The Siren 30,521 Posted January 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: Wait this sounds messy https://melanie-martinez.fandom.com/wiki/3rd_Studio_Album Are her label delaying the album? She wants to make 2 more films about crybaby? mel hasnt always been concrete on dates, but she said we'd have the single in fall of 2022 but here we are halfway through winter in 2023 4 Quote Last.FM | Discogs | JOYRIDE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 14,012 Posted January 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: She wants to make 2 more films about crybaby? Yes, but much less of the childish themes since Cry Baby's grown up now. Melanie's been going for a more mythological inspired aesthetic for this record— which you can hear from the leaked tracks (involving dragons, fairies, sirens, etc). She wrote like 20+ songs with Kinetics & One Love in between Oct 2020-Apr 2021, but then pretty much everything leaked which was… disastrous to say the least. CJ Baran is the current main producer, whom she finished the final album with last year. 9 Quote wanna get to heaven, so let's get high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pop The Balloons 2,642 Posted January 23, 2023 I genuinely do not know what to say rn because I get more and more frustrated waiting for this album and it's like who's to blame here the label or the artist. I've given up hope at this point 3 Quote Jealousy's a disease bitch get well soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tana Mongeau 4,989 Posted January 23, 2023 Hi, me popping in. As someone who is a creative in the music sector, things can go through multiple changes, reworks or whatever else because a lot of us are perfectionists. Also after the final tracklist has been decided upon and the tracks have been mastered, there's a period which is at least 4 months long of gathering promotional assets for the album (music videos, photoshoots, behind the scenes content, ect.) Also if Melanie is planning to do vinyl as well, there's a fat ass delay on vinyl. Last article I read said that a band were waiting at least 8-10 months due to delays. Additionally you've got to account merch, and CD. If she's doing a film for this album, that too. So for all we know it could be right around the corner with no fault of her own, But some labels are very money hungry in the sense they'll refuse to fund something if they don't see it as profitable or commercially viable. So we just gotta keep waiting tbf, not much else you can do. Also @ the leakers stop being dicks and leaking tracks from her third album. You're slowing down the album's release, whether you realise it or not. Many artists and labels will scrap songs after they've been leaked 4 Quote what if the cockroaches have psychedelic pussy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, 132 said: Hi, me popping in. As someone who is a creative in the music sector, things can go through multiple changes, reworks or whatever else because a lot of us are perfectionists. Also after the final tracklist has been decided upon and the tracks have been mastered, there's a period which is at least 4 months long of gathering promotional assets for the album (music videos, photoshoots, behind the scenes content, ect.) Also if Melanie is planning to do vinyl as well, there's a fat ass delay on vinyl. Last article I read said that a band were waiting at least 8-10 months due to delays. Additionally you've got to account merch, and CD. If she's doing a film for this album, that too. So for all we know it could be right around the corner with no fault of her own, But some labels are very money hungry in the sense they'll refuse to fund something if they don't see it as profitable or commercially viable. So we just gotta keep waiting tbf, not much else you can do. Also @ the leakers stop being dicks and leaking tracks from her third album. You're slowing down the album's release, whether you realise it or not. Many artists and labels will scrap songs after they've been leaked I work within the Same creative field and I’ve never gotten the scrapping of songs especially if they’re a high quality.. from what I hear it’s mostly label pressure? But you’ve just invested in time and now you want to scrap it even though only 500 devoted fans have heard it likely? And you can still rework it? Dumb the best option is to do what Miley Cyrus did, ignore it and it worked for her-half of an album leaked a year before 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,558 Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, 132 said: Hi, me popping in. As someone who is a creative in the music sector, things can go through multiple changes, reworks or whatever else because a lot of us are perfectionists. Also after the final tracklist has been decided upon and the tracks have been mastered, there's a period which is at least 4 months long of gathering promotional assets for the album (music videos, photoshoots, behind the scenes content, ect.) Also if Melanie is planning to do vinyl as well, there's a fat ass delay on vinyl. Last article I read said that a band were waiting at least 8-10 months due to delays. Additionally you've got to account merch, and CD. If she's doing a film for this album, that too. So for all we know it could be right around the corner with no fault of her own, But some labels are very money hungry in the sense they'll refuse to fund something if they don't see it as profitable or commercially viable. So we just gotta keep waiting tbf, not much else you can do. Maybe except for the vinyl production, this rule is not precisely true to every artist out there (see: Charli XCX's how i'm feeling now, 2020) as it all depends on the vision of the artist combined with the label's schedules and plans as you mentioned, and some definitely take shorter periods (or some are relegated to, er, minor priorities? Labels can do artists dirty sometimes) BUT knowing Melanie, her big plans and her vision, I think this is probably the shortest it could take for her to do the whole album/era rollout. It's happened before. K-12 was put on hold for 2 full years (it was finished in 2017) because of the film. With her I know there's no other way, her vision is too ambitious, and it usually takes her long time. To be honest, I don't think we'll get new material for the next 12-15 months. 