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Been avoiding this thread since oct 8. Honestly, seeing the compassion towards Hamas is terrifying. 
I feel for the Palestinian people. I wish for peace, I really do. There were missteps along the way from both sides, but as the latest events unfold i just can’t understand how some people can, on behalf of truly innocent and oppressed communities - support a terror organization and nightmarish terror attacks on civilians. Saying captives were enjoying their time in the strip. Remind you, these children that were freed the last days (by a ceasefire deal which I support) - these children SAW THEIR PARENTS MURDERED INFRONT OF THEIR EYES. Abigail Idan, celebrated her 4th birthday in captivity, came back home last night only to find out both her parents were murdered and burned. 
Airstrikes are not fair nor accurate. War is never fair or accurate. But Oct 7th was very accurate. The terrorists knew the communities and towns they went into. They planned beforehand how to rape them, behead them and burned them. They went into homes, one by one, burned them on the families they couldn’t kill right away.
Hell, they filmed it all on tape themselves! They were proud of it!
oct 7th was not resistance. it was a deliberate attack on innocent families, elderly, holocaust survivors, 3-month-old babies.  THESE are the people Hamas abducted. How can ANYONE with a functioning soul defend this to the slightest??
the “march of return” was not resistance. It was a terror campaign, burning tires on the border to suffocate civilians living nearby, firing rockets at population centers and sending flying explosives to burn fields, homes, schools and nature reserves. 
 
This post came out to be longer than I thought and I barely have any hope that the consequences will be any other than non-beneficial name-calling and automatic earplugging. I fear that as a society we lost the ability to actually hear out other perspectives. 
 
my message is just don’t be one sided. War is never fair and it applies to both sides, especially the side who deliberately stared it on October 7th knowing very well what this action will lead to. 

Sorry, there’s nothing to reveal. I just don’t know how to post

Seeing a lot of privileged Europeans and Americans talking s*** and judging my country (and Jews), thinking that they know every single thing about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is WILD.
While a lot of you read their news straight from influencers' instagram stories or from TikTok, yet I'm the one living here, in this situation, for 20+ years.
 
Let's clear some misconceptions/ignorant things I've read here:
Most Jews in Israel aren't white - a lot of us are Middle Eastern (including myself), so we literally got nowhere to go (my ancestors' countries ethnically cleansed all the Jewish people living there). Most Israelis want PEACE and believed in the two states solution (unfortunately some stopped believing in it since October 7th), and don't agree with our goverment's actions (I personally protested against the government several times the past year) Israel don't have any official responsibility for giving aid to Palestine (yet we've been doing that) Some of you seem to forget/ignore - HAMAS IS A TERRORIST GROUP, WHO MURDER THEIR OWN PEOPLE! on October 7th, they k*lled Muslim Bedouins as well! about the quote "Cease fire in Gaza" - every single time that there is a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine, Hamas is the one that breaks it, exactly like they did with the terrible massacre on October 7th The quote "From the river to the sea" = the erasure of Israel & the Jewish people living here (again, most of us don't have second citizenships, we literally got nowhere else to live in) Palestine got free in 2005 "In 2005, Israelis of the Gush Katif Israeli settlements were evacuated as part of Israel's unilateral disengagement plan, and all Israeli restrictions on internal movements ceased". Unfortunately Hamas got elected in 2007... About some comments of IDF soldiers on videos - as a former IDF soldier myself, I'd NEVER support hurting of innocent civilians! Most Israelis don't! (except crazy right-winged people) The Palestinians that are in Israelis prisons right now - are terrorists who tried to commit murders/bombings. Israel don't imprison innocent civilians, just like any other country don't. One last thing - the word "Zionist" is being used as a slur in the past month, and it's 
Zionism = the belief that Jews needs a country. after the rise of antisemitism we're seeing going on in the world, proofs why we need a country.
 
I want to thank you if you took the time to read my comment. I still have hope we'll be able to live alongside Palestine peacefully.
May Palestine be free from Hamas, and we'll be free from Netanyahu.

Yesterday, Lana Del Rey stopped to meet a fan while out shopping at South Coast Plaza mall in Costa Mesa, California.

Lana Del Rey covers Harper's Bazaar December 2023/January 2024 Art Issue, photographed by Collier Schorr.
See full photoshoot
Read full interview


 
 
 
 
 

Her story… what does it mean… x
 

The US has bases in many Middle Eastern countries, not just Israel, and other countries like Saudi Arabia have already said they are still going to normalize relations with Israel. American aid is important but mostly when it comes to diplomacy, their aid only represents 1% of the Israeli GDP. A ceasefire now would be the same as losing, they'll only stop when they reach their goals, no international pressure is going to make them stop

Lana Del Rey has been nominated for the 2024 Grammy Awards in 5 categories.
The awards ceremony will take place on February 4th, 2024 at the Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles, California.

