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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by sickmind in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
K is NOT fantasy!1!!!1!
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by sickmind in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
she posted it
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by TheBoss in TheBoss - New "LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL" Cover Art
UPDATE!
Terrence Loves You: It's just the color version with a stronger pink, i kinda love it tho.
Music To Watch Boys To: I tried my best and I'm really proud of it
Freak: I've done two versions, one with the "Lana Del Rey in" and the other without it, I feel like the font that I used gave me like a 70s or 80s horror movie poster vibe, so yeah.
I'm working in more Honeymoon covers and I'll uplload them as soon as I can Feel free to use them if you want
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by ZeroZero in Barrie-James O'Neill Says Lana Broke Up With Him Via Interview
am I the only one who thinks it's kinda strange Lana dropped Barrie after UV and then Francesco after HM? I feel like she grows into these different moods every year or so, changes up her whole game, inspirations and likes, and drops the old boyfriends for new exciting ones. Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking Lana should date someone as complex as her so when she morphs again, he can morph by her side. or maybe she just a playa
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by sweetie in Barrie-James O'Neill Says Lana Broke Up With Him Via Interview
This is so Lana. Ends her relationships just like she aborts her album campaigns. Too scared to say it to our face so she just leaves us dazed and confused, with a sore scalp from all the weave tugging.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by yourboy in Barrie-James O'Neill Says Lana Broke Up With Him Via Interview
This is so sad.. It is quite relieving to know the full story now. Hope Barrie is a bit more comfortable with his life.. He didn't deserve to feel so bad about being a burden to Lana. I don't blame anybody in this relationship. They just chose the wise way!
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Valentino in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
The screenshots was simply serendipitous: someone bumped this thread, bringing it to the front page. Unfortunately some of the images beyond the 1st page are broken, so I couldn't use them.
I found out about Lynn's blog and his flickr through Lanalysis. I also got dates for Mizrahi from there, too. And anything else is just looking stuff up. evil's early shows section helped, as well as this list of interviews I had saved.
And it's good that I get to make this 2nd post because I want to add some stuff about Steven Mertens. Here's a bunch of interviews mentioning him, plus evilentity's world-class sleuthing:
Steve Mertens 1
In a Lizzy Grant-era piece for the Huffington Post, she told a reporter, “Strangest performance: Alone in a basement for a handsome record executive. Strangest [song] ever written: Back at his office while I was making out with him.” When I ask her if she regrets joking like that, given how often people perceived her as a puppet of some executive team, she says, no, the story was true: “I had a seven-year relationship with the head of this label, and he was a huge inspiration to me. I’ll tell you later when more people know. He never signed me, but he was like my muse, the love of my life.” (JUNE 4 2014, FADER)
(the referenced interiew is form May 25, 2011)
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You could work with outside songwriters. Are you open to that kind of thing a bit more now?
Lana: Yeah, I’m more open to it now, ‘cause personally I’m not really feeling it. (Laughs) Like this guy I worked with eight years ago, Steven Mertens, who made my first record [editor’s note: David Kahne is credited as the producer of her debut, 2010’s Lana Del Ray a.k.a. Lizzy Grant; Mertens is a member of the Brooklyn band Spacecamp]. He knew me really well.
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Now, I know you don’t love to talk about this because journalists have sort of mythologized your past but let’s talk about the trailer park you lived in for a few years- I shot you there when you were 22 [my note: 2007] and continued to shoot you there for a couple years while you were writing and entertaining and wrapping up your album with David Kahne. You were so sweet and happy that you had your very own place to write and reside in, and extra money from that $10,000 indie contract. It was also a sad time for you because you separated from Steven Mertens who had originally produced that record and who was your boyfriend at the time. I don’t really have to ask you this because as your sister, I think I already know, but would you say this was your most enriching time as an artist and happiest time in New York (despite the split from Steven.) (GALORE INTERVIEW 2014)
4 (the saddest one, imo)
Why did you choose to cover Nina Simone’s “The Other Woman” on Ultraviolence?
[Sings, “The other woman has time to manicure her nails, the other woman is perfect where her rival fails.”] I relate to being the person who people come to for “such a change from the old routine,” but not being the main thing. I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label and I felt like I was that change of routine. I was always waiting to become the person who his kids came home to, and it never happened. Obviously I had to seek other relationships, and I felt like that became a pattern. I was younger—24, 25 at the time. I had known what I wanted to do for a long time. I had been serious about music since high school, and I stopped drinking when I was 18. (Complex august 2013)
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EVILENTITY ANALYSIS
TrailerParkDarling, 16 Aug 2013: Steven Mertens used to play back up w/ her, I guess at various gigs.
He used to w/ Regina Spektor, too
http://web.archive.o...ace.com/4026640
SitarHero, Aug 16 2013: But no seriously Sirens was 8 years ago and AKA wasn't...like I think she may have just actually referenced it. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
I totally overlooked the "eight years ago" part at first ( at a possible reference to Sirens or her other early recordings) but I'd been meaning to contact Steven Mertens for months since @Trash Magic and I put some things together about him (which perhaps belong in Lanalysis). When I saw she mentioned him by name in this article, I got on that immediately and sent him an e-mail. I'll report back any response, but please don't bother him in case it interferes with my attempts to correspond with him.
In addition to sharing the bill with her at a Cross-Pollination show, and playing in her backing band as TPD noted (he's the guy that looks sort of like McNulty from The Wire in the Canal Room videos), Mertens has actually been referred to in at least two other interviews with Lana. Remember that Megan and Menace in the Mornings interview?
When I was young, my boyfriend in the city made my first record. His best friend Jack was Regina [spektor]'s longtime boyfriend. They're married now.
(You can listen here at around 5:20.) Regina Spektor (who TPD notes Mertens also played for) is married to Jack Dishel who was in a band called The Moldy Peaches. Guess who else was in The Moldy Peaches? Steven Mertens. I wasn't completely convinced at first that that's who she was talking about (I thought it was more likely another Moldy Peaches member, Adam Green, since his initials are AG, likely a red herring) until @Trash Magic pointed out something I'd missed-- in that Mizrahi interview she said:
One of the first producers I worked with, Steven Saint, learned a lot from Dick Dale (father of surf music, pre-Beach Boys) so the beginning of the sound was influenced by some sounds from Hawaii and surf guitars, so that’s where the surf comes from.
A little digging shows that Steven Saint = Steven Mertens (see here and here).
6 (surf music + Steven Mertens is from LA)
I had a very handsome ex boyfriend from here [interview takes place in California] once. Surf punk rock bands. It was loud all the time in the house, in the car.
(KPRI interview)
(also notice she calls him handsome here and refers to the record executive as "handsome," too. Makes me think of For K Part 2: "how you get so handsome, my boy?")
For reference, a pic of Steven Mertens in 2008.
That thing where she mentioned feeling like a change of routine... wow. That got me, honestly.
And now for some more discrepancies...
Who are these people?
RADIO GUY
I mean you know people always said you know people will come out of the woodwork and change their mind about you. They’ll start to like you ‘cause you’re on the radio. And it is true but I don’t mind ‘cause I’d rather people be nice to me.
I don’t really care why people are nice to me I just lie it when it’s easier. I just wrote it when this guy that I used to know came back into my life. So now my life is sweet like cinnamon. Cause he came back. (ITALIAN INTERVIEW on FACEBOOK, MAR 12 2012)
RICH GUY
"It's a song about a man who thought I was one of the most exotic things he had ever seen and me indulging in his appreciation and love. On the outside he was handsome and wholesome, but under wraps he was running an illegal electronic business which ended up taking him and his friends under." (Unknown interview, about MDM)
Like, you know, I used to live a really crazy life and, like, OTTR is one of those songs were you can tell by the energy of it that I’m right in the middle of, like, a relationship where times were happy but also chaotic. We were travelling between LA and Las Vegas, he- I can’t gamble ‘cause I’m not good, he was gambling, I was just swimming. (ITALIAN FB interview, MAR 12 2012)
ALABAMA (this could be Mertens since one of the May Jailer pages listed Alabama as a place and that would've been pre-Lynn)
I lived down in Alabama with my boyfriend, I lived here in Brooklyn and in Jersey. I’ve been a lot of different people, I guess.” (FADER JULY 2014)
LONG TIME LOVE MAN + EX BOYFRIEND COUCH MAN
What about love and loss, the other dark note in her oeuvre? “I felt the same way for a really long time, and then I met someone who I guess I fell in love with,” she says. “I just didn’t know I could feel differently. That time with him became sort of a place that I fell back to in my memory.” And the breakup? “Well, I mean, the breakup is a part of it in the way that in the midst of loss you try to still look towards the light and not fall to pieces or do self-destructive things.”
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Before she goes, I ask her where she lives. She’s looking to buy a place, but for now is in Williamsburg. “Staying with my ex-boyfriend,” she says nonchalantly, then bursts into nervous laughter and admits, “I live on his couch.”
I give her a look like, You just told me all that about falling in love and breaking up and you’re on the dude’s couch? She pins it on the touring, letting out another embarrassed laugh. “Because no, I’m busy though!” (FEB9 2012)
REHAB ROCK STAR (Jimmy Gnecco?)
Which lyric are you most proud of?
There was an older song that you've never heard called "Pawn Shop Blues". [sings] "In the name of higher consciousness / I let the best man I met go / Because it's nice to love and be loved but it's better to know all you can know." Because I remember I'd met someone so special and famous but I knew he wasn't enlightened about how to be a good person. I knew it would get in the way of me becoming a nice person. That's a difficult choice to make.
How did you meet this famous person?
Um, it was in a self-help group. [laughs]. He wasn't that famous. I just thought he was famous…
TV famous or movie star famous?
Rock star famous. Just middle of the road ish. To me he was famous because I didn't know anyone who was wildly recognisable. I remember thinking it was exciting at the time. (SEP 19 2011)
VIDEO GAMES MAN (MEN)
(supposedly VG is about Mike Mizrahi, and he supposedly tried to control her career)
Lana: Video Games was a song that came after I abandoned all ambition of becoming anyone noteworthy in music. It was only ten months ago. I just wrote it when I felt love again. It was about a time when it was nice to focus on a relationship and simple things; watching your boyfriend play videogames. It sounds sad, but it was sort of happy. I’d let go of the idea of being a singer because things had gone so terribly for so long.(SEP 23 2011)
LDR: A boy. I think we came together because we were both outsiders. It was perfect. But I think with that contentment also comes sadness. There was something heavenly about that life – we'd go to work and he'd play his video games - but also it was maybe too regular. At the time I was becoming disillusioned with being a singer and was very happy to settle with a boyfriend who I loved, but in the end we both lost sight of our dreams. Maybe there's something not-so-special about domestic life. (OCT 4 2011)
“The verse was about the way things were with one person, and the chorus was the way that I wished things had really been with another person, who I thought about for a long time,” she says, breaking into an acapella of the song. “‘Swinging in the backyard, pull up in your fast car, whistling my name’. That was what happened, you know? He’d come home and I’d see him. But then the chorus, ‘Heaven is a place on earth with you, tell me all the things you wanna do’ wasn’t like that. That was the way that I wished it was – the melody sounds so compelling and heavenly because I wanted it to be that way. The verse is more matter-of-fact because that’s how it was. It’s a mix of memories and the way I wished it could have been. Just because things happened a certain way doesn’t mean that that’s the way that they are. (Dazed 2011)
(NOTE: She's said in a more recent interview that many of her songs are like this - the verses about one person and the chorus about another. I am pretty sure she said this about West Coast; I need to track that interview down)
BTD, VG, BJ - a trilogy about one guy?
(5:47)Q: I didn't realize until recently that Born To Die, and Video Games, and Blue Jeans, you said they were kind of a trilogy about this one dude and his effect on you and your relationship and what you thought. Is he, Adele-style, is he aware of that? Have you talked to him about that? Is he aware of the reaction it's getting?
L: What is Adele style?
Q: She's very vocal about this one person. It's about this person and we talk about it and now we can have a laugh about it, but the time there was so much emotion going on.
L: He doesn't know. His mother knows. We're in touch. But no.
Q: He hasn't pieced it together and gone hey!
L: Not really.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Valentino in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Potential Arthur Lynn stuff.
I was looking for an Arthur Lynn blog post and ended up looking through his posts. I noticed he referred to Van Halen as "kings" and the "band that changed my life and kicked me in the balls." He specifically tags them as "david lee roth, diamond, edward van halen." And that reminded me of Mermaid Motel:
'maybe we could go to Suede Tokyo
See Van Halen at their reunion show
Heavy Metal hour on TV
Diamond Dave and Ray Lee'
I mean, there's nothing saying none of her other long-haired boyfriends/paramours/whatever couldn't have liked Van Halen, but:
Arthur Lynn is confirmed as a boyfriend we have songs referencing his origins (Greenwich) we have songs referencing his favorite drink (Diet Mountain Dew) It doesn't seem odd that this could be a reference to him.
Lana Del Rey lived in New York City from like 2006 to 2009-ish. Van Halen's reunion tour with David Lee Roth 2007-2008 had a stop in NYC November 13, 2007 and May 23, 2008. Neither of these dates would conflict with her known shows. I don't know when she wrote Mermaid Motel, but she performed it at Arlene's Grocery February 3, 2009, so it's possible for it to refer to the reunion show as a past event (as opposed to a future event).
Ray Lee is currently a drummer for Korn but "served as the drummer of the Van Halen frontman’s solo band from 1997 to 2005, performing on 1998′s ‘DLR Band’ and 2003′s ‘Diamond Dave’ albums."
I'm still not sure about Suede Tokyo. There is a band by the name of Suede and they have indeed performed in Tokyo, but I don't know why Lana would refer to that. More educated people, help?
So I'm speculating Mermaid Motel is about Arthur Lynn. Which brings me to something else...
One site listed Lynn's interests as such (trying to find the site since, like an idiot, I just saved the interests). Pay attention to the bolded ones.
music, girls, guitars, america, diet mountain dew, van halen, ice cream, photography, jersey, angiescreams, indian summer, woods, food, freckles, the sun, the moon, seasons, amplifiers, family, friends, karma, october, yo mama, yo mama's apple pie, and those little people we call doggies
JERSEY
Note his blog is subtitled "thoughts from a jersey boy." His flickr lists his hometown as Jersey but "currently" (not sure when screenshot was taken) Greenwich, CT. I was already pretty sure that Motel 6 was about Lynn due to DMD references, but "to Jersey with love" makes more sense now.
MORE VAN HALEN STUFF + CONEY ISLAND + YOUR MOM:
This is the most recent screenshot I’m showing – we’re going in reverse chronological order, from ‘last login date.’
In this screenshot from her Lizzy Grant MySpace, url therichwhores, she lists Diamond Dave as an influence (along with Britney Spears and motorcycles, two other lasting influences). Notice she lists her location as New Jersey. Also notice that she describes her music as metal - not a musical genre I would put any Lana Del Rey song in, ever. I wonder if Arthur Lynn, who could conceivably be the one into "heavy metal hour," influenced her calling her music "metal."
She's still therichwhores here, but her location is now Alabama. Her genre is glam, blues, experimental. No metal – not yet, anyway. David Lee Roth is one of 3 influences, along with Britney Spears and motorcycles.
The earliest Rich Whores screenshot I’m showing. In this one, she lists David Lee Roth and Coney Island as influences... along with "your mom." Yeah, just like Mr. Lynn listed "yo mama." Britney and motorcycles remain, but the other influences have shifted. Arthur Lynn is explicitly listed as a member here. She's living in New York now. (aside: pretty things is an influence here. we'll see that again later)
AMERICA
Lana said this about one of her ex-boyfriends:
Lynn loves rock and roll, that's perfectly clear. But what distinguishes him from Gnecco or Carney or other musical liaisons? Well, the 4th 'like' listed by Lynn was America. It's a weak connection, but I don't think we've ever tied that comment to any other boyfriend. Lana didn't always talk or sing about America. Her May Jailer era stuff, for example, seems more focused on the details of personal relationships than concepts like America or archetypes like the gangster boyfriend. I don't know when Lana started playing with Lynn, but it'd be curious to see if that date coincides with an increasing number of references to Americana. If we assume Mermaid Motel is about Lynn, then we also have a connection to Coney Island, another interest of hers that you don't see mentioned in the early days.
To see how big the change from her May Jailer stuff to her Lizzy/Lana stuff was, let's look at more MySpace pages...
Folk, acoustic, experimental! Only one of these genre descriptors survived into the post-May Jailer MySpace descriptors. Her influences are Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg, Nirvana, Leonard Cohen, Radiohead... only Nirvana is repeated as an influence in the later MySpace page, although Daniel Johnston seems to be in the vein of singer-songwritery stuff.
A year later (according to last-login date) and "Cony Island" (sic) and "pretty things" have been added as influences. She's now experimental, blues, folk - the acoustic part is gone. Another mid-2000s screenshot shows "Bread and Oranges" appearing alongside Money Hunny, Fordham Road, and A Star for Nick. It now has its final name, Pawn Shop Blues, and For K Part 2 has shown up - the LDR album appears to be forming (Jump, Kill Kill, and Put Me In A Movie show up in the Lizzy screenshots above).
