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I want this on my gravestone thanks
 

I'm baffled how many of you understand her religous lyrics as literal references. Not to say anybody is wrong here, I just assumed the way I feel about it was quite common.
 
I think she has always been agnostic in her work (excluding the cult ridden May Jailer era). She portrays the struggle of every human being to question one's own purpose. God is the only figure whether he exists or only exists as a common fantasy amongst our culture to might have an answer to that. Pawn Shop Blues and Coachella both describe the will to let go of everything earthly imaginable just to get a piece of that universal knowledge of life. Just like Eve she wants to taste the forbidden fruit to gain knowledge even if that results in her losing life/losing eternal life. To me the constant mention of God seems more like a feeling of desperation and the last remaining hope. If there is no heaven, none of us will ever find the true meaning of life. Yet death (and the following encounter with God) seems to be the only way to answer her questions as it is humanly impossible (the Absurd) to figure out what our purpose is. Camus believed to accept the absurdity of life and continue living is the true revolt (contrary to suicide being the revolt against the absurdity) which could relate to songs like L4L. I guess that could be a shift.
 
But then again a lot of her songs give different perspectives on the matter. From claiming one's own human power and dismissing anything above that (Disco/Gods &Monsters) to surrendering completely to the unknown entity (Bel Air/Old Money) or even trying to create heaven on earth (Ride).

I'm baffled how many of you understand her religous lyrics as literal references. Not to say anybody is wrong here, I just assumed the way I feel about it was quite common.
 
I think she has always been agnostic in her work (excluding the cult ridden May Jailer era). She portrays the struggle of every human being to question one's own purpose. God is the only figure whether he exists or only exists as a common fantasy amongst our culture to might have an answer to that. Pawn Shop Blues and Coachella both describe the will to let go of everything earthly imaginable just to get a piece of that universal knowledge of life. Just like Eve she wants to taste the forbidden fruit to gain knowledge even if that results in her losing life/losing eternal life. To me the constant mention of God seems more like a feeling of desperation and the last remaining hope. If there is no heaven, none of us will ever find the true meaning of life. Yet death (and the following encounter with God) seems to be the only way to answer her questions as it is humanly impossible (the Absurd) to figure out what our purpose is. Camus believed to accept the absurdity of life and continue living is the true revolt (contrary to suicide being the revolt against the absurdity) which could relate to songs like L4L. I guess that could be a shift.
 
But then again a lot of her songs give different perspectives on the matter. From claiming one's own human power and dismissing anything above that (Disco/Gods &Monsters) to surrendering completely to the unknown entity (Bel Air/Old Money) or even trying to create heaven on earth (Ride).

Killer, Flight 22 and Gotta Get Up sound most familuar to Por Vida which I love. In My Dreams sounds kinda Indie, the melody is pretty interesting but the lyrics seem corny at times (I had this feeling with a lot of tracks though). Dead To Me and Miami are good tracks. Other than that I just can't get over some of her lyrics
 
They say don't blame the player
But he played the game (sigh)
 
They look at me funny when I write a check
'Cause they assumed I would be paying in sex (just... wow)
 
Be the one that everyone likes, just approval 'til they die
I'm the one they love to hate (Girl, you don't have more haters than anybody else)
 
At the end of it, I will listen to it but I still prefer Drunken Babble and Por Vida.

this album is a 4/10. a good 3/4s of the songs are fillers

What'd God give me a brain for
If he won't let me use it?
What'd God give me a plan for
If he won't help me do it?

Dammit. So basically get ready for 808s and hella synth. Her BBM Baby album is coming

What'd God give me a brain for
If he won't let me use it?
What'd God give me a plan for
If he won't help me do it?

What'd God give me a brain for
If he won't let me use it?
What'd God give me a plan for
If he won't help me do it?

What'd God give me a brain for
If he won't let me use it?
What'd God give me a plan for
If he won't help me do it?

didnt lana used that name because of arthur? https://angiescreams.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/lana-and-ray/ 

The real truth is,,there is no such thing as fiction,,,,you live in the infinite
universe,,,if you think it or have knowledge of it,,,,it already exists...something that does not
exist has no knowledge or memory of.....the past is the present and future,,,,the signal you
download today you will process when you sleep and view tomorrow it already happened,,
 
 
alexis.wright29Stop pretending to be something you are not, just to steal money from the blind
poor
 
I might be taking this way too seriously but when all of us can recieve the knowledge of the universe, every expierience or scenario we ever dreamt of already existed, why is it bad to create art about that instead of one's own life expierences? Why are they so mad about Lana stealing somebody's stories or are they mad about her lying about it?

