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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Damn, I have mad respect for your investigative skills. Like if I was Lana, I would be low-key freaked out lol.
As for the New Jersey thing, if I remember right, she said in the interview she did at the trailer park that she moved in there around October 2007 and moved out October 2008? Let me double check. (She says she stayed there until "late August" of 2008, so October 2007-August 2008). The interview took place in November 2008, at which point she had moved out, which is why they weren't able to go inside her place during the interview.
To address one of your questions about living in New Jersey....k, this might sound like a little conspiracy theorist or whatever, but what if Lana literally never lived in the trailer park and just did a filmed interview? Like she just found a random trailer park the day before the interview and everyone at the trailer park was just watching through their blinds at some random blonde woman with a camera crew walking around the park naming random people (here's where Dixie lives, etc.) and talking about where she supposedly lived and the garden she planted and the general community and making up everything as the interview went on.
I mean, I don't want to call her a liar, and I know she's gotten a lot of unfair shit about making up her backstory from the press just because of her looks and assumptions about her family and just a whole bunch of other bullshit, and I don't want to fuel that, but I would also find it low-key hilarious if she did this just for an interview.
But that would take a little bit of commitment on her part, especially since she's not only referenced the trailer park so many times in her work and interviews, but even as recently as 2017 (I forget which interview) was able to be fairly specific about where the trailer park was.
idk...this might be too much of a stretch. do we have any other photographic evidence of her actually in the trailer park (and not just walking around the park like she does in the interview)?
Also, it seems strange that Chuck wouldn't have lived with her during this time? According to them, didn't they say they shared an apartment while going to college together? Chuck went to Parsons, Lana was in Fordham, and they shared an apartment (though obviously Lana graduated first). So why would Lana suddenly go move in to a trailer park for 10 months? I mean, she (Lana) got a $10,000 advance for her record, which she said she used to move to Jersey. It just seems...really random, especially since her sister probably was still living in New York and it would make more sense for them to stay and split costs? Especially since it seems like they've spent a good amount of their adult years living together, and NY is notoriously expensive particularly for young people without a lot of money who can't afford cocoa puffs (according to Lana)? Unless they just wanted personal space or something?
Am I reading way too much into this?
I might be a little drunk, just sayin.
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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Okay, this might just be my paranoid little ass finding things that aren't even there, but going through the interview again, I picked up on some things that just felt a little weird to me.
*Early in the interview, Lana mentions that one of the neighbor's/resident's name is Dixie (this is the trailer with the crime tape around it). She seems to like Dixie or had some type of bond or something. A little later on, there's a cat that comes out. Lana says that the cat might belong to Dixie and might be named Meredith, but isn't exactly sure who the cat is. Not a huge thing, just seems weird if you lived somewhere for close to a year but weren't able to identify your friend's cat (unless there are a lot of cats there that look the same or something)?
*Throughout the interview, Lana talks a lot about how much of a community the place was and kind of insinuates that everyone was a family, but when pressed (multiple times) by the interviewer about any of the residents, the only 2 people Lana mentions is Dixie and Lana's next door neighbor. When asked what the neighbor's name was, she says that they (lana and this neighbor) gave each other a new name every time they saw each other (what? lol) but eventually says the neighbor's name is/was Manuel. She also does say she was in a gardening competition with "the guy who owns the red car" (there is a red car in the distance) but doesn't give a name or really any further details about either this man or any other resident.
*During the interview, they pass 3 people (assuming residents, since they are all getting in their cars, but could also be friends/partners of residents, etc.). All of them seem to give Lana a weird look, like "who the fuck is this girl?" Again, they may not even be residents, and even if they were and Lana lived there, they could be new as it was supposedly 3 months roughly since Lana last lived there, but I was kind of expecting at least one person to give some sort of "hey Lizzy/Lana" or something. The last people they encounter (who seem to be parked fairly close, if not right next, to where Lana's former neighbor lived) seem to make Lana particularly uncomfortable and she kind of mumbles an apologetic "sorry" --again, maybe she just feels weird with the camera crew, but it definitely doesn't seem to be anyone she is familiar with.