7 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tana Mongeau 4,989 Posted January 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: I work within the Same creative field and I’ve never gotten the scrapping of songs especially if they’re a high quality.. from what I hear it’s mostly label pressure? But you’ve just invested in time and now you want to scrap it even though only 500 devoted fans have heard it likely? And you can still rework it? Dumb the best option is to do what Miley Cyrus did, ignore it and it worked for her-half of an album leaked a year before no because kinda same 3 Quote what if the cockroaches have psychedelic pussy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildChild 773 Posted January 23, 2023 The MM3 tracks leaking early wasn't even maliciously done. I'm not sure why everyone is acting as if people leaked it specifically to hurt Melanie and delay the album. K&OL were hacked and the files mass-spread. There's really nothing more to it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoochieSwirlC 2,065 Posted January 24, 2023 imagine if she pulls a Beyonce 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sucker 7,912 Posted January 24, 2023 if Sirens isn't on this album though....... 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonymcomenter 4,675 Posted January 24, 2023 Honestly, her songs are getting worse and worse… I understand she is trying focus In the lyrical content but Not at the expence of Not giving us new melodies or anything exciting like she did in Crybaby… always the same trap beats that seem fanmade with her wording lyrics in a not so appealing way… I Dont know… I honestly Dont mind the child like themes getting old, but that same kind of production and delivery every single time… the only latter songs I enjoy are Dragons Blood, Tunnel Vision, Garden And Void! After School was horrible and the outtakes are even worse (Maybe function has some potencial as It is a little bit different) Im not trying to hate on her (she once was my favourite artist) but I think this is pretty much related with her not wanting to work with other producers or co-writters! Like she doesnt accept any kind of suggestions… But thats just my guess knowing how stubborn and control freak she can be. She also could have had some kind of help directing the movie and it may not be such a mess… her ideas are good And I do appreciate her vision but sometimes she needs expert help to execute them… like the movie feels like something a 8 year old would write with so many plot holes And 0 sense. Visually Its stunning but lacks so much story and Its so cringey yet she is still trying to push that idea again to the record company to make more movies! I understand she wants to put her vision out there the way she wants, But sometimes artists need to also compromise and meet the needs of Their fans course they are the main source of money and support they have! She made excelent music videos based on outfits, aesthetic and storyline but bigger projects is were she looses coherence On another note unpopular opinion but I hate Class Fight and love Drama Club! I think Im the only one 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Siren 30,521 Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Anonymcomenter said: On another note unpopular opinion but I hate Class Fight and love Drama Club! I think Im the only one the only song i hate on k-12 is orange juice, but i still bop to it when it comes on 1 Quote Last.FM | Discogs | JOYRIDE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star Iux 5,983 Posted January 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, Anonymcomenter said: Honestly, her songs are getting worse and worse… I understand she is trying focus In the lyrical content but Not at the expence of Not giving us new melodies or anything exciting like she did in Crybaby… always the same trap beats that seem fanmade with her wording lyrics in a not so appealing way… I Dont know… I honestly Dont mind the child like themes getting old, but that same kind of production and delivery every single time… the only latter songs I enjoy are Dragons Blood, Tunnel Vision, Garden And Void! You spilled. It's so weird to think I used to be a huge fan of her, I was excited for MM3 but clearly Melanie no longer wants to put any effort into her music. I don't think majority of the themes she used previously work outside of the 2010s, her music is just the same thing over and over again but progressively getting worse. I don't think she even wants to put out music anymore. 2 Quote ︵‿୨ ♱ I talk to Jesus / And ask him if he'll think of saving me ♱ ୧‿︵ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonymcomenter 4,675 Posted January 24, 2023 Its crazy to think how much cuality she has lost in this last projects! Like any outtake from Crybaby like Jumprope, Arts & Craft, Bombs on Monday Morning or WDBCF is ten times better than anything that has been put out or leaked lately! Much more original and polished K-12 takes so much shit but it has great moments like Show & Tell, Nurces Office, Drama Club, Lunchbox Friends or Detention with some horrible songs like Class Fight, Strawberry Shortcake or Recess 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildChild 773 Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, The Siren said: the only song i hate on k-12 is orange juice, but i still bop to it when it comes on literally same. Orange Juice just isn't something we can vibe to (unless you're going through an ED) which Idk why you'd wanna bop out thinking about bulimia. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildChild 773 Posted January 24, 2023 Top 5 K-12: Drama Club Lunchbox Friends Recess Strawberry Shortcake Teacher's Pet 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dollanganger 5,104 Posted January 24, 2023 happy anniversary i guess 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavensentslut 4,187 Posted January 24, 2023 18 hours ago, Coloringbooks said: Yes, but much less of the childish themes since Cry Baby's grown up now. Melanie's been going for a more mythological inspired aesthetic for this record— which you can hear from the leaked tracks (involving dragons, fairies, sirens, etc). She wrote like 20+ songs with Kinetics & One Love in between Oct 2020-Apr 2021, but then pretty much everything leaked which was… disastrous to say the least. CJ Baran is the current main producer, whom she finished the final album with last year. OMG MARS ARGO X MM when 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 24, 2023 I couldn’t listen to any k12 tbh, it sounds really cheap to me-like the production sounded worse than crybaby oddly and I don’t think decent beats are difficult enough to make yourself so….. honestly barring personal feelings(apologies crybabies)-a song like this would have helped Melanie’s career to progress from cry baby. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavensentslut 4,187 Posted January 24, 2023 ok but where's that tracker/masterpost guys 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites