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  1. fessle liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Lorde   
    wow thank you for this response. it's very non-emotional and honest and you seem to respect my opinions without criticizing them! thanks!
     
    ok so first, i get what you're saying about some of lana's lyrics being over the top, but the way i view almost every song on born to die and paradise is that they are completely driven by the production, and lana's lyrics are just like a little layer of flowers on top of an actual work of art. it's easy for me to imagine her listening to the instrumental version of cola and then spontaneously "rapping" over the "beat" with poetry that doesn't even really make sense. it's all imagery and that's why i love poetry- it has form with no function. i hope this makes sense because it's hard to explain and i'm not as developed poetically like lana is (haha..............) basically i view her as a rapper in her released songs. i focus a lot more on the soundscape of american and the YEAHS in the background of diet mtn dew than i focus on the actual lyrics. literally the lyrics almost don't even make sense. these songs are more like sonic paintings than they are substantial functional stories.
     
    however, her unreleased songs are much more song-like and can stand on their own as poems. methamphetamines is one of my absolute favorite poems of all time. the way i can explain this is that methamphetamines is a poem whereas black beauty is a story, but they are essentially the same subject- relationship deterioration due to drug use. in my opinion, all art can either be categorized as a poem, a story, or both. most of lana's songs are both, but some are only one or the other. video games is just perfect. it's just perfect production and lyrics. but when i want to listen to the poetry, i almost always choose the demo over the album version. actually i barely ever ever ever even listen to born to die or paradise, and i prefer the demos over the album versions. when i want to listen to the production, i'll listen to the album from start to finish and not even think about what the lyrics are. i almost view them more as like a flute in the background. her voice becomes an instrument in the released songs, where it is more of a tool in her acoustic and unreleased songs.
     
    anyway. lorde is like a little babyyyy! she's as honest and expressive as possible, but her released songs are just not poems. they are stories. and good relatable pop stories. i just don't view lorde as an artist. her production allows me to take her seriously as a performer, but i'm sure when lana was 16 she wasn't as developed as she is now. the truth is just that 16 year olds really don't have much to say! lord needs to experience a little more life before she translates her life experience into a work of art.
     
    does lorde have any unreleased songs? i haven't even
     
    ok i'm literally listening to pure heroine right now and it's really not that bad so like i kind of digress but still lana>lorde
     
    anyway. i haven't even looked up to see if lorde has any unreleased songs. i hear what you're saying about her still being able to be an artist at 16, but like when it comes to poetry, unfortunately most young people don't know anything. like i'm 19 and i'm a poet, as is anyone else who chooses to be one, and i do my best with making poems but they're just not good because i don't have enough experience in writing. it takes a while for people to develop their own style of poetry, and while i'm happy that lorde is like super famous and gonna be super successful now, i just think it's unfortunate that she only has the first 16 years of her life to go off of for inspiration. does this make sense at all? like, now her life is being famous, and maybe she can give her listeners some insight into fame, but she can't tell the story of TIWMUG because her sixteen year old life is apparently "boring compared to other people" and she called herself an internet kid because new zealand is not that culturally rich. i'm sure she's capable of amazing art, but so is anyone who commits themselves to creation.
  2. VioletsnRoses liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in 1949   
    i love it too!! i think it's her song that's most directly based on (the novel) lolita. it really tells a story well and the melody is so fresh. and the line "july to july" is genius!
  3. blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Methamphetamines   
    i think this song is beautiful. it's similar to black beauty, but it's more poetic than descriptive. i think the idea behind the song is that she is relating the deterioration of her life and her lover's life to the deterioration of beaches on the east coast. these places were once full of such joy and youth and a type of ignorant innocence, and now they are barren and trashed and spoiled. the image of "neon palm sway" is incredibly genius to me. very sad. and very powerful for an a cappella song! definitely one of my absolute favorites. it's very brave and very sweet (like leonard cohen's description of janis joplin in chelsea hotel no. 2).
  4. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Queen Of The Gas Station   
    are you sure it's not "saw one like that in new mexico" ?
  5. James19709 liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Queen Of The Gas Station   
    are you sure it's not "saw one like that in new mexico" ?
  6. Sitar liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Queen Of The Gas Station   
    are you sure it's not "saw one like that in new mexico" ?
  7. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in That One Song You CRAVE For   
    Everything I want I have 
  8. Wryta Thinkpiece liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Video Games   
    i can say from experience that when you are sitting next to a man you may possibly love while he just plays video games and you just sit there and think fuck, this is how she felt when she wrote the song, the song really makes a lot more sense. it's about helplessness and finding freedom in simplicity and humility. it's also beautiful poetry. the combination of images is unique and stirring.
  9. Wryta Thinkpiece liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Methamphetamines   
    I don't know if it really changes what I take from the song. I think any Elvis song would have the same effect.
  10. Fingertips liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Methamphetamines   
    i think this song is beautiful. it's similar to black beauty, but it's more poetic than descriptive. i think the idea behind the song is that she is relating the deterioration of her life and her lover's life to the deterioration of beaches on the east coast. these places were once full of such joy and youth and a type of ignorant innocence, and now they are barren and trashed and spoiled. the image of "neon palm sway" is incredibly genius to me. very sad. and very powerful for an a cappella song! definitely one of my absolute favorites. it's very brave and very sweet (like leonard cohen's description of janis joplin in chelsea hotel no. 2).
  11. Mafiosa liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Methamphetamines   
    i think this song is beautiful. it's similar to black beauty, but it's more poetic than descriptive. i think the idea behind the song is that she is relating the deterioration of her life and her lover's life to the deterioration of beaches on the east coast. these places were once full of such joy and youth and a type of ignorant innocence, and now they are barren and trashed and spoiled. the image of "neon palm sway" is incredibly genius to me. very sad. and very powerful for an a cappella song! definitely one of my absolute favorites. it's very brave and very sweet (like leonard cohen's description of janis joplin in chelsea hotel no. 2).
  12. James19709 liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Methamphetamines   
    i think this song is beautiful. it's similar to black beauty, but it's more poetic than descriptive. i think the idea behind the song is that she is relating the deterioration of her life and her lover's life to the deterioration of beaches on the east coast. these places were once full of such joy and youth and a type of ignorant innocence, and now they are barren and trashed and spoiled. the image of "neon palm sway" is incredibly genius to me. very sad. and very powerful for an a cappella song! definitely one of my absolute favorites. it's very brave and very sweet (like leonard cohen's description of janis joplin in chelsea hotel no. 2).
  13. James19709 liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Video Games   
    i can say from experience that when you are sitting next to a man you may possibly love while he just plays video games and you just sit there and think fuck, this is how she felt when she wrote the song, the song really makes a lot more sense. it's about helplessness and finding freedom in simplicity and humility. it's also beautiful poetry. the combination of images is unique and stirring.
  14. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by COLACNT in SONIC EQUIVALENTS   
    lmao if anyone ever wondered what brite lites sounds likes slowed down: 
     
