Lirazel

No one said you werent allowed to have emotions about things.... but you dont have to twist someones intentions into something its not. That isnt right

She wasn’t shaming them honey, that wouldn’t make sense

The people who are mad are turning it into a race thing hahahaha yikesssNow why would she judge them for it when she sings about her pussy, and fucking her way up to the top? When she has vids of herself on a stripper pole? She even mentioned in the post her singing about DANCING FOR MONEY. She was praising Ariana so much lately, about how much she admires her confidence. You feeling shamed is a reflection of yourself and your own self esteem. You should be more strong and secure with yourself, then you wouldnt go around projecting. You feeling shame has nothing to do with Lana lol I sincerely hope you find more strength and confidence within yourself though, I dont wanna come across heartless

She also writes about this shit. She’s posed nude, wrote songs about her pussy, played a stripper in a music video, the list goes on and on. Song after song about being the other women. Have you listened to her music before or read her lyrics.

Just sounds like you’re projecting your insecurities.

Lol how is it sexist to point out that someone who had plastic surgery is hardly a natural beauty? The only thing that's not fresh here is your reading comprehension

was she really married 4 times in 5 countries?? 

Well, it's a narrative about a poor faithful boy who dindu nufin wrong and who loves his girl even though she's a slut fucking a whole town.
It ends with said protagonist deciding he is better off fapping on his own and considering murdering his significant other for being evil. Because apparently being unfaithful is worse than being a murderer lmfao. 
It's like an incel wrote a story about how a typical relationship goes according to the wisdom of 4chan. It's a typical male narrative about how women are evil slut and how it justifies murder. There is a lot of such crap on the internet and in media, if you learn to recognize it it's hard not to see it.
I was not suprised to see Sublime had a song about date rape tbh with the author having the below to say about it:
Wow, imagine having to state that you have never date raped anyone.
 
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I get that women can be shit to others as well. Doesn't change the fact that those Sublime lyrics are peak incelcore. 

Well, it's a narrative about a poor faithful boy who dindu nufin wrong and who loves his girl even though she's a slut fucking a whole town.
It ends with said protagonist deciding he is better off fapping on his own and considering murdering his significant other for being evil. Because apparently being unfaithful is worse than being a murderer lmfao. 
It's like an incel wrote a story about how a typical relationship goes according to the wisdom of 4chan. It's a typical male narrative about how women are evil slut and how it justifies murder. There is a lot of such crap on the internet and in media, if you learn to recognize it it's hard not to see it.
I was not suprised to see Sublime had a song about date rape tbh with the author having the below to say about it:
Wow, imagine having to state that you have never date raped anyone.
 
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I get that women can be shit to others as well. Doesn't change the fact that those Sublime lyrics are peak incelcore. 

Well, it's a narrative about a poor faithful boy who dindu nufin wrong and who loves his girl even though she's a slut fucking a whole town.
It ends with said protagonist deciding he is better off fapping on his own and considering murdering his significant other for being evil. Because apparently being unfaithful is worse than being a murderer lmfao. 
It's like an incel wrote a story about how a typical relationship goes according to the wisdom of 4chan. It's a typical male narrative about how women are evil slut and how it justifies murder. There is a lot of such crap on the internet and in media, if you learn to recognize it it's hard not to see it.
I was not suprised to see Sublime had a song about date rape tbh with the author having the below to say about it:
Wow, imagine having to state that you have never date raped anyone.
 
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I get that women can be shit to others as well. Doesn't change the fact that those Sublime lyrics are peak incelcore. 

shes starting to annoy me.
i love you lana
but
do better for you fans

this is just my own opinion, but i feel like her lizzy grant days/aka era was when she was most geniune. she was different, she sang about her trailer park, coney island, and all of the things she found endearing, lemonade, gas stations, sparklers, streamers, she had her own aesthetic that came with her videos and music which i feel are very unique and unlike anything i have heard before. i feel like me and "lizzy" have a lot in common. i wonder if the the amount of time ldrakalg was put on hold before release may of caused her to take a different artistic direction. it's obvious that the music she was making in 2010 was way different than it was in 2007/early 2008 so i bet putting out that record felt weird because it was old. i'm not saying btd era wasn't geniune to her, obviously she writes about her own experiences in different ways but i feel like the lizzy era was her most honest and geniune.