*When the interviewer asks (several times) why Lana wanted to move to a trailer park, Lana isn't really able to give any definitive answer. I think the closest thing she says (if I'm hearing correctly) is that she always knew she was going to try to end up here or something like that. And she talks at least once if not a few times about it being a space of her own, so Chuck is definitely not in the picture at this point (even though I think she describes the trailer as having 2 bedrooms?).
*Speaking of Chuck though and where Lana/Chuck were living, Lana says that before the trailer park she was living with Steven Mertens. (So again, if she was living with Steven, where was Chuck living? With Steven too?) It sounds like Steven encouraged her to live in the trailer park (didn't they break up around this time, which would make sense why she would move?).
*Lana says that the album was recorded in 3 months (so October 2007 to January 2008 roughly, by her timeline) from 3 to 3 each day (I'm assuming 3 PM to 3 AM). And the rest of her time she was in her room drinking pink lemonade (lol I love Lana) and listening to The Beach Boys, etc. But in an interview she gave with Courtney Love this year (or technically last year, 2017), Lana says she was still in school at this time? Also, probably minor detail, but if the sessions ended at 3 AM, and the transit that she says she took back to Jersey (the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail) doesn't seem to operate until at least 5 AM, what would she do between 3 and 5 AM in new york?
*Lana says she wants to return to this park, but the reason she left was because it got too expensive because she didn't have any other job besides singing, so she moved to Manhattan (which at first is like what the fuck, how would Manhattan be any less expensive than a trailer park in New Jersey), but Lana seems to insinuate she moved out to sleep on people's couches ("and now I just live with everyone" is I think what she says, but the audio is hard to hear). So again, where was Chuck during all this?
*The name of the lady who rented out the trailer is Meredith (Meredith is also apparently the name of the cat Lana finds during the interview). Lana makes it seem like she was instantly sold on this park as soon as she found Meredith's listing (assuming online), but a little before that, Lana says she wanted to live in a trailer park that was closer to NYC (she wanted Liberty Harbor RV Park but wasn't able to find it on the map) and her current trailer park was the second-closest to nyc.
*And going back to the Courtney interview (and this is really stretching it, but I'll just include it anyway), Lana talked about how she felt the interview was embarrassing looking back on it. When I initially read that, I kind of thought that she meant because it wasn't the most professional (in terms of like a camera crew just randomly following her around, there didn't seem to be any really pre-planned questions, etc.) and how since she had clearly evolved stylistically/artistically since then, maybe she didn't want to revisit old times or whatever. And that could still be it. But I also wonder, under the context of my suspicious mind, if maybe the whole trailer park image so to speak was more fabricated than she wanted to admit, like maybe she probably did feel a certain connection to Americana-influences, but maybe wasn't actually living in an actual trailer park and so the whole "here's my former home" interview might be kind of cringey to her in hindsight. I mean, she's incredibly engaging and charming throughout the whole interview (the video one), but there definitely feels like she's not being totally sincere with all of her answers (and I kind of feel like the interviewer picks up on that a bit, but that could just be me).
Again, none of these really weak examples/points prove anything either way, I just find it interesting. I feel like Lana is one of the only artists where the more I look into her life, the less I feel I know about her. And to her credit, she was able to give a fair amount of detail about her living arrangements/furniture, the exact amount of rent ($525 per month), the padlocks not working, etc., so if she did make all that up on the spot, it would be pretty impressive.
At the same time, it also doesn't help that she's admitted to fucking with journalists in the past just for the sake of it, so at the end of the day, who the hell really knows. There is an endless mystery to her.
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jellyfish liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Unpopular Lana Opinions
"I got left at the alter but watch me pop my pussy" would be a pretty iconic title, though.
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Taco Truck x VB liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Okay, this might just be my paranoid little ass finding things that aren't even there, but going through the interview again, I picked up on some things that just felt a little weird to me.
*Early in the interview, Lana mentions that one of the neighbor's/resident's name is Dixie (this is the trailer with the crime tape around it). She seems to like Dixie or had some type of bond or something. A little later on, there's a cat that comes out. Lana says that the cat might belong to Dixie and might be named Meredith, but isn't exactly sure who the cat is. Not a huge thing, just seems weird if you lived somewhere for close to a year but weren't able to identify your friend's cat (unless there are a lot of cats there that look the same or something)?