    http://picosong.com/RpDL
     
    maybe this can be a place to post like, random audio tweaks in general, cause it sounds unexpectedly novel like this 
  15. prettydrugs liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Lana Del Rey Officially Announces TROPICO, "Coming to a City Near You"   
    i know it was most likely a mistake, but i like that idea of making gods and monsters possessive. the idea of god and monsters owning something gives them a stronger sense of power, which, when applied to the song itself, creates a totally different dynamic. it's like a lyrical remix in a way. sorry i'm weird.
  16. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Recurring Lyrical Themes and Words   
    + Oh Say Can You See "The voice of Nirvana says 'Come as You Are'"
  17. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Recurring Lyrical Themes and Words   
    buy me coca-cola in the middle of the night
     
    queen:
    of new york
    of saigon
    of alchemy of the gas station of coney island/coney island queen of the night beauty queen degenerate beauty queen sparkle jump rope queen new jersey dance queen queen diana queen of disaster blue 50's queen
  18. YUNGATA liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Recurring Lyrical Themes and Words   
    buy me coca-cola in the middle of the night
     
    queen:
    of new york
    of saigon
    of alchemy of the gas station of coney island/coney island queen of the night beauty queen degenerate beauty queen sparkle jump rope queen new jersey dance queen queen diana queen of disaster blue 50's queen
  19. yayoop liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Recurring Lyrical Themes and Words   
    buy me coca-cola in the middle of the night
     
    queen:
    of new york
    of saigon
    of alchemy of the gas station of coney island/coney island queen of the night beauty queen degenerate beauty queen sparkle jump rope queen new jersey dance queen queen diana queen of disaster blue 50's queen
  20. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by evilentity in Cola   
    How can ketamine do time or be tried for double homicide?
  21. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by DominicMars in Black Beauty   
    Black Beauties are another word for the drug speed, in case anyone hadn't heard that. Love it
  22. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by keanefar in What Upcoming Releases Are You Looking Forward To?   
    MGMT - MGMT  (September 17)
    Lana Del Rey - Third album
  23. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by cartoon eyes in Alternative Song Titles   
    St. Tropez = Leaked
     
    Party Girl (2:12) = Unleaked
     

  24. Rebel liked a post in a topic by FIREANDWATER in Misheard Lana Lyrics   
    sorry, my bad!
  25. FIREANDWATER liked a post in a topic by Hundred Dollar Bill in Misheard Lana Lyrics   
    All I ever hear is babbling. Whenever anyone talks to me, I just don't understand what they're saying. 
     

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