Ooo. Fab topic. I'm going to not think this through too much, and just go with what my pHEnOmENoLoGicAL response of what evoked the feel for me.
 
Born to Die
"Think I'll miss you forever,
like the stars miss the sun in the morning sky.
Later's better than never,
even if you're gone, I'm gonna drive"
 
Paradise
"I am fucking crazy 
but I am free"
 
(or, if we're sticking to song lyrics)

"I'm tired of feeling like I'm fucking crazy. 
I'm tired of driving 'till I see stars in my eyes"
 
Ultraviolence
"Heaven is on earth,
I would do anything for you and me.
Blessed is this union,
crying tears of gold like lemonade."
 
Honeymoon
"I lost myself when I lost you . . .
And I still get trashed, baby,
when I hear your tunes"
 
Lust for Life
"I hope that I come back one day
To tell you that I really changed"
 
Norman Fucking Rockwell!
"Why wait for the best,
when I can have you? YOOOOUUUUUUU!!!??!?!"

Possibly of interest
 
 
 

Not sure whether we should be doing this here or in Lanalysis instead, but whatever...

Sorry guys, I'm with @@longtimeman on this. I think this is primarily a song about Barrie (and kind of a harsh one, maybe even unfair). Let's break it down:

"My baby used to dance underneath my architecture"
Barrie was not only living in the shadow of her metaphoric architecture, her career and fame as @Lona Delery noted, but he was living with her under her roof, probably on her dime, in her fancy houses. Literally under her architecture. (@bummersummer made a similar point above.) And he's the only significant musician other she had during her post-fame period where she was rich enough to live in fancy houses.

"Houses of the Holy"
See @@longtimeman's post about that.

"He was cool as heck"
Potentially a callback to "Yeah, my boyfriend's pretty cool/But he's not as cool as me" in "Brooklyn Baby", a Barrie song, and perhaps "Shades of Cool". The repetition of the line almost seems to emphasize this.

"But you were so obsessed with writing the next best American record
But there was nothing left by the time we got to bed"
This is consistent with the picture she painted of Barrie in interviews and "Is This Happiness" (@SissyReed alluded to this) as someone focused on their art, more than she, perhaps to the detriment of everything else. (Ha, I'm amused just thinking about how blasphemous the idea of neglecting Lana in the boudoir probably seems to most of her fanbase.)

"How does that taste cumming out"
As @Sjp1988 suggested, perhaps a sly reference to Barrie being the origin of her saying "My pussy tastes like Pepsi-cola"?

"You did it all for fame
Baby, how's life treating you now
It's over"
Alleging that he did it all for fame seems harsh, perhaps a little unfair (and projecting to some degree), but Barrie did quit Kassidy to move to LA and pursue a solo career and live with his famous significant other. No part of that worked out.

"He was '70s in spirit, '90s in his frame of mind"
Definitely describes Barrie well, as he's heavily influenced by classic rock and Nirvana.

"Baby, how you feeling now
That I told you
We're through"
Lana was the one that broke things off. (Although it's questionable if she actually did tell him or just ghosted.)

"All the roads lead to you
Like the 405 I drive through
Everynight and everyday"
Not dispositive, but suggestive of her time living in California post-fame which points towards Barrie. Also, if taken semi-literally Barrie continued to live in LA for a time after they broke up.

"I see you for who you really are
Why the thousands of girls
Love the way Bill plays guitar"
Barrie is an accomplished guitarist. And "thousands of girls" instead of millions is fitting for Barrie/Kassidy.
 
OK, now to deal with some of the Barrie counter-arguments:
 
As @Vonn pointed out, she never says the person actually achieved fame.
 
I really don't think I could buy a producer theory for this song unless the line was "You were so obsessed with making the next best American record", but the line is "writing".

I think Mertens is too much of an artistic polymath to fit this. I don't see him having a single-minded focus on music, let alone "writing the next best American record".
 
Absent a specific candidate-- like Jimmy Gnecco, Lady Gaga, Chuck-- I'm inclined to believe that names she likes to reuse like Ray, Bill, Salvatore are just that: names she likes to reuse. Just because she likes the names. (I'm not even sure all her Jim mentions refer to Jimmy Gnecco, though perhaps Jim Morrison.) That said, like K, they could be invented pet names that do refer to a specific person. (I think there's a good possibility Ray at least began as a name for Arthur Lynn.)

