Luigi Mangione charged with murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson

[ultrabanisters 45,829]

9 minutes ago, BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou said:

 It already feels like America is in slow collapse and I'm curious to see if this event could spark something. At the least it could get the conversation on class wars going. I personally think Luigi will go down as an American folk hero but that's just me. 

honestly the conversations around ethics of the shooting and it being an actual murder has been completely shadowed by the horny jail posts (honestly this thread being living proof) and it makes me wonder what the conversations would be like if he wasn't conventionally attractive

 

i know alot of people do not feel strongly about it anyway because you know... insurance company ceo... but seeing the entire conversation dominates by rail me posts is interesting (me lowk joining in)

 

i do not condone murder in any way shape or form but it does open up the class discussion in a good way. insurance companies are evil corporations and it’s about time people discussed it more

[Bettie Page 2,143]

His manifesto- https://archive.is/7jUsF

 

Edit-pretty sure it's fake

[ultrabanisters 45,829]

Just now, Bettie Page said:

His manifesto- https://archive.is/7jUsF

the spelling mistake in the first 3 sentences oh baby i am not reading that 

[ShadesOfFool 20,195]

Yeah he’s definitely fucking crazy 

[motel six 3,995]

“i will resist them at any cost” and they found him in mcdonald’s damn

[Beautiful Loser 49,411]

I don’t know… murder is always wrong. But I understand why people aren’t mad, the access to healthcare in the US seems to be… a joke sometimes. I saw a lady on social media yesterday describe how her mom had to visit Iran, a country she had fled from and is under heavy sanctions, to be able to afford cancer treatment… that’s insane.

[LemonadeTea 538]

I think he’s awesome tbh. I hope this sparks some sort of change in the USA but I honestly doubt it will.

[Mer 62,313]

Imagine your dad just got murdered and everyone wants to fuck his assassin openly 😭💀

[jaesana 3,663]

5 minutes ago, LemonadeTea said:

I think he’s awesome tbh. I hope this sparks some sort of change in the USA but I honestly doubt it will.

If the Democratic Party is smart (they aren’t ❤️) they will take note of the class temperature in the country and use it to actually run on POLICIES like Medicare for all, a single payer option.

 

and if they are too weak to do that, at least talk about how we are the only superpower on earth who has over 10 million Americans suffering MEDICAL DEBT. unheard of in other countries 

[Trash Magic 28,452]

25 minutes ago, Bettie Page said:

His manifesto- https://archive.is/7jUsF

Omg I wasn't really invested in this story but love this. A storyteller! 

[Dark Angel 203,099]

so many people here are, once again, going to take inspiration from their favorite musician...

 

 

[SinclairKills23 188]

9 minutes ago, jaesana said:

If the Democratic Party is smart (they aren’t ❤️) they will take note of the class temperature in the country and use it to actually run on POLICIES like Medicare for all, a single payer option.

 

and if they are too weak to do that, at least talk about how we are the only superpower on earth who has over 10 million Americans suffering MEDICAL DEBT. unheard of in other countries 

Like the Republicans are any better… 🙄 

 

As in what I think about all of this, I’m not surprised at all. The healthcare in the US is HORRIBLE. You have to basically pay for air, while you get free care almost anywhere else like Canada and the UK.

[Veinsineon 77,524]

i dont think that "manifesto" is real. The youtube account was fake, and it's very plausible people have been spreading fake "manifestos" as well.

 

The quotes all of the media has been using aren't even in the one linked above lol

[American Whore 51,613]

56 minutes ago, ultrabanisters said:

honestly the conversations around ethics of the shooting and it being an actual murder has been completely shadowed by the horny jail posts (honestly this thread being living proof) and it makes me wonder what the conversations would be like if he wasn't conventionally attractive

 

i know alot of people do not feel strongly about it anyway because you know... insurance company ceo... but seeing the entire conversation dominates by rail me posts is interesting (me lowk joining in)

 

i do not condone murder in any way shape or form but it does open up the class discussion in a good way. insurance companies are evil corporations and it’s about time people discussed it more

 

The conversation before yesterday was almost universally the same, which was mostly that we all thought it was deserved and something we celebrated. 

 

The conversation about murder is... grey. For example, let's say during the American slave era, a slave killed a slave "owner" (that term irks me.) Is that wrong? I don't think so, I'd think he got what he deserved. A lot of slave "owners" were rapists and murderers (at times directly, at other times, indirectly.) I think it comes down to intention and oppression. I think this type of murder is for the greater good, so it's justifiable the same way the French beheaded Marie Antionette. A burglar murdering a home owner is different because the home owner was minding their own business and not oppressing other people. In this case, the CEO was oppressing its own customers by denying claims that should've been cleared. Clearly, these aren't all exactly comparable, but it has similarities that I think help. 

[Make me your Dream Life 88,589]

 

[Deadly Nightshade 12,908]

Healthcare is a human right and nothing about that statement to me is political. It really saddens me that still today in the US free health care can be deemed by some as a "taboo" issue to talk about. 

[Veinsineon 77,524]

yeah its fake lol

 

[shadesofblue 16,471]

…..free him 

 

https://x.com/ldraddic/status/1866247643250164087?s=46&t=zffH_fE_49GPoWjNJ3lMZQ

https://x.com/dogvillc/status/1866503295092785569?s=46&t=zffH_fE_49GPoWjNJ3lMZQ

[Veinsineon 77,524]

interesting

 

 

 

apparently all of their familial wealth stems from healthcare and his family's nursing home is poor quality while they just bought a country club. he frequently volunteered there.

 

worth a watch

 

[IanadeIrey 62,135]

His online presence signals something very alt-right to me...yes, this increases class consciousness but it's also interesting to see someone as radicalized as him be the messenger. The irony, however, is that he's very pro-Elon.

 

If someone left-leaning did this, I don't think the current reception would be as widespread as it is. My takeaway is that certain conservatives needed someone on the right to be the mouthpiece for what is, frankly, a non-partisan issue (but gets treated as partisan). Hopefully this minimizes the scapegoating that certain conservatives do of BIPOC and trans communities. I imagine it's going to take this for people to realize what the true "enemy" is.