I'm sure someone said this already but I've been re-listening to Madonna's "Ray of Light" and I could see Lana doing this style - really cinematic with some trip electronica. Like, the song "Frozen" would sound awesome and feels like a natural progression... her style, but in a new direction.
 
She definitely won't, but so many songs I could see her doing - and the electronica production sounded so cool. 

I thought a lot of this was quite obvious especially after Tropico. It's the dark side of the American dream. I always thought that a lot of her music (BtD and Paradise in particular) was about the idolaziation and worshipping of American pop culture and the darkness behind that. Her growing up obsessing over all these Hollywood legends to the point of wanting to become famous herself (Groupie incognito) and then only seeing the cruelty of it all. I mean none of this is really a conspiracy, it's an observation that a lot of us could have and can make. Beyoncé even had a visual in Lemonade "I'm not a God", because that's literally how the public treat her. (Sidenote: Family Feud MV being filmed in a church or the Grammy performsnce. The hypocrisy.) I believe the whole Get Free/COTBR is actually telling the listener to disattach themselves from that kind of worship or generally speaking getting rid of the desire to be like celebrities/live their life (there's no more chasing rainbows -> their arches are illusions). We seek to imitate art, but we should free ourselves from doing so as it is all an illusion.

The real truth is,,there is no such thing as fiction,,,,you live in the infinite
universe,,,if you think it or have knowledge of it,,,,it already exists...something that does not
exist has no knowledge or memory of.....the past is the present and future,,,,the signal you
download today you will process when you sleep and view tomorrow it already happened,,
 
 
alexis.wright29Stop pretending to be something you are not, just to steal money from the blind
poor
 
I might be taking this way too seriously but when all of us can recieve the knowledge of the universe, every expierience or scenario we ever dreamt of already existed, why is it bad to create art about that instead of one's own life expierences? Why are they so mad about Lana stealing somebody's stories or are they mad about her lying about it?

The real truth is,,there is no such thing as fiction,,,,you live in the infinite
universe,,,if you think it or have knowledge of it,,,,it already exists...something that does not
exist has no knowledge or memory of.....the past is the present and future,,,,the signal you
download today you will process when you sleep and view tomorrow it already happened,,
 
 
alexis.wright29Stop pretending to be something you are not, just to steal money from the blind
poor
 
I might be taking this way too seriously but when all of us can recieve the knowledge of the universe, every expierience or scenario we ever dreamt of already existed, why is it bad to create art about that instead of one's own life expierences? Why are they so mad about Lana stealing somebody's stories or are they mad about her lying about it?

On google maps it says Detroit is 2 hours from nevada stemming off of the "2 hours to Nevada" line. could this be true? her mention of Detroit in G&R was always interesting to me

I thought a lot of this was quite obvious especially after Tropico. It's the dark side of the American dream. I always thought that a lot of her music (BtD and Paradise in particular) was about the idolaziation and worshipping of American pop culture and the darkness behind that. Her growing up obsessing over all these Hollywood legends to the point of wanting to become famous herself (Groupie incognito) and then only seeing the cruelty of it all. I mean none of this is really a conspiracy, it's an observation that a lot of us could have and can make. Beyoncé even had a visual in Lemonade "I'm not a God", because that's literally how the public treat her. (Sidenote: Family Feud MV being filmed in a church or the Grammy performsnce. The hypocrisy.) I believe the whole Get Free/COTBR is actually telling the listener to disattach themselves from that kind of worship or generally speaking getting rid of the desire to be like celebrities/live their life (there's no more chasing rainbows -> their arches are illusions). We seek to imitate art, but we should free ourselves from doing so as it is all an illusion.

I thought a lot of this was quite obvious especially after Tropico. It's the dark side of the American dream. I always thought that a lot of her music (BtD and Paradise in particular) was about the idolaziation and worshipping of American pop culture and the darkness behind that. Her growing up obsessing over all these Hollywood legends to the point of wanting to become famous herself (Groupie incognito) and then only seeing the cruelty of it all. I mean none of this is really a conspiracy, it's an observation that a lot of us could have and can make. Beyoncé even had a visual in Lemonade "I'm not a God", because that's literally how the public treat her. (Sidenote: Family Feud MV being filmed in a church or the Grammy performsnce. The hypocrisy.) I believe the whole Get Free/COTBR is actually telling the listener to disattach themselves from that kind of worship or generally speaking getting rid of the desire to be like celebrities/live their life (there's no more chasing rainbows -> their arches are illusions). We seek to imitate art, but we should free ourselves from doing so as it is all an illusion.

