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I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

“objectively less corn” made me laugh thank you for this lol

It’s such a cute and cinematic-sounding song, but I find myself rarely listening to it because it does very little for me. It’s mostly a personal preference for me, but I 100% agree lol

I feel like it also says a lot about Lana’s life too! I can imagine she’s had a life that has posed a lot of challenges and so her first few records were her working through those things - and she even said she wasn’t necessarily happy with her story up until a certain point in the LFL era; she was just chronicling things as they were. 
 
I love all of Lana’s records so much but I definitely find myself resonating with her newer records as she puts them out because I personally find that I move with her. I think Lana has definitely implied that she’s in a much lighter place than she was when writing her first four  records so of course the way her life is at a given moment will translate into her records - hence, the more “natural” presentation of NFR.
 
I’m grateful for all her albums and love the journey she’s taken us on but I’m also happy that she’s expressed being in an overall more casual place where she can feel even more free to do what she wants (even though she kind of always did)!

This is how I feel about Ultraviolence, too! I cannot explain how earth-shattering it was when the record finally clicked. For me, my pre-req for delving into UV was anguish & NFR’s was healing from it lmao
 
 

i don't get why people say it upsets them when other people say NFR is lana's best, it's just personal taste  

it's hard for me to say which album is my favorite cause i like them all for different reasons but personally i relate to NFR the most as the lyrics are so raw and i guess the most realistic in a way? most lana songs from BTD-HM paint this dramatic picture of a relationship straight out of like a godfather movie, which i love her storytelling and the cinematic feeling of those songs but it can sometimes be so over the top and dramatic that you can't even feel comforted by it.

NFR, as with any of Lana’s records, contains its fair share undeveloped songwriting, but I don’t think that writing that is accessible, less shocking, and/or cinematic is indicative of poor lyricism as much as a matter of personal preference (if that makes any sense). 
 
My appeal to NFR’s songwriting (especially in tracks like hope, The greatest, MAC) largely stems from how purposeful she utilizes her references, analogies, and sensory details. Not only that, but she also maintains a sense of intimacy even when she’s drawing from a pool of extremely specific life experiences; the line, “Serving up god in a burnt coffee pot for the triad,” is a great instance of this. 
 
Again, I totally agree that NFR has plenty moments where the writing is cliched or lacking in nuance, but the same could also be said for her other records as well. However, I’d argue that many of NFR’s most mature lyrical moments show a clear progression from the most developed of her past records, but that’s just me
 
also can’t figure out how to remove the spoiler so just ignore her lol

This is how I feel about Ultraviolence, too! I cannot explain how earth-shattering it was when the record finally clicked. For me, my pre-req for delving into UV was anguish & NFR’s was healing from it lmao
 
 

i definitely think it's cute and heart-felt, but i feel like she has plenty of other heart-felt, emotional material that is more impactful to me, i don't have anything against it personally but it's not her most stand-out cute, heart-felt track

It’s such a cute and cinematic-sounding song, but I find myself rarely listening to it because it does very little for me. It’s mostly a personal preference for me, but I 100% agree lol

love is kinda boring

I don’t know if it’s my all-time favorite bridge, but holy fuck is it good! The emotion paired with the key change really adds to how intense & dark the lyrics are 
 
You can completely tell Lana meant it when she said it was her most personal song from LFL

Absolutely. While I understand that many feel as though her characteristic soundscape wasn’t well-represented, I feel like the core identity of her artistry and what distinguishes her from other musicians was just as prominent on NFR as any other record she’s released. 
 
I think NFR convinced skeptics of her raw talent and insight without the need of lush production, and I think hope demonstrates this pretty well. With only a piano and her voice, she maintains this acutely introspective awareness of her own past and emotions that we’ve grown to admire. It’s beautiful & mature songwriting, and it’s so distinctly her own: a ballad chock-full of purposeful references and imagery that do not rely on the coloring of additional instrumentation. 
 
Does the record have weak moments? Sure, but I genuinely think NFR stands a great chance at being considered of the most timeless & objectively solid records released in the past few decades

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

Absolutely. While I understand that many feel as though her characteristic soundscape wasn’t well-represented, I feel like the core identity of her artistry and what distinguishes her from other musicians was just as prominent on NFR as any other record she’s released. 
 
I think NFR convinced skeptics of her raw talent and insight without the need of lush production, and I think hope demonstrates this pretty well. With only a piano and her voice, she maintains this acutely introspective awareness of her own past and emotions that we’ve grown to admire. It’s beautiful & mature songwriting, and it’s so distinctly her own: a ballad chock-full of purposeful references and imagery that do not rely on the coloring of additional instrumentation. 
 
Does the record have weak moments? Sure, but I genuinely think NFR stands a great chance at being considered of the most timeless & objectively solid records released in the past few decades

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

I can’t wait until we have both Chemtrails and Behind the Iron Gates together. Considering how recently the poetry from the book was written, I definitely think we should see some parallels between the record and her writing (assuming the book was largely written before recording the album). 

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

I don’t know if it’s my all-time favorite bridge, but holy fuck is it good! The emotion paired with the key change really adds to how intense & dark the lyrics are 
 
You can completely tell Lana meant it when she said it was her most personal song from LFL

I don’t know if it’s my all-time favorite bridge, but holy fuck is it good! The emotion paired with the key change really adds to how intense & dark the lyrics are 
 
You can completely tell Lana meant it when she said it was her most personal song from LFL

Heroin: Her best bridge. 

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included 

“objectively less corn” made me laugh thank you for this lol

I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. 
 
I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. 
 
In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me
 
also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol
 
edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included