The last login date for this one is 5/17/2007, whereas the last login date for the earliest Rich Whores page is 12/12/2007. It appears to be a transitional state, not just with regards to her layout, but also her name and influences. The music is less acoustic. Coney Island starts showing up, as well as motorcycles and Van Halen. Metal inexplicably becomes a descriptor.
Would fit in pretty well with Arthur Lynn showing up… just sayin’.
(one last thing... under band members, she lists "TAGS & TIM." Who are these people?)
CONCLUSION?
From 2007-ish to maybe 2009-ish, Lana dated Arthur Lynn. Arthur Lynn may be the boyfriend who loved rock-n-roll and America. Before his introduction into her band (and we don't know when they met, so they could have met before Lynn was part of the Rich Whores), Americana references were rare in her music, she made singer-songwritery stuff about people's lives, and she basically had a very different persona. Lynn becomes part of the Rich Whores, she now likes Van Halen, specifically David Lee Roth and the album Diamond Dave, Coney Island (all mentioned in Mermaid Motel), her music is described very differently (metal, really?; and glam), she somehow picks up on his jokes (yo mama)... I think he was an influential boyfriend.
Oh, and to tie this back to other boyfriends...
According to the Galore interview by Chuck, Lana broke up with Steve Mertens when she was 22. So 2007?
Lana mentioned a seven-year relationship with a record producer in the 2014 Fader interview and I think Mertens is the only one who could potentially fit that.
Which would make the timeline of that relationship 2000-2007. Which means she would have been 15 when she started dating Mertens... If Mertens is the 7 year relationship (and I don't think any of the other ones could be that relationship), then that means she would have had 4 major ex-boyfriends.
Mertens 2000-2007.
Lynn 2007 to 2008 or 2009
Mizrahi 2009 to 2011
Barrie 2012 (?) to 2014
Thoughts? It's like early in the morning and I've spent a couple hours doing this, so I'd like fresh eyes.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Valentino in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Ultraviolence:
I used to be a member of an underground sect which was reigned by a guru. He surrounded himself with young girls and he had this insane charisma I couldn’t resist as well. So I was in this, I’ll call it sect, because I was longing for love and security. But then I found out that this guru wasn’t a good but a bad person. He thought that he had to break people first before he could build them up again. At the end I left the sect.
No, “Ultraviolence” look back on my time in New York. I was for a while part of a sloping underground scene, which was dominated by a guru. He believed in the concept, finished close people first and then rebuild. I fell for him because that time I longed for security.
The lyrics also mention a “cult leader,” and Ms. Del Rey said the song looked back to a time soon after she moved to New York City, when she considered following a guru who “believed in breaking you down to build you back up again.” “It sounds kind of weird,” she added, “but that is what it’s about, and having romantic feelings entwined with the idea of being led and letting go and surrendering. That’s always a concept to me, like I’m wavering between independence and falling into lifestyles and being led.”
There are so many things, really. I guess one of them is a personal experience I had with a person who believed in breaking you down to build you back up again. And although that mindset didn’t really agree with me, there was something freeing in letting go, for me, [with] this particular sort of guru-esque character. It’s a little bit about being in love with the act of surrendering, about being confused whether that’s a good idea.
I think searching for guidance is a constant theme in my life. I knew relatively early on who I was. But I did not know exactly what I wanted to do. And I was always looking for people who are like me. So, I went at the age of 18 to New York. I was looking for this cool artist group, but I didn't find it. But I found someone who was like me. It was very interesting for me, we had a special relationship. He had built up a group that followed him. In the end, it wasn't right for me.
The lyrics to UV make sense in this context. We have a guru (the "cult leader") who believes in breaking you down to build you back up again. Lana was in love with the idea of surrendering, and so him breaking her down felt like an act of kindness, especially since she felt lost at this time: "He hit me and it felt like a kiss." After the break down comes the reconstruction: "Jim raised me up, he hurt me but it felt like true love." However, Lana ultimately knew this wasn't right for her. "Jim taught me that loving him was never enough." The song seems to be a reminiscence, since Lana says this song is about her time when she was 18 in New York and the bridge says "we could go back to New York." She adds that "loving you was really hard." She says he "used to" call her DN and poison ivy, so she's singing in the present. The "I was filled with poison but blessed with beauty and rage/Jim taught me that" line seems very cultlike. One of the things cult leaders do is make you believe that there's some incredible thing waiting to be unlocked but that normally you can't access it. Of course, the cult leader can access it and that's why you should follow him and trust him. Jim "taught her" that she was "filled with poison" and he called her "poison." Not very positive things to say.