Well, here goes nothing   I've had this theory for years..
 
So I have gathered similiar lyrics but did consider the "drive by sunday night" reference and the timing is also a bit earlier (making it line up with the release of Sirens). The difference though is that this crime took place in South LA. (We all know she travelled through the USA as mentioned in several songs and videos, I believe this was during her gap year. Tropico proves the LA theory as well)
 
The double homocide took place on April 6th 2004 (Sunday to Monday night"drive by sunday night" - For K)
at 2AM ("I was shot at 2AM" - Jump -> as in that's when Lana died, too, because she lost him forever because of the crime)
over a drug dispute (I'm not gonna quote obvious themes in her music ) 
Lana was 18 at the time (gap year) 
 
Two men shot a man and three women (witnesses) in the Nickerson Gardens housing project, two of the women survived and one of them was brave enough to testify (She died September the same year, and her funeral took place in St. Paul's Baptist Chruch ("Swinging in and out of Old Paul's" - Video Games)
 
Sidenote: This could be a stretch but there's a Willowbrook street and a Willowbrook Park right next to the housing project ("See the willow bowing" - Out With A Bang)
 
In July 2004 one of the men (K) involved in the shooting was convicted to murder charge (the articles don't say the amount of years but I guess 30 could be it) The jury split about the question of death penalty and the 'phase of the case should be retried'. (Not important but the other man involved had a different trial as he didn't confess)
 
A piece of information that is missing is when they decided to put him on death row because in 2009 a judge denied to reduce his death sentence that's all I could find.
 
K was 28/27 in 2004, so he does kinda fall into the older man type. I mean 10 years apart for an 18 year old is a lot imo.
 
Now, his name is the most mind-blowing piece of information: Kai Harris (as in fucking K, Kai, KAY..)
 
ITS JUST A THEORY THOUGH  
 
 
 
 
PS: He's a lightskin black man ("golden skin" - several songs) with long dark hair (again) and a slender, muscular figure.

Well, here goes nothing   I've had this theory for years..
 
So I have gathered similiar lyrics but did consider the "drive by sunday night" reference and the timing is also a bit earlier (making it line up with the release of Sirens). The difference though is that this crime took place in South LA. (We all know she travelled through the USA as mentioned in several songs and videos, I believe this was during her gap year. Tropico proves the LA theory as well)
 
The double homocide took place on April 6th 2004 (Sunday to Monday night"drive by sunday night" - For K)
at 2AM ("I was shot at 2AM" - Jump -> as in that's when Lana died, too, because she lost him forever because of the crime)
over a drug dispute (I'm not gonna quote obvious themes in her music ) 
Lana was 18 at the time (gap year) 
 
Two men shot a man and three women (witnesses) in the Nickerson Gardens housing project, two of the women survived and one of them was brave enough to testify (She died September the same year, and her funeral took place in St. Paul's Baptist Chruch ("Swinging in and out of Old Paul's" - Video Games)
 
Sidenote: This could be a stretch but there's a Willowbrook street and a Willowbrook Park right next to the housing project ("See the willow bowing" - Out With A Bang)
 
In July 2004 one of the men (K) involved in the shooting was convicted to murder charge (the articles don't say the amount of years but I guess 30 could be it) The jury split about the question of death penalty and the 'phase of the case should be retried'. (Not important but the other man involved had a different trial as he didn't confess)
 
A piece of information that is missing is when they decided to put him on death row because in 2009 a judge denied to reduce his death sentence that's all I could find.
 
K was 28/27 in 2004, so he does kinda fall into the older man type. I mean 10 years apart for an 18 year old is a lot imo.
 
Now, his name is the most mind-blowing piece of information: Kai Harris (as in fucking K, Kai, KAY..)
 
ITS JUST A THEORY THOUGH  
 
 
 
 
PS: He's a lightskin black man ("golden skin" - several songs) with long dark hair (again) and a slender, muscular figure.

I thought a lot of this was quite obvious especially after Tropico. It's the dark side of the American dream. I always thought that a lot of her music (BtD and Paradise in particular) was about the idolaziation and worshipping of American pop culture and the darkness behind that. Her growing up obsessing over all these Hollywood legends to the point of wanting to become famous herself (Groupie incognito) and then only seeing the cruelty of it all. I mean none of this is really a conspiracy, it's an observation that a lot of us could have and can make. Beyoncé even had a visual in Lemonade "I'm not a God", because that's literally how the public treat her. (Sidenote: Family Feud MV being filmed in a church or the Grammy performsnce. The hypocrisy.) I believe the whole Get Free/COTBR is actually telling the listener to disattach themselves from that kind of worship or generally speaking getting rid of the desire to be like celebrities/live their life (there's no more chasing rainbows -> their arches are illusions). We seek to imitate art, but we should free ourselves from doing so as it is all an illusion.

