do some campaigning, but nowhere near as big as someone like Taylor and I think that ultimately makes the biggest difference unfortunately 

[honeymoon is alive 21,905]

i just saw an edit with kintsugi “so everyone was there, they were standing and laughing and i’m on the side with my tears streaming down…” 

[Rivers 990]

I understand lots of her fans are upset she didn't win, but being nominated so many times and having a front row seat... I mean, here's the deal... She's all over New York and LA billboards right now, her music is exceptionally original and she has deeply inspired those who are winning at the grammys, which more or less seems like a bit of a popularity contest, for their standards. That's understandable. The recording academy aren't exactly the cutting edge of platforming what is the *best* artist, so much, as the most popular. Everyone essentially already understands this to some degree. 

She had a front and center seat to the grammys. Everyone knows she is extremely influential and I like how she has always skated at the edge of popular music, yet she is streamed more than Micheal Jackson. 

 

As far as fashion goes, I'm not exactly Pharell when it comes to fashion, but I thought her looks were killer. Another thing about how Lana is impactful is that she has an original fashion style that she has cultivated. Can you name another artist who has a personal novel fashion style like that? (No seriously)

 

She is definitely on another level. There's really nothing to be upset about. She's killing it right now and everyone knows it.  

 

[cherrytropico 11,091]

reading ‘only dull people are brilliant at breakfast’ by oscar wilde rn and i have to post some parts here that remind me of lana and the industry: 

 

“A work of art is the unique result of a unique temperament … the moment that an artist takes notice of what other people want, and tries to supply the demand, he ceases to be an artist, and becomes a dull or an amusing craftsman, an honest or a dishonest tradesman.”

 

“Now Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic.”

“In England, the arts that have escaped best are the arts in which the public take no interest. Poetry is an instance of what I mean. We have been able to have fine poetry in England because the public do not read it, and consequently do not influence it.”

 

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1 minute ago, cherrytropico said:

reading ‘only dull people are brilliant at breakfast’ by oscar wilde rn and i have to post some parts here that remind me of lana and the industry: 

 

“A work of art is the unique result of a unique temperament … the moment that an artist takes notice of what other people want, and tries to supply the demand, he ceases to be an artist, and becomes a dull or an amusing craftsman, an honest or a dishonest tradesman.”

 

“Now Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic.”

“In England, the arts that have escaped best are the arts in which the public take no interest. Poetry is an instance of what I mean. We have been able to have fine poetry in England because the public do not read it, and consequently do not influence it.”

 

"Everything popular, is wrong." - Oscar Wilde

 

I don't think Sylvia Plath or Allen Ginsberg were readily taken up and admired by the populous at the time. 

[Rivers 990]

If you really felt like Lana was not respected and wanted to poke the bear, you could go on a campaign and sell a 100,000 Justice 4 Lana t shirts with a stencil of Lana like the che guervera t shirts but instead of a communist beret, was a bow, you could make half a million dollars. 

[Quincy 4,480]

23 minutes ago, Rivers said:

She is definitely on another level. There's really nothing to be upset about. She's killing it right now and everyone knows it.  

 

Everyone knows it, but one of the biggest award shows totally snubs her?
 

After some reflection, I think they all knew she wasn’t going to win. They didn’t want her to. The consolation was to give her a bunch of nominations to try to lessen the blow, give the appearance that she had a chance. Pity nominations. 
 

The thing with Taylor, I really lost a lot of respect of her dragging Lana up and addressing her like that. I still respect her as an artist, but the award show, her behavior and the “voting,” it’s all a bunch of fake ass shit. 

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2 minutes ago, Quincy said:

Everyone knows it, but one of the biggest award shows totally snubs her?
 

After some reflection, I think they all knew she wasn’t going to win. They didn’t want her to. The consolation was to give her a bunch of nominations to try to lessen the blow, give the appearance that she had a chance. Pity nominations. 
 

The thing with Taylor, I really lost a lot of respect of her dragging Lana up and addressing her like that. I still respect her as an artist, but the award show, her behavior and the “voting,” it’s all a bunch of fake ass shit. 

 

I think they vote based on popularity. I don't really think that she was "snubbed" per say, considering she was given the front and center seat and went in with Taylor and the whole black swan white swan motif. It seems like she was the star of the show all night. The YouTube chat bar was also pretty hilarious. It's clear she tremendously influenced some of the singers who won. To me it seems like she is on top of the world right now. When was the last time I  the Grammys where the most popular singer songwriter winner brought up one of the nominees and considered them a legacy influential artist in their speech? Taylor knows how badass she is and so does everyone else. I think that's one of the interesting things about Lana how she is not at the top of the listing yet seems to have such a large reach of influence. She's on another level cuzzo. 

[Rivers 990]

The grateful dead are arguably the greatest and most influential rock band of all time and they never won a Grammy. 

 

"Don't believe the hype." - Flavor Flav 

[Rivers 990]

2 pac, Queen, Diana Ross, guns n roses, grateful dead. None of them ever won a Grammy. I think nominations are a better marker than *wins*. 

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55 minutes ago, cherrytropico said:

reading ‘only dull people are brilliant at breakfast’ by oscar wilde rn and i have to post some parts here that remind me of lana and the industry: 

 

“A work of art is the unique result of a unique temperament … the moment that an artist takes notice of what other people want, and tries to supply the demand, he ceases to be an artist, and becomes a dull or an amusing craftsman, an honest or a dishonest tradesman.”

 

“Now Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic.”

“In England, the arts that have escaped best are the arts in which the public take no interest. Poetry is an instance of what I mean. We have been able to have fine poetry in England because the public do not read it, and consequently do not influence it.”

 

this makes me tear up... so beautiful and now I will be going to the bookstore tomorrow to get this book. 

[Let the Light In 18,858]

 

[HeyBlueBaby 3,371]

The think pieces about Taylor are embarrassing. This is not the first time Lana lost multiple Grammy nominations in one night. It's not Taylor's fault. Let's be real, Lana had little chance of winning ROTY & SOTY with such tough competition with Flowers, SOS, and Midnights all being commercial smashes. Her best bets were the Alternative nominations, but she lost those too. It's sad, but we can't place blame on Taylor. Lana is a grown woman, if she didn't really want to get on stage, she wouldn't have. She was probably supporting her friend. Lana knows very well she is an underdog even though I'm sure she really would like a win.

 

But some of y'all are the same people who tried to convince yourselves Lana lowkey doesn't like Taylor so.....whatever I guess. 

[Rivers 990]

7 minutes ago, Let the Light In said:

 

Strange world....

 

On another note, how many times did Jack hit the j on the ride to the Grammys? 🤣🤣🤏

[FredRed 4,857]

8 minutes ago, Let the Light In said:

 

I'm sorry but this makes me laugh. It is so Lana! A great shot. 

 

Looks like a picture of some kids in high school. I'd feel much more comfortable standing next to Lana. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Americanboy said:

The think pieces about Taylor are embarrassing. This is not the first time Lana lost multiple Grammy nominations in one night. It's not Taylor's fault. Let's be real, Lana had little chance of winning ROTY & SOTY with such tough competition with Flowers, SOS, and Midnights all being commercial smashes. Her best bets were the Alternative nominations, but she lost those too. It's sad, but we can't place blame on Taylor. Lana is a grown woman, if she didn't really want to get on stage, she wouldn't have. She was probably supporting her friend. Lana knows very well she is an underdog even though I'm sure she really would like a win.

 

But some of y'all are the same people who tried to convince yourselves Lana lowkey doesn't like Taylor so.....whatever I guess. 

If Lana didn't went up there, they would be saying it was her being petty about Txylor Swift winning AOTY.

I don't really see any of the albuns you mentioned being competition against Ocean , granted that i don't like " pop " with the exception of Lana and some classic acts. Midnights is run of the mill generic pop music, even the song she did with Lana is bad ( i said what i said )

[barttttender 5,231]

30 minutes ago, Americanboy said:

The think pieces about Taylor are embarrassing. This is not the first time Lana lost multiple Grammy nominations in one night. It's not Taylor's fault. Let's be real, Lana had little chance of winning ROTY & SOTY with such tough competition with Flowers, SOS, and Midnights all being commercial smashes. Her best bets were the Alternative nominations, but she lost those too. It's sad, but we can't place blame on Taylor. Lana is a grown woman, if she didn't really want to get on stage, she wouldn't have. She was probably supporting her friend. Lana knows very well she is an underdog even though I'm sure she really would like a win.

 

But some of y'all are the same people who tried to convince yourselves Lana lowkey doesn't like Taylor so.....whatever I guess. 

it's a strange little relationship when you think about it. Very unexpected. It's like a prissy grade A cheerleader hanging out with the drama school kid who smokes pot with the "freaks". I guess opposites attract.

 

that said, taylor has good taste and she's clearly a very clever good businesswoman. If there's one ally you'd want in the music industry, it's her.

 

btw any photos of miley and lana together? I wonder where their relationship is after angel. Is liley on ariana's side? Like what's happening with that?

 

also we need a lana x quavo or migos collab assp! 

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the parasocial was parasocialing a bit but I was really wanting a sign of life after all that. Rob’s post and Lana’s comment made me so happy to see haha what a classic father-daughter moment 

[HeyBlueBaby 3,371]

47 minutes ago, barttttender said:

it's a strange little relationship when you think about it. Very unexpected. It's like a prissy grade A cheerleader hanging out with the drama school kid who smokes pot with the "freaks". I guess opposites attract.

 

that said, taylor has good taste and she's clearly a very clever good businesswoman. If there's one ally you'd want in the music industry, it's her.

 

btw any photos of miley and lana together? I wonder where their relationship is after angel. Is liley on ariana's side? Like what's happening with that?

 

also we need a lana x quavo or migos collab assp! 

I agree that it's a weird relationship. On paper, it makes total sense, but there are also somewhat stark contrasts of each other.

 

But you're right, Taylor is a good ally to Lana and has used her platform to shout her out multiple times, so why are Lana fans getting online being petty and annoying about her losing nominations when the Grammys have always snubbed her?

[HeyBlueBaby 3,371]

1 hour ago, ArtDecoVintageGirl said:

If Lana didn't went up there, they would be saying it was her being petty about Txylor Swift winning AOTY.

I don't really see any of the albuns you mentioned being competition against Ocean , granted that i don't like " pop " with the exception of Lana and some classic acts. Midnights is run of the mill generic pop music, even the song she did with Lana is bad ( i said what i said )

The Grammys award commercial success, and all of the other albums sold more and spawned big hits. Even if you think Ocean was better than them, it just couldn't compete. Plus, Taylor had too big of a year for anyone to think she was not walking away with her album wins.