Her nominations include:
Album of the Year - Did you know that there’s a tunnel under Ocean Blvd
Best Alternative Music Album - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd
Song of the Year - A&W
Best Alternative Music Performance - A&W
Best Pop Duo/Group Performance - Candy Necklace
 

I see the 3 covers as topically different. The first is obviously humorous and sluttishly nostalgic (I think she's done stuff like this before). The second is very harsh mistress, and, to me, looks a lot like Christina Applegate. I had hoped the "sounds beautiful" in the caption meant an NFR reference was incoming; instead she at least is posed singing in the last photo (?). The third cover I would guess is mystical and she looks a little bit like Sophia Loren (way back when, of course).
 
As for the new poem, I like it relatively more too, as it gets more clearly inside her head (if poems are less excusable as fictional stances than songs are). And it is a bleak head. We all know the path Plath took, yet it is better than the other path (which seems to resurface at the end of the poem). But is Mt. Rushmore fame worth a warm embrace, which seems elusive for LDR? And why can't she get it?  I mean does fame preclude such? And if it doesn't, then what hope is there for an ordinary sophont (which makes the poem pretty depressing, imo). I really wish her music sustained her more (as it does her fans). Maybe we'll find out if it can, when she starts touring.

If you don't read too much into it, the letter is only about advocating for the release of the hostages, which isn't wrong. However, this doesn't  mean that the signatories aren't also on the side of the Palestinians or that they support the bombings of Israel, especially since peaceful coexistence is also mentioned.

This is a crazy comparison what 

I was looking for that letter and I found it and I put this one here in comparsion with the one where Lana signed:
 
The letter where they're thanking Biden:


It seems like Lana, Madonna, Katy Perry, Rita Ora and Regina Spektor are the only singers here who have thanked Biden, the others seem to be actors and models and others I don't know. 

The letter where they're calling Biden out:


And here the only singers seem to be Dua Lipa, Caroline Polachek, Kehlani, Miguel and Macklemore. Others are again actors and other entertainers. 

I don't know if someone mentioned it before, but she also left a comment on stereogum insta post 
 
https://www.stereogum.com/2239796/lana-del-rey-joins-holly-macve-on-new-song-suburban-house/music/
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CyjvW2Vsd2J/?igshid=NjIwNzIyMDk2Mg==
 
"That is true, my uncle was able to get me in without me even knowing that I was going, my mother worked in special education, and my dad made furniture and was a real estate agent. When he got into domains what he bought wasn’t worth anything until I was at least 22 and even then just because he bought them it didn’t mean that he could sell them. It wasn’t even until the last seven years that some of the words he bought became slightly more valuable. there were fights in the house constantly over money, and who would have to work two jobs to make enough. If you speak to anyone from that part of that private school or college, they wouldn’t even be able to tell you anything about me because no one spoke to me at either college or high school. The only friends I had were at my local public school that I left when I was 15." 
 
and she replied to another comments
 

I think part of the problem is that a lot of people don't realise that one of the differences between being rich and being poor, is that if you're rich, you're always rich, but if you're poor/not rich, then some months you'll have money, and some months you won't have any money, so if you aren't taught how to handle your spending (which unfortunately is extremely common among those lower than upper-middle-class), when you have any money, there's a good chance you're spending it on things/experiences that someone looking on and judging you might assess as being frivolous. Every part of Lana's story checks out if you remember that she grew up in the 80s/90s, not the 1930s (when poor meant you never had anything).

Good for her for standing up for herself. I remember she said a couple of years ago that she was never going to let anyone try to rewrite her story for her, and I love that sentiment. I think it's something important everyone should stand by x
 
I also wrote out a full transcript of her video for anyone who wants to read it - 
 