Well, here goes nothing   I've had this theory for years..
 
So I have gathered similiar lyrics but did consider the "drive by sunday night" reference and the timing is also a bit earlier (making it line up with the release of Sirens). The difference though is that this crime took place in South LA. (We all know she travelled through the USA as mentioned in several songs and videos, I believe this was during her gap year. Tropico proves the LA theory as well)
 
The double homocide took place on April 6th 2004 (Sunday to Monday night"drive by sunday night" - For K)
at 2AM ("I was shot at 2AM" - Jump -> as in that's when Lana died, too, because she lost him forever because of the crime)
over a drug dispute (I'm not gonna quote obvious themes in her music ) 
Lana was 18 at the time (gap year) 
 
Two men shot a man and three women (witnesses) in the Nickerson Gardens housing project, two of the women survived and one of them was brave enough to testify (She died September the same year, and her funeral took place in St. Paul's Baptist Chruch ("Swinging in and out of Old Paul's" - Video Games)
 
Sidenote: This could be a stretch but there's a Willowbrook street and a Willowbrook Park right next to the housing project ("See the willow bowing" - Out With A Bang)
 
In July 2004 one of the men (K) involved in the shooting was convicted to murder charge (the articles don't say the amount of years but I guess 30 could be it) The jury split about the question of death penalty and the 'phase of the case should be retried'. (Not important but the other man involved had a different trial as he didn't confess)
 
A piece of information that is missing is when they decided to put him on death row because in 2009 a judge denied to reduce his death sentence that's all I could find.
 
K was 28/27 in 2004, so he does kinda fall into the older man type. I mean 10 years apart for an 18 year old is a lot imo.
 
Now, his name is the most mind-blowing piece of information: Kai Harris (as in fucking K, Kai, KAY..)
 
ITS JUST A THEORY THOUGH  
 
 
 
 
PS: He's a lightskin black man ("golden skin" - several songs) with long dark hair (again) and a slender, muscular figure.

I thought a lot of this was quite obvious especially after Tropico. It's the dark side of the American dream. I always thought that a lot of her music (BtD and Paradise in particular) was about the idolaziation and worshipping of American pop culture and the darkness behind that. Her growing up obsessing over all these Hollywood legends to the point of wanting to become famous herself (Groupie incognito) and then only seeing the cruelty of it all. I mean none of this is really a conspiracy, it's an observation that a lot of us could have and can make. Beyoncé even had a visual in Lemonade "I'm not a God", because that's literally how the public treat her. (Sidenote: Family Feud MV being filmed in a church or the Grammy performsnce. The hypocrisy.) I believe the whole Get Free/COTBR is actually telling the listener to disattach themselves from that kind of worship or generally speaking getting rid of the desire to be like celebrities/live their life (there's no more chasing rainbows -> their arches are illusions). We seek to imitate art, but we should free ourselves from doing so as it is all an illusion.

I also believe heroin is just a metaphor for fame (Shoot it up straight to the heart pls!).
 
Remember when VG blew up she talked about wanting to be a one-hit-wonder. And after BtD she claimed to have said everything she wanted to say. I believe Lana knew even before she gained recognition how cruel fame could be. Her plan was to make a mark and leave. Hoping to come back as the same person (Chorus). She took the ride because she has been trying for too long being a struggling musician. The whole SNL drama, the backlash it was even worse than she expected (Bridge). I actually think the Mason stuff is also about the stalkers invading her privacy. Topanga ironically is LDR dreamland, everything she sang about pre-fame and probably everything she wanted to be a part of (Verse 1) but none of the people she has met actually represent the community she was longing for (Ride Monologue -> "all my friends are gone" Verse 2 Heroin) The "I'll stay another year" is her wanting to leave this life. The thing is even if she leaves fame behind she won't be the same person "dreaming about heroin" off to a foreign land. She changed and she will never go back. The good thing is instead of changing for the worse she changed for the better(Chorus 2). I believe she matured a lot in the past year or two, she ditched the submissive female being left by my man storyline and there's also no glamourization of drugs or abusive relationships. And I think that was a very conscious decision due to self-reflecting her actions and art.
 
Also Get Free and Heroin are a pair imo. "I'm want to get off but I keep riding the ride" vs.
"I want to leave, I'll stay another year"
 
Crowley vs Mason Family