wilting daisy

This!!!! Labels are behind this, they are the ones who take advantages of artists to earn money from them and rule in the charts.
 
That's why they let some artists switch album release dates, when an other artist from the same label is trying to release an album on that same date too (like Taylor's Red TV and Adele's 30) - because they're trying to earn as much money as possible and to rule at the top of the charts as long as possible.

contrary to what people in here might think, i actually do get annoyed by the "shady" vinyl tactics lol it's just not a taylor exclusive issue, lana has participated, olivia rodrigo does it, and so do soooo many artists. lana keeps advertising vinyl's as limited when in reality they just keep restocking them to the point where it's not really limited or rare anymore but it's a music industry issue, not a taylor issue. 

Why would I not go into the Taylor Swift thread to discuss Taylor Swift lmao… I gave very specific examples of how I think she’s exploiting her fans, it’s very clearly not about her just selling merch. Some of you swifties are very tiring immediately jumping on the defense while completely ignoring everything that’s being said. I’m not saying she’s the devil on earth should be burned at the stake and we should all boycott her (I still listen to her music and keep up with her releases), I’m simply acknowledging the fact that she exploits her fans.

at least with violet and chemtrails it was mostly just different vinyl colours so its easier for (some) fans to hold back from buying every variant but in general i think lots of artists (including lana) release way too many vinyl variants. and lanels only do this now bc they realized thwy can get fans to buy like 12 copies of the same album if the vinyl is a different colour wven if its just slight shade variations. even the barbie soundtrack had a bunch of variants and that was just so... excessive. even with lana's past few albums she has been releasing more alt covers than she used to and that's a little frustrating for me bc i don't get every variant but with lana (and only lana) i do always get 1 standard black and 1 coloured vinyl/alt cover and its hardwr to choose a second one now (yes, first world problems, i know lol). so the billions of vinyl variants thing isnt specifically a taylor thing and i think its a problem bc its so wasteful and especially when things are advertised as limited it makes fans more likely to make impulse buys to avoid fomo.

at least with violet and chemtrails it was mostly just different vinyl colours so its easier for (some) fans to hold back from buying every variant but in general i think lots of artists (including lana) release way too many vinyl variants. and lanels only do this now bc they realized thwy can get fans to buy like 12 copies of the same album if the vinyl is a different colour wven if its just slight shade variations. even the barbie soundtrack had a bunch of variants and that was just so... excessive. even with lana's past few albums she has been releasing more alt covers than she used to and that's a little frustrating for me bc i don't get every variant but with lana (and only lana) i do always get 1 standard black and 1 coloured vinyl/alt cover and its hardwr to choose a second one now (yes, first world problems, i know lol). so the billions of vinyl variants thing isnt specifically a taylor thing and i think its a problem bc its so wasteful and especially when things are advertised as limited it makes fans more likely to make impulse buys to avoid fomo.

Yeah that’s exactly what it comes down to… their main goal is to make money. Which is why I find it real odd when people are defending her with all their life and telling people to only stream the re-recordings of her music like there’s some kind of close connection they have with her. Swifties’ parasocial relationships with her get a bit too out of control. She’s here to make money, and she’s obviously good at doing so.

her team does that intensive marketing though, taylor herself rarely posts about that exclusive shit. republic records has to use that advantage to get cash lol
 
labels always use their artists fame for money, it's a known thing

they're booing you bc you're right. taylor's faux 'bff' relationship with her fans is used in the money making tactics her team pulls. idk why that's such a hard concept for people to acknowledge lol

A lot of you are completely missing the point omg it’s not about the amount of vinyl variations, it’s about the slimey tactics. Lana’s not out here releasing the same CD 4 times with each having a different journal knowing fans will buy several copies of the album to collect all 4 lmao. And I’d be saying the same about Lana if she was doing all that. Either way I don’t really care, but saying Taylor doesn’t exploit her fans is kinda delusional.

To be fair Lana actually told her fans to not worry about buying all the different record versions during the BB livestream she did. Definitely don’t think it is her choice. 

agree, especially as this is being framed as sort of a 'moral' thing to do in the age of TikTok virtue signalling and cancel culture; supporting taylor swift to get back at the 'evil' scooter braun. she's really struck well with the marketing.
don't get me wrong (aka don't attack me swifties) I think the re-recordings were a good idea and really shed a light on a problem (artists not properly owning the songs they write) but this cycle is really screaming cash grab, especially on the back of midnights releasing 4 vinyls to 'complete' an image of a clock, they didn't need to be vinyls she could have made really nice quality prints with a 'complete' version of the album with all the tracks on it. it's just encouraging more over consumption

i think marketing makes a huge difference here, lana isn't really involved and even said she doesn't care if her fans buy her shit, meanwhile taylor make huge countdowns, names everything limited and exclusive (which often turns out to be a bait) and tricks fans into buying her shit basically not knowing how it really looks (e.g. 1989 cds); the list really can go on and on

Well yeah, but most kids don't have like that crazy amount of money to buy all these expensive stuff together, the money comes mostly from their parents and weird is that some parents actually let them buy that many merch. Maybe it's just an American thing because I haven't seen that kind of things in Europe.
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It's kinda weird seeing Lana fans complain over Taylor and her team releasing many versions of her albums as if Lana and her team hasn't done the same thing (especially in COTCC era) and the fans going as crazy for this as Swifties do 
 
Again, I'm just anti-merch

Also selling CDs with their cover hidden for a limited time so that fans can't even make an informed decision on which one to get 

I feel like some people like Swifties (and sometimes Lana fans) take buying merch too seriously, no one really forces you to do that  

You really can't deny that she takes advantage of her fans' parasocial relationship with her. It's very blatant and she has absolutely no shame about it. This is the same woman that drops different vinyl variations one at a time for a limited time only instead of just dropping them all at once. The same woman that released 4 "Journal Versions" of Lover with each having a different journal so fans will buy 4 copies. The same woman that made the back of the different Midnights variations on both vinyl and CD form a clock so fans would buy all 4, along with a clock stand for both vinyl and CD. And it doesn't end there. She's not your friend, she's a business woman. Putting energy into defending her and telling people to stream the (inferior) "Taylor's Version"s of albums is crazy to me. (mainly directed at the twitter swifties, haven't see much of that behaviour on here)

i don't think thw people saying they like everything lana puts out are implying that you have to like wverything she releases or that its bad to have any criticisms of her work. some of us just genuinely are happy with whatever she releases bc we're so emotionally invested in her work and we like a large variety of musical styles so we're not easily disappointed in her output. we all still have preferences and sometimes songs need time to grow on us. we don't think we're better fans for being happy with whatever she releases. we're just sharing that we're always happy to get new music from her. like its not that serious.

i know these songs are all very different but kill kill, salvatore, venice bitch

I feel like if 24 was on James Bond people would have got more attention.
 
I love 24 so much, it's so goooooooooooood

Beautiful and Sweet if you’re reading just know you are loved. You are worthy. You are perfect just the way you are. And the people who put you down are just Ugly. and Sour

To me, it would be Buddy’s Rendezvous, title track to Ocean Blvd and Venice Bitch or FIILY (she shines in electric guitar songs)

wishing a full album with the cinematic vibes of
The Grants, DYKTTATUOB, Candy Necklace and Let The Light In

Buddy's Rendezvous, Arcadia, Sad Girl
 
Jazzy, with dark, cinematic vibes
 

Taste ! 
I second this. Some jazzy and orchestral songs.
I would add some more experimental songs like A&W or VB ant it would be perfect.

A&W (first half), Cruel World, and Grandfather
 
Gives us dark DRAMA!