I do think there is a case here for this being about Arthur. I'm sure he's into Led Zeppelin. The "American" part fits better. Based on his website and old Instagram posts I'm sure he's a studio rat. But this really seems like it's about a more recent relationship, post-fame, and overall screams Barrie to me.
 
And wouldn't it be a little too on the nose to put Barrie's name in the song? (Or Arthur's?) I'm not sure Lana would be as quick to namedrop in song these days as she was when she tossed off "Jimmy Gnecco" and "So Legit". This might be a deliberate way to obscure.
 
I don't think some of the lyrics really fit the theory that it's about herself. But I am sympathetic to this theory in the sense that there's some amount of projection going on here.
 
Mmm... I think people are making too much of this. Barrie moved to the US and (I think?) recorded his album in the US, has a lot of American musical influences, and stayed in LA for awhile after they broke up trying to get his solo career going. Plus consider Lana's comments at the Brits suggesting she really didn't think of herself as an "international" artist because she lived in the UK while recording BTD there. Never underestimate Lana logic.
 
Really? I'm not necessarily convinced all those songs are exclusively about one guy or about a specific guy, let alone the same guy. You know, back in 2011, 2012 when she was saying stuff to that effect in interviews she wasn't consistent. One interview she'd say they were mostly about one guy, the next she'd say two guys. Taken with other interview comments she's made about songs written about past lovers becoming about the person you're with now, I think Lanalysis is inherently a fool's game (that I nonetheless enjoy playing).
 
           

I 100% thought this was about sex work when first reading these, especially the waiting for the sun (more night time work). She’s propositioning married men for sex night after night. Or whoever she’s narrating as. Who knows tho

A quick concept with all the baddie Lana songs
 
LIVE OR DIE LP
 
Tracklist:
1) Serial Killer
2) Kinda Outta Luck
3) Live or Die
4) Dangerous Girl
5) Golden Grill
6) Scarface
7) Ghetto Baby
8) Noir
9) Gangsta Boy
10) Daytona Meth
11) TV in Black & White
12) Playing Dangerous
13) Crooked cop (Outro)
 

Almost every artist I've tried to get in to. :/ I have such a particular taste. I sometimes try looking up the artists I see on this forum or click around Spotify's "similar artists" thing but with no luck. Its just weird because I obviously have some taste overlap with people here, I like Lana and Marina, but beyond that I can't get into any of the artists that are popular here or on MB beyond maybe 1-3 songs form someone here or there. And those disappear in a few weeks/months whereas Lana and Marina and a few others I have listened to for years.

HAIM
 
 
You are human garbage
 
 
Oh just seeing all the mutual Haim feelings Idk I don't ever try too hard because what's the fuckin point but I just felt like there was something there that I'm missing...

In my opinion NFR is almost completely forgettable.
 
Also her weird Church shit left a bad taste in my mouth & made me stop listening to most of her material.
 
It's hard to support an artist that associates themselves w/ groups that are
Actually bigoted/ oppressive to vulnerable communities.
 
Like Brandon Flowers being obsessed with Mormonism - I loved The Killers but my _$$
Isn't going to contribute to some fucked up racist or sexist or anti gay group of religious zealots. Fuck that

I think a lot of people like it because it's about Barrie.
 
She has shockingly bad taste in men and for all his faults, he was a favourite among fans.

I hate how she and especially her fandom push this romanticised "the other woman" narrative. If you are aware that your lover is cheating on his/her partner you are just as disgusting as the cheater himself.

what does "my baby used to dance underneath my architecture" mean? makes me cringe

I wish that I could get excited about anime again.
I still read manga from time to time, as there are plenty of mature and fascinating titles (mostly in the seinen genre), but new anime is such predictable, crude trash. 
Thanks to incel otakus for ruining the industry. 
I thought depression made me unable to sit through 20 minutes of cartoon, but Bojack Horseman blew my mind. It turned out that most anime is not up to my standards. 
 
I goddamn miss Satoshi Kon.

Time to rewatch Paranoia Agent and all the movies.

When early Tropico photos like those got released:

 
it made me extremely happy that her body wasn't exactly perfect. It helped me just a tiny bit with my body image issues.
It was nice to see a gorgeous gal like Lana with a bit more meat on her.