"I wanna make this video really short and sweet just ‘cause the conversation keeps coming up about me coming from money, and my family having money, and this whole thing. I just want to say, like, coming from the most rural spot inarguably in one of the most rural spots of America that was not a wealthy town and having gone to a boarding school where I didn’t even know I was going or didn’t have any concept of and got financial aid for because my uncle worked in the administrative building and also being completely alienated from all the kids who already knew each other from New York City. I had such a tough time there because everyone knew how much money everyone had. So, unfortunately, my experience every day was having people call me WT from LP - White Trash from Lake Placid. So, I’m just saying this constant narrative when my parents were arguing about money every single day, and my dad working as a woodworker and in real estate and my mom working in education. Like, although he bought domain names later on, it doesn’t mean that they were worth anything until more recently. So, he was eccentric and amazing and ahead of his time in terms of what he was doing, but it doesn’t mean there was any money for us or to be made at the time. So, I didn’t even have any experience having anything until I was 26 and made my own money. I was living in a hostel on 17th St when I played Saturday Night Live, and how I played Saturday Night Live was because I’d gotten a publishing deal in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and the guest territories. So, it’s just very challenging because I think had we had money I would have had a completely different experience and not fought so hard to be a singer probably to my detriment because I didn’t want me or my family to struggle financially. Like, the music that comes from me comes from a place at that time of concern that we would not have money. That’s the experience that I know. I didn’t know anyone who had money until I went to a private school where I couldn’t even make any friends except my roommate Christina and a couple girls - Annie and Jen who accepted me and were cool. But, you know, you can’t even find anyone from those schools who knew me because they wouldn’t talk to me. So, to say that, you know, this is the narrative, it’s just important that you know it’s not. It’s not like it was fun living in the trailer park necessarily. I signed my life away, ten records for $10,000 to 5 Points Records that Ben got me out of and I made that stretch for a year and one month by getting to stay at the Manhattan RV Mobile Home in North Bergen. It’s not a shtick. It’s not like it was some glamourous getaway. Like, I really didn’t know what to do and depended on the boyfriends that I had to let me stay with them all that while up until 26. You can ask Steven Mertens. You can ask Josh Kemp. Like, I didn’t have a chance hardly. All of the cards were stacked against me other than my voice, and my parents didn’t even know I was singing until I was on Saturday Night Live. So, why this is important is just because it’s not my truth. I would have no idea what it felt like to grow up with anything other than hearing fighting about money, and even on our monthly, like, spring break vacation every year we drove to Daytona, not flew ‘cause it was too expensive. So, I had a challenging experience all the way through, and to make it even more challenging, now I don’t even get to have my authentic story told so that the music can be listened to and interpreted in a clear manner. So, that’s my spiel. You know, it’s been going on for 13 years now. It’s just it’s so sad that I can’t own coming from, like, this beautiful rural mountain town where the character of people is completely different from anywhere I went afterwards. It’s actually disrespectful to me and to my town where we worked so hard and where I myself worked four jobs. I had a time just to even be like — if you wanna know, why don’t you go to my local town? Why don’t you ask them? Like, they knew I got sent away. They knew it was on financial aid. There’s no fact that checks out, like, that it wasn’t. So, it just sucks to have to explain myself over and over again, because if that was the story I knew, I would love to tell it. I wish it was honestly. Things would have been so much better."

Lana... if you're reading this.... I know one way you can tell your story the way it truly happened....
WRITE THAT MEMOIR BABYYYYYYYYY WE BEEN WAITING 

Literally insane that 10+ years later shes still having to explain herself…
 
On a side note about the 5 points records thing where she says she signed her life away - they wanted her to make 10 albums for $10,000 before Ben got her out of it??
 
I remember someone here also pointing out how that photoshoot chuck did of her with the american flag after she got out of that deal was basically a freedom statement  I never realized how bad it was

https://youtu.be/gRvkgtQOhVY?si=nQr2ewlNbdL9gbaG
just click on it, my lanaboards is still broken

rob did become successful at some point, with the domain thing and stuff. but he never bought lana a career, people fail miserably to understand that
if anything, her uncle helped her more with her career by teaching her the guitar chords

Some shots of her after she left the event -
 

There's a thread for him, and it's always great when you bump an artist's thread that you like, as it's shoots up in the queue. Maybe one of those mythical "mods" (sounds like gods, lol) can move this thread there.   Here's a link to the 1st post.
http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/3709-nightmare-boy-barrie-james-oneill/?p=134928   He's had a couple of band names and seems to go by just Barrie James now (I wish he would have stuck with Nightmare Boy as that's "iconic"?). Magic Me also appears in Scumbag, his big performance music video, I think, so it's an older song, along with Art of Horror (which is also on PS, and also on Scumbag?). PS is a very solid album, imo, but I wish (selfishly) he were more prolific.

So Barrie's back (going by the artist name "Barrie-James" these days?). Psychedelic Soup is on spotify (and on sale in the usual places). While I can't say he's better than ever, he's still (much) more interesting than most. I would call it lo-fi jazz/grunge/funk in his characteristic downbeat, funky, morbid, and still-hung-up-on-the-past style (I have no problem with that; it's understandable and topically common in singer-songwriter pop). My biggest complaint is not being able to make out a lot of the lyrics, and he has an excellent Frank Sinatra cover (with the Dan Fontaine Orchestra, also on spotify), so I know he can sing clearly. I hope he posts the lyrics at some point (as he did with Float on youtube).
 
A secondary complaint is the chopped up (as in shorter songs) nature of the tracklist, which I realize is a commercial benefit in terms of stream revenue and "radiobility". However, the interludes might have been glommed onto their following songs to make for longer (more complex/unpredictable) tracks, and some sequences do seem part of a larger multi-movemented work (e.g. funky, float, and free like a bird, might have been a prog masterpiece if they were stitched together properly). I think Cold Coffee did this more rationally (i.e. glomming interludes/outros onto songs). I'd also like to see more prolonged instrumental work from Barrie in the future, as some of his interludes were interesting (e.g. Moonroom sounds kind of like U.K., the prog-Brit band, in the beginning).

Is there a video of VB? 
 
 

The dancers are cute but she needs to bring back the string quartet