2024 US Presidential Election - Kamala Harris/Tim Walz vs. Donald Trump/JD Vance

[Dominikx4 25,399]

19 minutes ago, baddisease said:

 

Then, I was going to vote Jill Stein, the candidate for the Green Party, but then her VP turned out to be transphobic and anti-abortion.

of course you would vote for russian asset and spoiler candidate Jill Stein, thats very on brand

[baddisease 17,652]

6 minutes ago, Dominikx4 said:

of course you would vote for russian asset and spoiler candidate Jill Stein, thats very on brand

 

Sorry that I don't like or have to like the mainstream candidates.

 

I actually was - before that - going to vote a mix of Democrat and Green positions, depending on who was available.

[Cherry Blossom 21,472]

8 hours ago, Candy Necklace said:

There is no world where Jill Stein is the ideal candidate 

Honestly I don’t know anything about her, I just assumed that she was perfect because of the conflict over people wanting to vote for her or Kamala  Could you explain why she isn’t? Like I said in my post, I’m not American so I know zilch about her or her policies. I’m interested in what makes her unappealing and what’s so controversial about her and her views

[Dominikx4 25,399]

16 minutes ago, Cherry Blossom said:

Honestly I don’t know anything about her, I just assumed that she was perfect because of the conflict over people wanting to vote for her or Kamala  Could you explain why she isn’t? Like I said in my post, I’m not American so I know zilch about her or her policies. I’m interested in what makes her unappealing and what’s so controversial about her and her views

The Green Party has no chance of winning whatsoever, but they pop up every 4 years to sell Jill Stein to the public and steal votes from the Democrats. While they might be successful in local politics, they never focus on that and literally just wait until the next election comes along - the only purpose for the Green Party's existence is to be a spoiler to the Democrats.

Let me be clear: Jill Stein only campaigns in battleground states, despite her polling so low she should be campaigning everywhere, so the only conclusion is that she willfully tries to be a spoiler.

 

Stein never held an office besides some unimportant local town council. Also, she is very buddy buddy with the russians...

 

She also kinda justifies Russia's invasion into the Ukraine by saying they were surrounded by NATO assets. She is generally critical of NATO

 

She supported Brexit, for God knows what reason.

 

Also, Stein believes numerous conspiracy theories and is an absolute nut. She thinks WiFi causes cancer and has shared anti-Vax sentiment in the past.

 

tl;dr: Jill Stein is a grifter and a russian plant

[That Venice Bitch 27,949]

4 minutes ago, Cherry Blossom said:

Honestly I don’t know anything about her, I just assumed that she was perfect because of the conflict over people wanting to vote for her or Kamala  Could you explain why she isn’t? Like I said in my post, I’m not American so I know zilch about her or her policies. I’m interested in what makes her unappealing and what’s so controversial about her and her views

She is simply an activist who got into presidential politics likely for personal gain. I have mixed opinions on her as a person but the Green Party itself here is just basically one big grift. Absolutely nothing like any international Green parties.

 

In 2016, third parties (the Green + Libertarian parties) effectively “spoiled” the election for HRC, who narrowly lost to Trump by margins won by the third parties. Stein was the candidate in 2016. She has had a weird character arc (kinda like Tulsi Gabbard). She’s an environmentalist but supposedly has investments in Raytheon, a weapons manufacturer. I personally think it’s a bit sensationalized but there is the discourse of her being a Russian asset. I think it refers to her being sat at a table with Vladimir Putin at some statesman dinner, and the Russian interference in the 2016 election. ALSO random but she was asked how many US congresspeople there were and she said “What is it, 600 something?”… like ma’am if ur running to be president of the United States…

 

To me she’s a grifter and if she were a real political leader there would be Green down ballot progress across the country but there are fractures within the party itself and the lack of any formidable leadership shows that the party is a shallow husk of meaningful Progressive policy

 

Spoiler

I did vote for the Working Class Party in my US House district, as my Dem representative sucks

 

[Cherry Blossom 21,472]

okay thank you @Dominikx4 @That Venice Bitch yeah i retract my earlier statement she’s not someone i would be proud to back  

[jimmyjimmycocoapuff 5,115]

14 hours ago, Mer said:

 

Omg I am currently living in Canada too (altho I am still a US citizen, and have a few more passports too ).

omg didn’t know u were a Canadian citizen?? First you’re not French, now you’re Canadian, the Mer lore continues to unravel 

[X8vinylScratchX 4,568]

If the Green party was serious, they would focus way more on local elections. Same with the Libertarian party. Running for the presidential election as a third party really is only good for attention and to spread your message, really a big advertisement. If they focus on races they can actually win then they would be growing their party way more in the long term. Jill Stein at this point running and losing every time with no hope to win is either out of vanity and likely worse literal attempted sabotage against the Democrats for the reasons laid out above.

[jaesana 3,597]

Harris wins. This is not 2016.

• In 2016, Trump was a nobody. People could project whatever they wanted onto him. Hillary didn't have that luxury.
• Democratic voter enthusiasm is nearly equivalent as it was to 2008, according to polls. Hillary had NO enthusiasm, plus the entire media apparatus was claiming she was going to win, so people felt they didn't need to vote.
• Women's rights are now overturned as a direct consequence of Trump's Supreme Court picks. Women are angry, even white women.

[X8vinylScratchX 4,568]

1 minute ago, jaesana said:

Women are angry, even white women

[Dark Angel 201,020]

10 hours ago, baddisease said:

So now I'm going to vote Kamala Harris and hate myself a fuckton.

 

i'm sorry but it's really not that serious  voting for her doesn't make you a bad person or change who you are or what your values are

[Mer 61,213]

10 minutes ago, jaesana said:

Harris wins. This is not 2016.

• In 2016, Trump was a nobody. People could project whatever they wanted onto him. Hillary didn't have that luxury.
• Democratic voter enthusiasm is nearly equivalent as it was to 2008, according to polls. Hillary had NO enthusiasm, plus the entire media apparatus was claiming she was going to win, so people felt they didn't need to vote.
• Women's rights are now overturned as a direct consequence of Trump's Supreme Court picks. Women are angry, even white women.

I want to believe but I just can’t let myself get excited 😭

[jaesana 3,597]

Just now, Dark Angel said:

 

i'm sorry but it's really not that serious  voting for her doesn't make you a bad person or change who you are or what your values are

 For a lot of people, especially Arab Americans, voting for someone who is part of a Zionist administration is a huge deal. What's the point of diminishing people's feelings about that?

[jaesana 3,597]

3 minutes ago, Mer said:

I want to believe but I just can’t let myself get excited 😭

I totally understand that! Anything can happen, there are no absolutes. It is hard to imagine America electing a woman of color.

[Embach 40,945]

19 minutes ago, jaesana said:

Harris wins. This is not 2016.

• In 2016, Trump was a nobody. People could project whatever they wanted onto him. Hillary didn't have that luxury.
• Democratic voter enthusiasm is nearly equivalent as it was to 2008, according to polls. Hillary had NO enthusiasm, plus the entire media apparatus was claiming she was going to win, so people felt they didn't need to vote.
• Women's rights are now overturned as a direct consequence of Trump's Supreme Court picks. Women are angry, even white women.

This is what I (want to) believe also.

 

I feel like it's going to be 2020 again rather than 2016.

 

I'm scared what the Trump cult fans are going to do if Kamala wins because we know what happened in early 2021.

[Barry 5,908]

21 minutes ago, jaesana said:

Harris wins. This is not 2016.

• In 2016, Trump was a nobody. People could project whatever they wanted onto him. Hillary didn't have that luxury.
• Democratic voter enthusiasm is nearly equivalent as it was to 2008, according to polls. Hillary had NO enthusiasm, plus the entire media apparatus was claiming she was going to win, so people felt they didn't need to vote.
• Women's rights are now overturned as a direct consequence of Trump's Supreme Court picks. Women are angry, even white women.

Plus he lost the last time as well against Biden who was half alive and nobody really liked either.

 

Only thing is it's against a woman again and he did beat a woman the last time, could be guys don't want to vote for women so they maybe get less votes than men would get.

[Embach 40,945]

Did anyone here actually vote for Trump? 💀 Or has voted for Trump in the past elections, I'm lowkey curious lol. 

 

I have a feeling that Strangelove voted for him because he seemed to be an actual fan of him or at least a Republican fan.

[Dark Angel 201,020]

17 minutes ago, jaesana said:

 For a lot of people, especially Arab Americans, voting for someone who is part of a Zionist administration is a huge deal. What's the point of diminishing people's feelings about that?

 

i suppose you are right, and i shouldn't be insensitive to that, but i don't believe anybody should feel any hatred towards themselves for voting for her, even if they don't personally agree with everything she does or stands for, especially when the only other option is trump

[palemoonbaby 14,997]

6 minutes ago, Embach said:

Did anyone here actually vote for Trump? 💀 Or has voted for Trump in the past elections, I'm lowkey curious lol. 

 

I have a feeling that Strangelove voted for him because he seemed to be an actual fan of him or at least a Republican fan.

 

probaly some banned members like blue font girl

[bluechemtrails 26,500]

I'm very confident because the Democrats have always won as they had a strong candidate and Kamala is doing very well. Trump's promises and lies will not be believed by so many because he already had his term and many know him better now.