Tropico Roses

Y'all are so hard on our queen. Obviously it's fun to see her serve looks and get all dolled up, but everyone needs to chill. From everything I've read from those who've actually been to the shows so far, this is her best tour yet in terms of vocals, confidence, mood, etc. JUST LET HER LIVE AND SING THE SONGS WE FELL IN LOVE WITH. We love her for her lyrics, her wisdom, her kindness. 
 
Just like everyone, I'm always thrilled to see some awesome outfits but more importantly I'm excited to be in that arena in her presence and hear her sing her heart out and see her have fun and feel confident. I feel like this tour we're getting more of the real, honest Lana than we ever have before. That's honestly what I'm most excited about.

The best part about cherry live is when she stops singing it and transitions into Scarborough fair. Ugh we don’t deserve these vocals she’s serving.

Y'all are so hard on our queen. Obviously it's fun to see her serve looks and get all dolled up, but everyone needs to chill. From everything I've read from those who've actually been to the shows so far, this is her best tour yet in terms of vocals, confidence, mood, etc. JUST LET HER LIVE AND SING THE SONGS WE FELL IN LOVE WITH. We love her for her lyrics, her wisdom, her kindness. 
 
Just like everyone, I'm always thrilled to see some awesome outfits but more importantly I'm excited to be in that arena in her presence and hear her sing her heart out and see her have fun and feel confident. I feel like this tour we're getting more of the real, honest Lana than we ever have before. That's honestly what I'm most excited about.

Y'all are so hard on our queen. Obviously it's fun to see her serve looks and get all dolled up, but everyone needs to chill. From everything I've read from those who've actually been to the shows so far, this is her best tour yet in terms of vocals, confidence, mood, etc. JUST LET HER LIVE AND SING THE SONGS WE FELL IN LOVE WITH. We love her for her lyrics, her wisdom, her kindness. 
 
Just like everyone, I'm always thrilled to see some awesome outfits but more importantly I'm excited to be in that arena in her presence and hear her sing her heart out and see her have fun and feel confident. I feel like this tour we're getting more of the real, honest Lana than we ever have before. That's honestly what I'm most excited about.

The vocals    I was snatched at 1:27 

Y'all are so hard on our queen. Obviously it's fun to see her serve looks and get all dolled up, but everyone needs to chill. From everything I've read from those who've actually been to the shows so far, this is her best tour yet in terms of vocals, confidence, mood, etc. JUST LET HER LIVE AND SING THE SONGS WE FELL IN LOVE WITH. We love her for her lyrics, her wisdom, her kindness. 
 
Just like everyone, I'm always thrilled to see some awesome outfits but more importantly I'm excited to be in that arena in her presence and hear her sing her heart out and see her have fun and feel confident. I feel like this tour we're getting more of the real, honest Lana than we ever have before. That's honestly what I'm most excited about.

Last night was the first time I ever saw Lana, 5 years and 364 days to the date I discovered her. I was so scared for the crowd, afraid I wouldn't be able to hear her, but I feel so lucky. I was 2nd row and I experienced NO hassle from the crowd at all. Radio's been my favorite song off BTD forever and that performance made me laugh my ass off, not even the crowd knew the second verse and we all looked at each other like "shit what's next." I cried during Video Games, everything just got to me that this was happening. 
For sure, the best setlist (for my personal tastes) of this tour yet.

Y'all are so hard on our queen. Obviously it's fun to see her serve looks and get all dolled up, but everyone needs to chill. From everything I've read from those who've actually been to the shows so far, this is her best tour yet in terms of vocals, confidence, mood, etc. JUST LET HER LIVE AND SING THE SONGS WE FELL IN LOVE WITH. We love her for her lyrics, her wisdom, her kindness. 
 
Just like everyone, I'm always thrilled to see some awesome outfits but more importantly I'm excited to be in that arena in her presence and hear her sing her heart out and see her have fun and feel confident. I feel like this tour we're getting more of the real, honest Lana than we ever have before. That's honestly what I'm most excited about.

