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I actually feel the opposite, I feel like we'll have more grand and 60s type of instrumentation. I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into this but she's been posting a couple things that harkens back to that time period lately.

That's not accurate or factual in 20th century and 21st century rock n' roll and pop music.
 
Grace Slick, Janis Joplin, Patti Smith, Anne Wilson of Heart, Suzi Quatro, Debbie Harry of Blondie, Pat Benatar, Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders, the Runaways, Joan Jett, Lene Lovich, Nico, all of these women kicked ass and didn't embody or hide behind a 'fragile femininity' persona, and we're talking well over 30 years go.
 
Joni Mitchell, in the 70s, was an undisputed master of various kinds of musical form, comparable only to Bob Dylan, and while she sang many 'sad' songs, her intelligence, objectivity, and criticism of the post-1960s 'hot tub and wife-swapping' lifestyle was unparalleled. Rickie Lee Jones didn't adopt any sort of 'fragile womanhood' pose either in the same era. She was 'street,' she was 'tough.' 
 
Listen to Heart's 'Devil Delight' and tell me Anne Wilson didn't kick major ass--her vocals are like a nuclear explosion. And Joplin, Slick, Smith, Harry and Wilson were the leaders, the powers behind, their bands. The Runaways were all tough women. Nico's 'Genghis Khan' from 1980 is one of the most blistering rock n' roll statements ever. When Carly Simon wrote and sang 'You're So Vain,' and conquered the world with that song, she didn't adopt a 'fragile' pose; quite the opposite. Likewise, Linda Ronstadt told off many a man with 'You're Not Good.' 
 
In the 80s, aggressive, domineering Annie Lennox was no wallflower by any means. Tori Amos has produced at least a dozen songs that challenge just about everything in Western culture, certainly the role of women, and she hasn't done it in a sheepish or mousy manner, and in interviews she's been quite abrasive. She came to conquer. And Courtney Love with Hole? And Kim Gordan with Sonic Youth? And Lady GaGa? These are 'victims' in some shape or form, or 'fragile women'? 
 
All of these women have said, "I'm strong like a man too," in the very least. 

Oh Yeah ! I can go for that !    A punk rock album full of angst and ultra-ultra-violence singing !
 

I can see this album being a little similar to The Doors' An American Prayer album, in which Jim Morrison reads his poems with instrumentals by The Doors. I'm getting conceptual poetry album vibes with Lana's usual romanticism.

dont know if this is gonna be perceived as me rejecting her new poet ways or whatever but i want this to be an album of SONGS that feel like music not beat poetry

who cares about the grammy's, that shit is so rigged

Going by statistics, Lana will for sure have a title track and it will be the second track of the album.
 
It very much feels like she just gave the song that title for the sake of it. I understand that there was this whole concept about the song being about this bullshit and cocky artist/person, but that wasn't even a recurring theme on the album. 
 
I would very much like to hear what "Chemtrails Over the Country Club" sounds like.

I feel like based on what she said 'Royals' was like a counter reaction to the lavish and, for a lack of a better word, "vapid" imagery and message Lana conveyed in 'National Anthem'. But she also criticized Lana's overall lyricism, which Lana very much alluded to in her letter to the "culture".

Kim Gordon, Maura Johnston, Lorde and recently Ann Powers to name a few. All female artists/writers that have in some ways criticized Lana over the years.

Going by statistics, Lana will for sure have a title track and it will be the second track of the album.
 
It very much feels like she just gave the song that title for the sake of it. I understand that there was this whole concept about the song being about this bullshit and cocky artist/person, but that wasn't even a recurring theme on the album. 
 
I would very much like to hear what "Chemtrails Over the Country Club" sounds like.

I feel like based on what she said 'Royals' was like a counter reaction to the lavish and, for a lack of a better word, "vapid" imagery and message Lana conveyed in 'National Anthem'. But she also criticized Lana's overall lyricism, which Lana very much alluded to in her letter to the "culture".

Going by statistics, Lana will for sure have a title track and it will be the second track of the album.
 
It very much feels like she just gave the song that title for the sake of it. I understand that there was this whole concept about the song being about this bullshit and cocky artist/person, but that wasn't even a recurring theme on the album. 
 
I would very much like to hear what "Chemtrails Over the Country Club" sounds like.

It might be a mixture. I suggest Kim because her statement is crazeeee and Lana does seem to be one for harbouring grudges. I reckon she still vividly remembers what Lorde said too, so Lorde announcing new material and her doin the picture on the same day could be a wacky powerplay also.

Going by statistics, Lana will for sure have a title track and it will be the second track of the album.
 
It very much feels like she just gave the song that title for the sake of it. I understand that there was this whole concept about the song being about this bullshit and cocky artist/person, but that wasn't even a recurring theme on the album. 
 
I would very much like to hear what "Chemtrails Over the Country Club" sounds like.

NFR did but it wasn’t a lyric at all. So tbh... idk

Can't wait for you to write Lana's official biography.

This better be full of angry lyrics and wailing electric guitars to make up for the hell she's put us through.
 

Kim Gordon, Maura Johnston, Lorde and recently Ann Powers to name a few. All female artists/writers that have in some ways criticized Lana over the years.

Lorde seemed like she was digging at certain acts when Royals (or her debut album came out in general) came out anyways. Like she was the anti-Ariana and wanted to secure that.

Kim Gordon, Maura Johnston, Lorde and recently Ann Powers to name a few. All female artists/writers that have in some ways criticized Lana over the years.

Kim Gordon, Maura Johnston, Lorde and recently Ann Powers to name a few. All female artists/writers that have in some ways criticized Lana over the years.

I am so sure she is mostly talking about Kim Gordon.
 
"The extract read: “Today we have someone like Lana Del Rey, who doesn’t even know what feminism is, who believes women can do whatever they want, which, in her world, tilts toward self-destruction, whether it’s sleeping with gross old men or getting gang raped by bikers. Equal pay and equal rights would be nice. Naturally, it’s just a persona. If she really truly believes it’s beautiful when young musicians go out on a hot flame of drugs and depression, why doesn’t she just off herself?”
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nme.com/news/music/kim-gordon-3-1206795%3famp

gangster nancy sinatra is redundant. nancy sinatra is gangster

i love lana being vapid and narcissistic 

Imagining Lanz coming into this thread and telling us all to go fuck ourselves