Escapism

Honestly bad move for her career to change her name, but if she really wanted to change it she should've gone with Marina Diamandis, not just MARINA. like girl-

I tbh will never understand why her management let her change her stage name to just MARINA… like girl… it’s not a super unique name 😭 there are gonna be other artists named marina..
the amount of times random musicians songs have appeared on her artist pages is insane 
 
also? sounds about as bland as her music became so maybe it fits idk, but at least matd or Marina Diamandis have a little spice to em 

I think this was just marina's bad decision, although her label have done some problematic things, I think marina is also to blame for her weird career choices.
MARINA makes her much harder in to find in search results, if she had a unique name like Beyonce or Adele then it would be fine but 'marina' is also a word. it also means her website is marinaofficial.co.uk, if you go to marinaofficial.com it's a different artist called marina I cannot see why a label would suggest 'MARINA' over 'Marina Diamandis'

lanadelrey, honeymoon, burthdaycake, notoriouswhitegirl, oceanblvd
 
am I missing any?

Totally see her doin that 

man i really cant take yall seriously when i got ice spice's ass shaking in my face

the gag of someone telling her to never work with jack antonoff 

a hundred percent  

Doesn't she have a festival next month? Is she gonna be performing only 4-8 year old material 

i mean.... we dont really know what happened so i think only assuming that marina was the one to drop lana after QFTC is a little out of touch and should really only be taken as speculative than as factual... though i wont say its a reach because i also wouldnt be surprised if that was the case..
but for example lana also has had multiple relationships where she was good friends with someone and then they disappear from her life (or at least what we see), such as with jaime king or johnny blueeyes
 
 
though i do agree marinas feminism is certainly something LMFAO.....and by something i mean post - FROOT a good chunk of it started lacking depth and more like she was spewing out whatever modern day issues she saw on the news was with some bits about being self made millionaire different kinda woman in hollywood ft. stuff she learned during her psychology classes that she took during her break from music
* where as with her earlier works, her more feminism esque songs felt like something she was genuinely connected/related to than just trying to get across some sort of woke message

i’m so bored with her can someone please just leak some 10 year old demos or something
 
7 minute froot is awaiting her moment.

it's crazy how we have like 8 AS outtakes and only 3 K12 songs... Michael Keenan leaks are rare

i spent like 20 minutes looking for this, thank you for reminding me of this 

since this thread "girl needs to get diamonds back" and "L+F is bad" bores me to death, on a positive note I'd like to point that Electra Heart is now Platinum eligible in the US and The Family Jewels is close to Gold, but Marina would need to buy the certificate herself since probably Atlantic cannot do it anymore.

im convinced that she was bound by contract that she needed to release an album every x amount of years. I remember one interview where she just randomly went "yeah, y'know it's not because I've signed a contract with atlantic records and I need to fulfil that contract". Like no one even questioned it, at all? But also she was like after a year of quitting I was still writing and wasn't allowing myself to stop. She quit in 2016, meaning she fully allowed herself to quit in 2017 (but a majority of LF outtakes were recorded during this time, so when did she quit? It definitely wasn't in 2018 because she recorded most of the final tracklist during this time. so um girl when did you properly quit?
I think the earlier tracks from the album are much better. I think she was writing for herself, opposed to release something. Then as she begun to come back to music more, she felt more pressured. But then she said that LF was made from a place that was not influenced by ego or validation.
Maybe it's the 4th album curse, idk. But I would've never seen marina make L+F, it's like so different, it feels so incohesive in my opinion, like AllForYou said, she used to do complete packages, Land + Fill felt more like an envelope that was posted without a postage stamp and got lost in the royal mail strikes. Like the only final LF tracks I could see Marina writing would be To Be Human, Handmade Heaven, Too Afraid and Soft To Be Strong, maybe End of The Earth too.
How did she go from puns like Shampain, EVOL and Just Desserts, that were all very well written, and authentic to her (imo) to OOOOORANGE TREES.
 

It seems so sinful…   

She’s just a cringey millennial, I’m not sure how deep it really is lol

I feel like there's honestly not much to say. 
She just became what she truly despised in the past. As much as she likes to think she's too cool/different for the pop scene, she alwas has been in search of approval from people and critics. Hence the politically correct/superficially woke/universal lyrics she's writing right now. 
 
I don't necessarily think she doesn't know what to write about anymore or lacks challenges in her life to keep her art interesting. It's mainly she somehow developped the idea that people can't relate to her own experiences and that she NEEDS to be universal. Thing is, she's so detached it becomes bland, impersonal and, ironically, unrelatable. 
 
I'm not sure if it makes sense, but for me, the more the story is personal and detailed, the more I'm able to relate to it, even though I didn't experience 100% of the events. It's like I'm able to find myself and a universal truth in the most personal stories, while feeling completely left behind by her attempted universal lyrics. The fact her commentary is so surface-level doesn't help. We get it, patriarchy made women's lives hell. So? How did it impact you? How do you fight it in your daily life? 
 
 
Anyway, I believe she sought out approval so hard she lost herself (and some of her fans along the way). It's already been discussed by many recently, but it truly weakened her whole art to try and fail to please everyone. 

Im laughing so hard with your rant!! I cant 
 
but you do have a point, seems most of us gravitare more towards her Marina And the Diamonds stuff…
 
that Baby sht with Clean Bandit really was the beginning of the end for her. Like a Illuminati initiation BS  everything that made her unique is gone now 

Her post-Diamonds flop era needs to be studied 

not me coming into this thread to read marinara needs dr. rape in 2023, the final nail in her career coffin

I agree with you, she doesnt seem inspired anymore… a shame, but Im happy for her doing well 

i wouldnt say lfl is her best album but there’s something about it that makes me so happy, it’s definitely her most interesting and inspired album 

def not her best album (it's hm) but u ate with most of this 

I’m pretty new to this site and I didn’t expect an in-depth discussion here about Melanie and resources for some unreleased songs!. I recently got into her and fell in love with Cry Baby, not as much with K-12. I’ve read back a few pages and thanks everyone for all the unreleased suggestions! Trophy sounds really good