The nature of this relationship is unclear. She says it was a "sect-like" thing and refers to him as "guru-esque," so she doesn't think it was a straight up cult. She calls their relationship a "special relationship," but that can mean anything. One of her comments was about "having romantic feelings entwined with the idea of being led and letting go and surrendering." I'm not sure if "romantic feelings" refers to the guru or to the idea of surrendering. This whole thing would have happened in 2003, before she would have recorded Sirens! It's before any boyfriends we know of, too.
With this in mind, I wonder if Cruel World is also about this guru. "Shared my body and my mind with you" would be very appropriate for a cult leader. Cruel World is very unspecific. All we know about this guy is he had a lot of women, a bible and a gun, and he used heroin.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Valentino in Do you think Lana still does drugs?
Got this from a thread in LB. It seemed to be just unreleased songs, so I tried to add some released ones but undoubtedly I'm missing a lot.
Boarding School : "let's do drugs" ; "I do them drugs" ; "if you wanna get high with me" ; "doing crack" Daytona Meth Hawaiian Tropic: "on that crystal meth" Paradise "dope" Scarface: "Do I look high to you?" St. Tropez "Drunk and high" You & Me: "No longer high" ; "make me higher"; "gettin' blazed" Yayo Methamphetamines American: "dope" Beautiful Player : "Valium" Born to Die : "let's go get high" Carmen: "getting high for free" Carmen (demo) "cocaine heart" Disco "heroin" Driving in Cars with Boys "crazy like a drug" Get Drunk "using again" ; "Robitussin" Gods & Monsters "Dope" Heavy Hitter: "overdose" Making Out: "taking drugs" Never Let Me Go "you can push your drugs" National Anthem "overdosing"; "on our drugs" Off To The Races "cocaine heart" Puppy Love "overdose" Junkie Pride Spotlight De-lite "dope" Try Tonight "to not get high" Us Against the World "get high for" Velvet Crowbar "crack" Jump "mixture of cocaine and heroin" ; "junkie" Breaking My Heart "yayo" Florida Kilos "white lines"; "baking powder on the stove"; "turning diamonds into snow"; "you snort it like a champ" Cruel World "and all of your heroin" Brooklyn Baby "I get high on hydroponic weed" Pretty When I Cry "next to all your drugs" Sad Girl "peepin' around while he gets high" Is This Happiness "takin'/crushin' violet pills" Hollywood "shootin' heroin and speedballs" High By The Beach "all I wanna do is get high by the beach" Betty Boop Boop "crystal methamphetamine" -
sickmind liked a post in a topic by LoreleiLee in Wayamaya
Waikiki cove? Hmmm, I see Lana peeks a lot in this board. It sounds very familiar...
http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/6090-fake-funky-track-lists-for-upcoming-honeymoon-album/page-3
Quoting myself:
"Ok, this is my list from months before:
Honeymoon, surreal edition
Amarcord Amour
Giulietta and the Spirits of Tahiti
Waikiki Tide
Cinnamon Sheikh
Lovers and Liars
Rainbow Unicorn
Diamond Pills
Exotica
Maharaja's Babe
Mirage Summer
Harem Harlot
Lisergic Acid Mistress
Music To Watch Boys To
Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Deluxe Edition:
Lava Lust
Volcanic Vulva
Pearl Pale Concubine
Sylvia Plath is Dead
Flowers of Saint Francesco
Brothel of Fickle Muses
Blood Orange Ocean
Cherry Knot Nymph
Hurricane Licks
Mango Phantom
Palm Trees on Fire
Trouble in Acapulco
Wild Strawberries
Carnal Coral Crime
Queen of Fucking Everything
Bonus track:
Rape Me (Nirvana Special Extraultradeluxe Cover)
New Unreleased:
Pacific Moonlight
Daydreaming
Tempest
Valium Baby
Fever
Third Eye (ok, this is eww)
Velvet Temple Pussy
Monaco
Scarlet Opium Nymph
Desert Storm
Chameleon Cleopatra
Broken Mirror
Suicide Ginger Vamp
Chiquita
Golden Age
Dragon Empire
Fatamorgana
Dancing on Your Grave
Purple Champagne
Bloodbath
Chandelier Tears
Heartshaped Pillbox
Highway Harlot
Neptune Narco Sparkle Dust Queen
Magic Potion Assassin
Daddy's Dirty Secret
Rabbit Moon
Crying Black
Lilith
Knife in the Water
Poolside Sunset
(Bengal) Tiger in my Bed
Borderline Princess
Haunted
Lillies in my Hair
Poison Ivy
Ice Queen
Obsession
Nuclear Love
Avalanche
Silver Shrine Virgins
Push the Needle
Cocaine Heat
Toxic Foxy
Feathers & Pearls
Hollywood Babylon
In the Woods
Suck My Cuts
Deranged Siren Chateau
Lick My Boots
Opalescent Veins
Diabolique
Glitter Hustler
Satelite Lights
Sugar Cotton Eclipse
The Devil Within
Woodoo Bitch
Bleeding Poppies (in July)
Queen of Hearts
Misery
Neon Butterflies
Summer Snow, Winter Sun
Electric Shake Snakes
Stroboscopes
I ignite
Stabbed Heart
Mojave Peyote
Lake of Thousand Sorrows
Atomic Pink
Screams and Whispers
Sick To The Bones
Lavender Eyes
Snake Tattoo
Silverscreen Mermaids
Shantung Silk Underground
Lipstick Blues
Persephone's Curse
Intergalactic Orgasm
Indian Summer
Torture Garden Orchids