*Throughout the interview, Lana talks a lot about how much of a community the place was and kind of insinuates that everyone was a family, but when pressed (multiple times) by the interviewer about any of the residents, the only 2 people Lana mentions is Dixie and Lana's next door neighbor. When asked what the neighbor's name was, she says that they (lana and this neighbor) gave each other a new name every time they saw each other (what? lol) but eventually says the neighbor's name is/was Manuel. She also does say she was in a gardening competition with "the guy who owns the red car" (there is a red car in the distance) but doesn't give a name or really any further details about either this man or any other resident.
*During the interview, they pass 3 people (assuming residents, since they are all getting in their cars, but could also be friends/partners of residents, etc.). All of them seem to give Lana a weird look, like "who the fuck is this girl?" Again, they may not even be residents, and even if they were and Lana lived there, they could be new as it was supposedly 3 months roughly since Lana last lived there, but I was kind of expecting at least one person to give some sort of "hey Lizzy/Lana" or something. The last people they encounter (who seem to be parked fairly close, if not right next, to where Lana's former neighbor lived) seem to make Lana particularly uncomfortable and she kind of mumbles an apologetic "sorry" --again, maybe she just feels weird with the camera crew, but it definitely doesn't seem to be anyone she is familiar with.
*When the interviewer asks (several times) why Lana wanted to move to a trailer park, Lana isn't really able to give any definitive answer. I think the closest thing she says (if I'm hearing correctly) is that she always knew she was going to try to end up here or something like that. And she talks at least once if not a few times about it being a space of her own, so Chuck is definitely not in the picture at this point (even though I think she describes the trailer as having 2 bedrooms?).
*Speaking of Chuck though and where Lana/Chuck were living, Lana says that before the trailer park she was living with Steven Mertens. (So again, if she was living with Steven, where was Chuck living? With Steven too?) It sounds like Steven encouraged her to live in the trailer park (didn't they break up around this time, which would make sense why she would move?).
*Lana says that the album was recorded in 3 months (so October 2007 to January 2008 roughly, by her timeline) from 3 to 3 each day (I'm assuming 3 PM to 3 AM). And the rest of her time she was in her room drinking pink lemonade (lol I love Lana) and listening to The Beach Boys, etc. But in an interview she gave with Courtney Love this year (or technically last year, 2017), Lana says she was still in school at this time? Also, probably minor detail, but if the sessions ended at 3 AM, and the transit that she says she took back to Jersey (the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail) doesn't seem to operate until at least 5 AM, what would she do between 3 and 5 AM in new york?
*Lana says she wants to return to this park, but the reason she left was because it got too expensive because she didn't have any other job besides singing, so she moved to Manhattan (which at first is like what the fuck, how would Manhattan be any less expensive than a trailer park in New Jersey), but Lana seems to insinuate she moved out to sleep on people's couches ("and now I just live with everyone" is I think what she says, but the audio is hard to hear). So again, where was Chuck during all this?
*The name of the lady who rented out the trailer is Meredith (Meredith is also apparently the name of the cat Lana finds during the interview). Lana makes it seem like she was instantly sold on this park as soon as she found Meredith's listing (assuming online), but a little before that, Lana says she wanted to live in a trailer park that was closer to NYC (she wanted Liberty Harbor RV Park but wasn't able to find it on the map) and her current trailer park was the second-closest to nyc.
*And going back to the Courtney interview (and this is really stretching it, but I'll just include it anyway), Lana talked about how she felt the interview was embarrassing looking back on it. When I initially read that, I kind of thought that she meant because it wasn't the most professional (in terms of like a camera crew just randomly following her around, there didn't seem to be any really pre-planned questions, etc.) and how since she had clearly evolved stylistically/artistically since then, maybe she didn't want to revisit old times or whatever. And that could still be it. But I also wonder, under the context of my suspicious mind, if maybe the whole trailer park image so to speak was more fabricated than she wanted to admit, like maybe she probably did feel a certain connection to Americana-influences, but maybe wasn't actually living in an actual trailer park and so the whole "here's my former home" interview might be kind of cringey to her in hindsight. I mean, she's incredibly engaging and charming throughout the whole interview (the video one), but there definitely feels like she's not being totally sincere with all of her answers (and I kind of feel like the interviewer picks up on that a bit, but that could just be me).
Again, none of these really weak examples/points prove anything either way, I just find it interesting. I feel like Lana is one of the only artists where the more I look into her life, the less I feel I know about her. And to her credit, she was able to give a fair amount of detail about her living arrangements/furniture, the exact amount of rent ($525 per month), the padlocks not working, etc., so if she did make all that up on the spot, it would be pretty impressive.
At the same time, it also doesn't help that she's admitted to fucking with journalists in the past just for the sake of it, so at the end of the day, who the hell really knows. There is an endless mystery to her.
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Taco Truck x VB liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
This is why I'm on LanaBoards, tbh.
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caitlyn valliulina liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
This is why I'm on LanaBoards, tbh.
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bluechemtrails liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Does Lana know about LanaBoards?
She's definitely been on this board because she knows the shit we say about her and that's why she loves mentally torturing us and delaying releases, keeping us in the dark, etc. At least half of the drawn out NFR pre-release period was just a fuck you from Lana to us because she read what we were saying about Lust for Life lol.
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LilyBrik liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Does Lana know about LanaBoards?
She's definitely been on this board because she knows the shit we say about her and that's why she loves mentally torturing us and delaying releases, keeping us in the dark, etc. At least half of the drawn out NFR pre-release period was just a fuck you from Lana to us because she read what we were saying about Lust for Life lol.
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by Elle in Lana Del Rey covers Rolling Stone Germany - April 2021
Lana Del Rey graces the cover of the April 2021 edition of Rolling Stone Germany magazine.
To order this issue, shop here.
Article & Interview (Translated from German)
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by IanadeIrey in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Since we know this album has been in the works since at least ~late spring/summer 2020, I feel like we can kind of speculate the sound based on what Lana was doing.
I remember her listening to a lot of the artists she brought as guests on the NFR tour, and that obviously informed the Midwestern feel of Chemtrails. Of course, the Joni references on the album came from her covering For Free on tour and her just being a fan in general.
Knowing that Dealer is a “screamer”, I remember in August 2020 she posted to her IG stories a video of her listening to “Dazed and Confused” by Led Zeppelin in her car. That video was actually taken in early July of 2020 (based on her lash extensions/nails/hairstyle) so I wonder if that was when she started actively working on this record, as we know she had finished Chemtrails that summer anyways.
I think we may be getting an album with lots of electric guitar and classic country-rock elements. When I first heard Lana’s description of Dealer I actually thought of that video she posted of her listening to Dazed and Confused by Led Zeppelin! I would love a guitar-driven album with lots of cool riffs and looser, twangier vocals.
Maybe the “louder” songs resembling Dazed and Confused and the “softer” songs being like Stairway to Heaven, Tangerine, or Going to California by Led Zeppelin? All with a really sultry, bluesy output in the vein of Bobbie Gentry - who Lana mentioned as an inspiration to Music Week this month.
excited!
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floridakilosxx liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
See you all in two years when this album actually gets released (and occasionally checking in for the 900 times she's going to say it's coming next week and LB has a meltdown)
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by American Whore in LDR Village at Melrose Trading Post - Sunday: March 21st, 2021
Holy shit Lana knows about LB confirmed holy fuck. i'm shook to the goddamn core
so who is she on here.....
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by Yosemite in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
I just quoted one of her tweets; really want her to reply bc like, apart from some stuff that could be considered cultural appropriation, there's a shitload of stuff she said that was mostly her making shit up and trying to find problems where there wasn't any to begin with.
I still remember vividly that she said Lana failed to mention gentrification on her song Brooklyn Baby. That's one of the many examples where I was like, is she serious?
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by lannisterpussy in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
2017 lana: critics can be so mean sometimes :’(
2020 - 2021 lana: fuck you i want revenge >:(
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by theviolence in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
This is her villain arc, one she's been building up to for a long time. Ramble incoming
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by onlygirlonearth in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
I’m expecting a 4000+ page pre-release thread
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pawn shop blues liked a post in a topic by American Whore in Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
fuck, we're here
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bel air rose liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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stupidapartmentcomplex liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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Deadly Nightshade liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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Lustformoney liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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Pico Ocean Boulevard liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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fishtails liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
of course she did lol
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Cry by the beach liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.
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Distantly liked a post in a topic by pawn shop blues in Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think cruel world is just too good to ever be topped for album opener. It sets the mood perfectly + hypes you up for the journey you're about to go on with UV.