Hid the topic bc Vic texted me telling me to, didn’t even read it. Reopened & quickly scanned through. I don’t know what you guys want me to say/do about the situation. Really, I don’t. I’m not trying to defend moy for what he did. I agree that it’s 100% wrong. I remind him of it all the time. It was a shitty thing for him to do. Yes we’re friends, but that doesn’t mean I’m okay with what he did. I really don’t know what you all want me to say or do here. The situation really isn’t in my control but at all, but if you think there’s something more i can do jjust let me know what you want me to do bc now I’m stressed and just wanna make things better but I don’t know if I can do much. I myself can’t physically make him pay everyone back, but if you guys reach out to him yourselves, he will refund you. He has so far to everyone who directly reached out to him. I encourage him to pay people back. I do what i can, i really do, but i can’t just swat him on the head with a magic wand and have him pay back everyone instantly. I don’t control him. I can only encourage good, which is what i do. The situation is really beyond my control for the most part. I do what i can, it’s just the fact of the matter that there’s not much for me to do. He has to do it himself. I physically cannot control him. Also let me just clarify that I’m not defending moy’s actions. I agree with the rest of you that it was a very, very shitty thing to do & he should do what he can to do to fix it. Trust me, I tell him all the time. Yes, I’m friends with him, but that doesn’t mean I disregard what he did. I remind him of it constantly and I encourage him to do good but that’s about as much as I physically as a person can do. That’s all I can say if you have questions my DMs are open but I have a busy day today but will respond when I can

I love how half the people talking shit about the performance/stage presence, etc. probably weren’t even there this show was the most personable/best vocal experience Lana’s ever delivered in the now 6 times I’ve seen her....

All of you are really hating but this show was phenomenal. She was so comfortable with the crowd. Of the 5 shows I’ve been to, I’ve never seen her this comfortable with the crowd. I loved it
 
 
The outfit was very strange, though, I must admit

I was going to rip this audio for my tour album but although this is possibly the only time she'll sing this on tour I don't think I can use something she can't remember lol, this is hilarious
 

She did played Radio https://twitter.com/DelReyLatest/status/957103111897743362

She's serving 

Come on she is beautiful
She wears what she wants to she is Lana Del Fucking Rey

The outfit was cute as fuck the sweater basically had a bunch of holes in it with the skin showing through and the leggings has the built in sheer see through parts on the legs plus the adorable long ribbons in her hair she literally did that with the whole sexy yet sophisticated vibe

DRIVING IN CARS WITH BOYS

NICE!keep us updated!have fun!

Apparently she rehearsed Radio

https://twitter.com/jamidelrey/status/957040708426391552

The amount of money put into this project converts to nearly 7.5k in USD.

You know what I would give to have had even a small fraction of that $7.5k when my cat was dying of cancer and I was barely scraping up enough money just to afford consultation appointments to find out what was wrong with her so I could have ended her suffering sooner?
 
You know what I would give to have had a fraction of that money just to have helped family members of mine afford treatments to help ease their agony and get them comfortable while they endured terminal illness?
 
And yet I have to see someone use that much money (that wasn't even theirs to use to begin with,) to pay off a Mac computer and a Netflix subscription, among other luxuries, and chalk up such irresponsible financial decisions as "essential to human existence." I think everyone continued to lead quality lives just fine without DVDs being shipped to their houses in 1998 and their favorite shows being streamed directly to their devices since 2007.
 
I thought the case of Ethan Couch would have been the first and last time I had to hear about the poppycock diagnosis of "affluenza"; clearly it is contagious and exists in various strains.
 
You know what I did when my Spotify Premium subscription was up and I couldn't afford to pay another month? I didn't renew it.
 
You know what I did when my PlayStation Plus subscription was up and I couldn't afford to pay for another month? I didn't renew it.
 
You know what I did when I quit my job in November under the false pretense that I had another job lined up, and couldn't afford Christmas gifts because I was unemployed? I didn't spend money I didn't have, and I told everyone not to worry about me for Christmas.

I especially did not use money given by people, who were customers expecting a product to be developed and distributed to them as promised, to pay off debts I racked up under my own accord.