In Flames
Golden Wounds, Diamond Scars
Resurrection
Into the Night
Soulsister Gunshot
Heroin Coconuts
Supervixen
L.A. Venus
Vampire Lover
Femme Fatale
(not funny, just fun to assemble)
(I'm so goth :troll: )"
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I am so over with this board. Bitch was inspired by my imagination. I know I might sound delusional, but these are the fruits of my mind. And I gave her a lot more material (since she started to repeat herself thematically and juggles with same old trite tropes).
I just realized obsessions are not healthy. She was my last idol and I am finally grown up. Won't listen to her anymore, won't buy any of her future albums. I am soooo stupid. About 500 song and album covers and visual material for nothing. Wasted time. (Thank god I've lost just six months). Just a few likes (Elle is an exception). From now own I devote myself only to my own art. Basta, finito. Adios. Love ya all.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Wild One in Honeymoon producers on each track
Don't ask me where I got this. This is legit and 100% true
1 Honeymoon
05:50 Artist: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Piano: Rick Nowels - Acoustic Guitar: Rick Nowels - Organ: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Programmer: Kieron Menzies - Strings: Patrick Warren - Programming: Patrick Warren - Drums: Curt Bisquera - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 2 Music To Watch Boys To04:51 Artist: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Piano: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Guitar: Rick Nowels - Strings: Patrick Warren - Flute: Patrick Warren - Clarinet: Patrick Warren - Oboe: Patrick Warren - Bassoon: Patrick Warren - Drums: Curt Bisquera - Sound Effects: Trevor Yasuda - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Percussion: Kieron Menzies - Samples: Kieron Menzies - Conga: Brian Griffin - Bass Guitar: Roger Joseph Manning Jr. - Synthesizer: Roger Joseph Manning Jr. - Flute: Leon Michels - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 3 Terrence Loves You04:51 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Guitar: David Levita - Piano: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Programmer: Kieron Menzies - Strings: Patrick Warren - Programming: Patrick Warren - Drums: Curt Bisquera - Saxophone: Leon Michels - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 4 God Knows I Tried04:41 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Electric Guitar: Rick Nowels - Organ: Rick Nowels - Piano: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Kieron Menzies - Samples: Kieron Menzies - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 5 High By The Beach04:18 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Organ: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Keyboards: Rick Nowels - Programmer: Kieron Menzies - Samples: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Kieron Menzies - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Synthesizer: Kieron Menzies - Harmonium: Patrick Warren - Piano: Patrick Warren - Programming: Leon Michels - Keyboards: Leon Michels - Flute: Leon Michels - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 6 Freak04:55 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Engineer: Phil Joly - Asst. Recording Engineer: Iris Sofia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Electric Guitar: Rick Nowels - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Kieron Menzies - Percussion: Kieron Menzies - Saxophone: Leon Michels - Synthesizer: Leon Michels - Sound Effects: Lana Del Rey - Sound Effects: Rusty Anderson - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 7 Art Deco04:55 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Programming: Rick Nowels - Percussion: Kieron Menzies - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Synthesizer: Kieron Menzies - Strings: Patrick Warren - Piano: Patrick Warren - Synthesizer: Patrick Warren - Programming: Leon Michels - Saxophone: Leon Michels - Percussion: Derek Allen - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 8 Burnt Norton (Interlude)01:22 Voice: Lana Del Rey - Music Production: Keefus Ciancia - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels 9 Religion05:23 Artist: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Programming: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Samples: Kieron Menzies - Strings: Patrick Warren - Piano: Patrick Warren - Sound Effects: Trevor Yasuda - Acoustic Guitar: David Levita- Electric Guitar: David Levita - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 10 Salvatore04:41 Artist: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Asst. Recording Engineer: Phil Joly - Asst. Recording Engineer: Iris Sofia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Piano: