Liz Taylor Blues

i just wanna say that's it's unhelpful and quite dangerous to imply that Lana's past history & her self-professed penchant for older men makes it plausible or probable that she'd willingly submit to Weinstein's advances. it's one step short of victim blaming & gross speculation about a situation that we simply don't know whether was consensual or abusive, or if it even happened at all.
 
i've seen quite a few people in this thread write several variations of what essentially amounts to "Lana isn't the type to be abused", which is a naïve and sadly very incorrect take on how & why abuse happens. it's also pretty insensitive to speculate on consensuality based on her apparent friendly demeanor towards Weinstein, or the fact that some of her loved ones (namely her sister) seemed to have a cordial relationship with him at one point - taking a look at some of his proven victims' relationship with him over the years, all the smiling photos at industry events, etc. would suffice to prove my point.
 
lastly - maybe nothing happened, maybe it happened and was consensual, or maybe it wasn't. we'll probably never know for sure, or not for a very long time, and song lyrics definitely aren't the way to prove anything, especially not in someone as prone to fantasy & half-truths as Lana. i just want to add that trying to own/appropriate abusive events in order to try to regain some sort of control over the situation is a frequent victim response, so even if Cola and FMWUTTT are indeed celebrating something that happened with "Harvey", it doesn't necessarily mean her agency in the real life situations played out exactly like it does in the songs.

It's impossible to see the truth from Lana's lyrics or analyze them deeply, especially since much her lyrics are so characterized or melodramatic that you can't even tell if it's about her own life or how much of it is true. Ex. Kinda Outta Luck, lol do you really think Lana killed a man by hitting him with a gun for fun? 

elon musk? i have nothing BUT time for Elon x Lana space adventures

It's such bullshit that some of you are assuming Lana/Harvey relations are true. We don't know if it is, and we certainly won't find out through Lana's niche for ambiguous lyricism. We shouldn't pretend to be detectives using unreliable and circumstantial evidence to find out the intricacies of their relationship and whether or not it was abusive. Hopefully Lana will clear it up soon, but in the meantime let's not assume it's true? It's one thing to discuss this controversy but it's another to claim something as true when it has not proven to be. There are so many victims in this mess and it's all so horrible, so let's not count Lana in just yet? 

Yeah... let's just go up to her and ask "Hey lana were you sexually abused by harvey weinstein?" i'm sure any abuse victim would love being tossed that question in a meet and greet.
 
i swear. sometimes it's like y'all don't even think she's a human being.

y'all know damn well that this is a reach
 
#notmyharvey

Well, this *completely* ruins my username. 
 
Also, I honestly don't think it's appropriate to be gossiping about if Lana was harassed or assaulted by a serial creep and abuser. I don't think anyone would appreciate being the subject of that speculation. As another matter, I think often fans mistake Lana's lyrics for real life way too often and think they know things about her that they don't. Same with her comments to the press, many of them happen to not be true. Especially from her early career. I think she was nervous with the press and trying to live in this persona she created as Lana del Rey, and that led to a lot of strange comments that fans latch on to and take way too seriously. 

I feel very weird about this because Lana of course can do whatever she wants in her life and I don't want to preach @@her, especially since it's just now that i've heard about weinstein's doings but i know she has a knack for getting herself into dangerous situations, especially with men. So imagining her and harvey makes my blood freeze, even tho it shouldn't be my business. 
 
He was clearly a huge admirer of her in 2012, I can only hope he kept his lecherousness for himself. At least we know she went off making an album with a much different sound (so we know she wasn't trying to surf on the craze around btd/pe/ss remix vibes) and didn't consider going for a career in acting or movies. So maybe that suggests she took some distance from all that? 
 
I don't want this to have happened, who knows.... 
 
 
 

she looks like the top in a lesbian couple

update to my June 30 post (reply 188)
 
1 Coachella, still my favorite and still listening and still what I said June 30, the #1 song of 2017.
(and those that don't like the instrumentation (drum), listen to Marlene Dietrich's "Der Trummelman" (German for "Little Drummer Boy", and the stark live reading of "Where have all the Flowers Gone" .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VseETz8C48c
 
2 Tomorrow Never Came  
 
3 Groupie Love

Boys, don't forget ur toys, and take all of your money - WHEN THE WORLD WAS AT WAR BEFORE we just kehhpt daaancing ~

She better close with Get Free

If she doesn't play heroin I'll sue

I wish she added Religion to the setlist.. underrated masterpiece

Hope we get a orchestra on the tour... The album prays for that!   

The reason why "Love" is a classic is because it describes an omnipresent feeling young people have always had.

That's exactly why we need a live album from Lana!

Imagine Lana covering "Happy Together" by the Turtles. And sing it with Derik Fein for LDR6....omfg
And if you have never heard of him, listen to his songs "Your Love", "Hollywood" and "Fast Life".
He even references Lana in that last song, and likes a lot of her music. Their voices together would be just as Good(if not better) than hers and Sean on TNC.
 
A gay can dream

I ship them so hard

so fierce
and god she's skinny

I LOVE HER NEW HAIR, it looks so good on her!   Especially with those sunnies too.
Lana's been wearing a lot of black and adidas lately, I hope they bought something colorful for her! Maybe it's something she'll wear on the tour as well?

She’s brunette she’s skinny she’s rich and she’s a little bit of a bitch

What is a Lizzy comeback? Y’all all need to stop thinking in eras, and realize that she’s constantly growing as an artist

The thing about a Lizzy comeback was that AKA was written at a time when Lana really was young and naive, she seemed to be fetishizing the seediness of the life she was living, that's what made Lizzy so unique. But Lana's life isn't like that anymore. It'd be interesting to hear a maturer Lizzy sound, but I don't think it'd sound much like AKA

I agree! The melody in the verse "there's something in the wind" is so chilling and creepy, i paint a picture in my head of some old enchanted forest and an innocent princess sat by the pond, who ends up tasting the water and becomes something dark.. her hair turns to black and she starts to see life as it is (symbolises depression) idk.. it's just a masterpiece
 
Also... i think lana's next record might be all lizzy grant (vocals and style-wise) because at the end of Get Free it's as though her Lizzy vocals get louder whilst her Lana vocals grow quieter.. it could mean she's putting her LDR persona.. (voice, sad songs) behind her and is stepping back into Lizzy but with a happier sound.. that would be quite a smart followup