As someone who suffers from depression, anxiety, and OCD, that open letter was absolutely cringeworthy to read, because I saw more investment in elaborate and outrageous excuses to justify irresponsibility, practically begging readers to say "Oh, I TOTALLY get that," than I saw investment in assuming full responsibility and remorse for letting one's personal issues cloud their judgment.

As the son of a business owner, and as a partner of a creative business, that open letter was absolutely cringeworthy to read, because under zero circumstances do you touch a single red cent of your customers' monies before you provide them absolutely 100% of your services. You do not touch a single red cent of your customers' monies before you provide them the quality product they paid for.

Putting the copyright legalities of the lyrics alone aside, as far as the use of pictures go, that money could have been used to pay artists to replicate photos or even contribute their own art for the project. I can already tag a handful of members on this forum who are talented and aspiring artists/graphic designers, and would have loved to contribute to this project for a small fee, or even for free, had they been asked or offered the opportunity.

He says he intends to refund everyone, but I have to chuckle at the advertising of snapbacks, as though his reputation as a seller has not been compromised in the slightest, and anyone who already lost money investing in the book, would be inclined to confidently put another dime into his business. Bite the bullet, try harder to find work, and actually earn the money that is going to be used to pay everyone back.

Even then, let's say that he gets a job where he is paid $9/hr. or better, and intends to put $200 aside out of each paycheck to pay off the debt his shenanigans caused him. If he is paid bi-weekly, he is only seeing a paycheck 26/52 weeks a year, which means that it would take him at least a year just to pay off $5.2k of what he owes everyone, adding on another 11.5 weeks to pay off the remaining $2.3k or so, if I am doing my math right.

With that kind of time-frame, I'd love to see how well he commits to this lofty attempt at redemption and compensation, as nice as the ideal sounds when you are looking at it through rose-colored glasses. It sounds like there is an overwhelming amount of customers to keep track of, and I'd be concerned that, eventually, he would lose track, and either forget people, or accidentally give people double or triple the amount they are owed.

I certainly hope he figures it out as soon as he puts his life, his values and his priorities in perspective, and I certainly hope everyone who invested in this failed project gets their money back, one way or another; and if the above theory is the most likely approach to each customer seeing their refund, they start thinking about if they are willing to wait that long, or intend to take other measures to get the refund they deserve. PayPal only handles claims within 180 days of the transaction so I wouldn't expect them to willingly rush to everyone's aid.

I also hope that the moderators have been considering how to possibly handle future situations like this, should another member attempt to use their fellow peers and their love for an artist to gain profit, and fail to carry out their obligation as a vendor/seller with the utmost integrity and consideration; and so it is not misunderstood (as I love and respect each of the mods here,) I am not saying "I hope" as a passive-aggressive jab. I am saying it as a genuine inquiry because as a fellow member here, the integrity of our community is just as important to me as I know it is to everyone else, no matter who was involved in this.

Underneath the layers of excuses and awkward attempts to persuade everyone into pity and understanding, this was still a scam like any other. Regardless of whether or not anyone involved could have used better judgment than to invest in a product, that didn't even at least make it past the prototype phase, friends and peers were manipulated by a member of our community, with whom they had entrusted a monetary investment. It is just as much of a display of poor character as it is when members here spread false rumors of unreleased music to garner attention, and not for the sake of a laugh or to make a point. We've had good members who have been banned for less and never got to explain themselves.

Good luck, guys.

Theres honestly just something about "Honeymoon". the whole album to me is just very mysterious and intriguing. After all this time ive been listening to it again none stop and im loving it lol. I feel like its her most overlooked album but i love it. Reminds me of late summer, like August when its scorching hot outside. 

I did it for you     
 
 
You did it for me 

YAY Elle!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I know what you mean about the show. Boston was my 5th and it wasn't just her voice it was her confidence combined with the crowds wonderful response. Perfect.
 

This was actually my first concert ever and it was so amazing. Easily top 3 nights of my life, I had an incredible time. Her singing was so beautiful and the stage was so cool. I am definitely going to try and make to future shows if I can.