Rick Nowels - Acoustic Guitar: Rick Nowels - Percussion: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Strings: Rick Nowels - Electric Guitar: Rick Nowels - Percussion: Kieron Menzies - Drums & Percussion: Brian Griffin - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 11 The Blackest Day06:06 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Organ: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Drums: Kieron Menzies - Samples: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Kieron Menzies - Synthesizer: Kieron Menzies - Strings: Patrick Warren - Piano: Patrick Warren - Sound Effects: Trevor Yasuda - Electric Guitar: David Levita - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 12 2404:56 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Nicolas Essig - Asst. Recording Engineer: Emerson Day - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Keyboards: Rick Nowels - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Programmer: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Piano: Rick Nowels - Electric Guitar: Rusty Anderson - Drums: Brian Griffin - Percussion: Brian Griffin - Strings: Patrick Warren - Horn: Patrick Warren - Percussion: Patrick Warren - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 13 Swan Song05:23 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Engineer: Phil Joly - Asst. Recording Engineer: Josh Tyrrell - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer: Rick Nowels - Organ: Rick Nowels - Horn: Rick Nowels - Strings: Patrick Warren - Sound Effects: Patrick Warren - Percussion: Derek Allen - Drum Programming: Kieron Menzies - Electric Guitar: David Levita - Banjo: David Levita - Drums: Brian Griffin - Percussion: Brian Griffin - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan 14 Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood03:02 Vocals: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Kieron Menzies - Producer: Lana Del Rey - Producer: Rick Nowels - Engineer: Kieron Menzies - Engineer: Trevor Yasuda - Engineer: Chris Garcia - Mixer: Kieron Menzies - Bass Guitar: Rick Nowels - Electric Guitar: Rick Nowels - Organ: Rick Nowels - Mellotron: Rick Nowels - Synthesizer Programming: Rick Nowels - Drums & Percussion: Brian Griffin - Strings: Patrick Warren - Sound Effects: Patrick Warren - Mastering Engineer: Adam Ayan
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by HEARTCORE in BARRIE TWEETS LANA
he pines after Lana so bad...did he not get the memo that they're over...its pretty sad really
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by longtimeman in Honeymoon
'Mr Born To Lose' is a specific reference to junkie chic rockers - it's not as random as everyone seems to think
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Trash Magic in Lana's double vocal
Me... a mattress on the side
Ya'll are deaf, her accent is way too prominent. Nothing like Lana
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Elle in Lana's double vocal
Personally, I don't think they sound alike at all. Her voice is a lot weaker, lighter, and younger sounding than Lana's. Although, if she really fools the rest of you that much, someone should give her some fake Roses lyrics to sing too and see how many people will buy it. x
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by MotelHoney in Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth criticizes Lana in memoir
Haha, so what she said was essentially "she does't even know what feminism is, she can't just do anything she wants as a woman! I will also tell another woman to kill themselves because they are troubled enough to have used/use drugs and have a mental illness (depression)".
Edit: Apparently, sleeping with who you want is UNFEMINIST! Kim should stop calling the kettle black.
Edit: Her twitter is full of this Lana saga, she retweets people saying 'You go girl! I am SO buying this book now!'
The motives are clear as day.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by evilentity in Official "I had the song before it leaked" thread
Why am I not surprised @@Trash Magic started this thread?
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Heaux in Lana changes Instagram profile photo to Lizzy era pic
tbh the only type of re-release i want is the exact same album reissued with all of the old videos uploaded on Youtube or like in a deluxe boxset. I'd want her to bleach her hair again too and maybe do new big budget videos for a few of her favorite tracks.
The album would lose all its magic if she rerecorded any of it tho.
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by YUNGATA in Lana and Francesco spotted in Saint Barthélemy
add more if you wish!
source
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sickmind liked a post in a topic by Sophia in Lana and Francesco spotted in Saint Barthélemy
mhm okay