Nightmare

i'm so glad he exists 

I'll draw the map: nobody came in here and went "Ew, this fat queer person is gonna be on here. Can they not?"

It was, to paraphrase, "I don't vibe with their content. I don't care for their music. Their general aesthetic rn just ain't it."

Then several people jumped the shark with "Well, all your dislike of them is just *phobia", dismissing criticism AND slapping a very hefty label on people and their opinions, some of which, sure, might be coming from a nasty place, but for others, could be coming from a much more nuanced place. Throwing that out there is going to get people prickly.

Then, we have comments then take another leap and introduce the angles of how Sam has (and I DO agree with this part) unfairly been targeted by the media and harassed, and how there's very much some "trans panic" amongst right wing groups in western politics right now. When you take that into context with other statements made that more or less boil down to "shut up and enjoy the music", it starts to beat around the bush and indirectly imply this notion that we should lay off any Sam Smith criticism/dislike/expressing anything negative, solely because of their status/visibility in society and what they've already gone through thus far. I agree that dog piling, especially if it's coming from a place of pure hate, is shitty, but that's also one of the things that comes with the territory of being in the public eye. There's going to be points where the media and GP have an opinion, but just because different kinds of criticism are being lobbed over the fence, does NOT mean that they're all actually just coming from the same mean-spirited or hateful place. To dismiss them all as such, also starts to roundabout say that the *only* possible thing an artist could be critiqued for, is the most visible (and marginalized) parts of themselves, and that kicks off a whole n'other cycle of discourse.

Also, clearly I'm a liar, because this didn't last.
 

AND, to bring this back around to keeping it Charli related to a degree, I liked the snippet. *To me*, and looking solely at Sam's singing and vocals - I feel like it's an odd collab. I could see Sam x Adele, or maybe even Ariana or Jessie Ware - Sam seems to lean up against songs that are a lot more ballady,  slower, and a little more emotional. Sure Sam's been on some dance tracks and club bops, but that doesn't mean much to me because that doesn't really appear to be their "home base" of sonics. I feel like a pairing with the woman who's got songs admitting her cheating, talking about partying and drugs and going hard - it clashes a bit when Sam's singing songs that downplay or chastise some of those topics or the 'aura' around them. At least, to me.

That being said, artists are also allowed to do about-faces. They're allowed to collab and change their minds and shake up their sound. You don't discover new shit without smacking existing shit together and seeing how well it sticks (or doesn't).
 
Charli clearly wanted to work with Sam, they're both teasing the song, so like, happy and excited for them both. I'm not personally a huge Sam Smith Enjoyer™, however there's a few songs I do like them on, a few song's they've written that I do enjoy as well. I just think it's an odd collab in terms of energy and style.

And, when the song is out, and I've given it some good listens, my opinion changes, then I'll eat my words and be left going "Damn, I was unnecessarily critical for no reason. I was an ass."

EDIT: I didn't even notice the extra page of discourse after the original comment my bad for keeping the topic rolling. Um.
 
Someone fucking leak Spring Breakers thanks.

sisters. we must not fight in this time of chaos in the world

i just know her album is going to be a cultural reset and slap us all in the face with how good it is so in the meantime she can have a little mainstream moment as a treat idc

Nothing can top IN THE DARKNESS! 

lol after a week I attempted to make one in that style https://imgur.com/a/f216Jnc

I don’t know enough about sam smith to know if they’ll ‘ruin’ the song or anything (and let’s be real snippets aren’t always the best way to tell if a song is good or not, we’ve been through this before) but y’all are acting like someone won’t make an absolutely iconic edit within an hour of the song being released that you can all use instead.
 
yes she won’t get your $0.003 per stream from Spotify but if the locals love it then she’ll make more money off them. she put sam smith in the speed drive music video to tease a collab so she’s probably trying to make a ‘hit’

NO NEED TO CRY IT'S JUST A BLACK C*CK 
 

allah x you did it again girl... releasing soty like that 

leak seronja!!!

Did everyone try the Bling Bling ft Ava Max??? I thought it was lovely

the sam smith hate goes far beyond their music being “bad”.
lets not act like conservative media didn’t have a field day with sam’s performances and red carpet looks. and then, like clockwork, the self-hating gays started jumping in on the hate train and repeating their rhetoric.
 
even the most innocuous photo of sam goes viral on twitter with thousands of people making fun of their appearance, weight, and their overall presentation.
 
but if you wanna pretend like that’s not an issue then that’s on you 

everything about this conversation sucks so im shifting it to something else
charli xcx, 5 in the morning photoshoot
nicki minaj, princess diana music video
 

i think they sound fine on it, i don't really see the issue if its not for the album? id rather her do the commercial feature on a one-off between albums,  especially if it keeps the label happy and they continue to let her do what she wants on the actual albums. seems like a pretty smart career move actually.

well ya'll have like 700 songs to listen from Charli        let her have her GP moment

ate hard af

tracklist so far: 1. No Hay Ley (ft. Rauw Alejandro) / 2. Labios Mordidos (ft. Karol G) / 3. Te Mata / 4. Muñekita (ft. El Alfa and JT) / 5. Dame Beso / 6. Cómo Así (ft. Don Toliver)

this album cover is stunning omg

ORQUÍDEAS out 01/12/24
features peso pluma, karol g, el alfa, and JT
 

https://archive.org/details/diwttiyhdphotoshoot
All the single covers were shared in lossless hd by her team on the discord server. I've preserved them here for easy access if anyone wants them for printing/editing/whatever else

baby i got a confession 

I’m crying

The singer Sam Smith identifies as “tri-bi”: bisexual, bipolar and biracial. http://t.co/pyTygYGAZn

just remembered xanax and i'd love to have it in HQ tho
 

debut album ‘Heaven knows’ out nov 10th!!!

drums…well it’s certainly a song…