TrashMagiq 55,592 Posted February 27, 2019 No one dislikes it, it'd just be cool if she put an alternate mix on the album with extra things to fill in the silent gaps. I know people love those gaps and something something depressional late at night beauty but it would just be nice. Then everyone wins I've seen lots of people trash it for those exact reasons, not saying the conversation that was going on about there being an alternative mix were hating on the song tho, I agree w that tbh. I would love if she did something like having a version of Hope with more production being in the regular tracklist with the piano version as a bonus track at the end of the album tbh. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,346 Posted February 27, 2019 I'll never get why people dislike hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have - but i have it's production, the fact that it's so stripped back makes me love it even more. The flaws make it perfect for me tbh. It sounds raw. It's one of those songs that don't need a grand production, like 'Liability', 'New Year's Day' and 'Happy Birthday, Johnny'. Liability and Happy Birthday Johnny are also boring as hell and amongst the worst ones (if not the worst) from Melodrama and Masseduction, but at least Lorde's and St. Vincent's vocals are somewhat interesting and they carry the song well, unlike Hope (and I'm not that fond of Hope's lyrics too, but that's a personal complain). New Years Day can't relate because the lyrics are sublime and the stripped down production actually makes sense in the context of the album: she sings about discovering this new love and going through things throught the whole thing and, in the end, when she's settled with a guy she actually loves and appreciates her for who she really is, she sings about the part of love no one sings about, the part where the both of them do mundane things like cleaning bottles together after a party and realizing how in love they are. It's a brilliant closer imo. 0 into your eyes my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoreCruelThanYou 5,277 Posted February 27, 2019 I feel like Lana won't release the album until we forgive her for being messy, stop expecting it from her, and go back to worshipping her. Its a Catch 22 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,346 Posted February 27, 2019 Also I'd like to apologize for talking so much shit about Hope I bet it's kinda annoying to be so negative about a song and I know there are a lot of people here who like it, but I just despise that song and I think it's the laziest, most boring, most uninspired and messiest piece of work Lana has ever put out, ever. 0 into your eyes my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
violets 11,893 Posted February 27, 2019 THERE IS NO REASON TO HOLD BACK THIS ALBUM ANY LONGER! ALL 3 SONGS HAVE HAD ACCLAIM AND REALLY POSITIVE REVIEWS SHE'S NOT LOOKING FOR A HIT SINGLE THE ALBUM IS FINISHED NOBODY ELSE KNOWS IT EXISTS LANA IS REFUSING TO DO PROMO DROP THE FUCKING ALBUM ALREADY AND MOVE ON! its even worse bc the album has a 10% chance of coming in march... we really have to wait another month now and thats IF april she then decides to release. make it make sense 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 71,854 Posted February 27, 2019 hope would be a nice closer, or if not the second to last; kinda like change 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honey dew 10,575 Posted February 27, 2019 Also I'd like to apologize for talking so much shit about Hope I bet it's kinda annoying to be so negative about a song and I know there are a lot of people here who like it, but I just despise that song and I think it's the laziest, most boring, most uninspired and messiest piece of work Lana has ever put out, ever. and you have the right to espouse your deluded opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetie 6,615 Posted February 27, 2019 Also I'd like to apologize for talking so much shit about Hope I bet it's kinda annoying to be so negative about a song and I know there are a lot of people here who like it, but I just despise that song and I think it's the laziest, most boring, most uninspired and messiest piece of work Lana has ever put out, ever. That's lowkey how I feel about Venice Bitch, minus the boring part. It just seems like something she ad-libbed over Jack pressing random keys on the synth. So sloppy, lazy and messy. The lyrics are very elementary as well. I love HIADT. It's certainly not a compositional masterpiece but I relate to the lyrics and I feel like she speaks to my soul. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 71,634 Posted February 27, 2019 That's lowkey how I feel about Venice Bitch, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SlowGinFizzzz 15,310 Posted February 27, 2019 hope would be a nice closer, or if not the second to last; kinda like change 1. MAC 2. NFR ---whatever--- 12. Hope 13. How To Disappear 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,346 Posted February 27, 2019 If there's one thing I know about Lana is that her closers are always fucking good. Lucky Ones, Flipside, Swan Song (sorry DLMBM) and Get Free are career highlights and I have faith in her to serve a closer just as good for NFR. (I'm 100% sure none of the songs we've already heard are closers) 3 into your eyes my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PerwinkleDreams 6,797 Posted February 27, 2019 I like Hope's instrumental, melody, Lana's vocals, etc. Just not too fond of some of the lyrics. In particular: "I got to thinking that I thought" "Hello it's the most famous woman you know on the iPad" "Shaking my ass is the only thing that's Got this black narcissist off my back She couldn't care less, and I never cared more So there's no more to say about that" BUT, just to end on a positive note so you guys don't have an aneurysm trying to understand how I don't necessarily enjoy some of the lyrics, I do enjoy: "Spilling my guts with the Bowery bums Is the only love I've ever known" "Calling from beyond the grave I just wanna say, hi dad" "Monsters still under my bed that I could never fight off" The bad lyrics equal out the good lyrics and make it a good song, rather than amazing song. That's just my opinion though! If you feel the need to read me, why not instead tell me all the reasons why you love HIADT without attacking me or putting down other songs! Let's go bitches! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrashMagiq 55,592 Posted February 27, 2019 people still pretending that venice bitch is bad.. the stench 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,346 Posted February 27, 2019 I like Hope's instrumental, melody, Lana's vocals, etc. Just not too fond of some of the lyrics. In particular: "I got to thinking that I thought" "Hello it's the most famous woman you know on the iPad" "Shaking my ass is the only thing that's Got this black narcissist off my back She couldn't care less, and I never cared more So there's no more to say about that" BUT, just to end on a positive note so you guys don't have an aneurysm trying to understand how I don't necessarily enjoy some of the lyrics, I do enjoy: "Spilling my guts with the Bowery bums Is the only love I've ever known" "Calling from beyond the grave I just wanna say, hi dad" "Monsters still under my bed that I could never fight off" The bad lyrics equal out the good lyrics and make it a good song, rather than amazing song. That's just my opinion though! If you feel the need to read me, why not instead tell me all the reasons why you love HIADT without attacking me or putting down other songs! Let's go bitches! EXACTLY. Most of the lyrics are cringe worthy for me and I really don't like the production so there's nothing I really like about this song. 1 into your eyes my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PerwinkleDreams 6,797 Posted February 27, 2019 people still pretending that venice bitch is bad.. the stench Some Venice Bitch lyrics are unnecessary, none that I'll call out though just because Venice Bitch fans are literally like our version of Jehovah's Witnesses, but overall the song is far from bad and has a fresh fun vibe Lana's never explored before. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335 Posted February 27, 2019 The worst thing is that Lana declared she was working on Sylvia in earlier 2018 and then she decided to release it a whole year after, like... you had a full year to work in your song and the result was a 5mins ballad composed by a very quiet piano and lead vocals? girl... 3 "ser bella me dio privilegios, pero ser astuta me dio poder" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArtDecoDelRey 15,263 Posted February 27, 2019 The worst thing is that Lana declared she was working on Sylvia in earlier 2018 and then she decided to release it a whole year after, like... you had a fully year to work in your song and the result was a 5mins ballad composed by a very quiet piano and lead vocals? girl... the worst thing she did to that song imo is change the name 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PerwinkleDreams 6,797 Posted February 27, 2019 EXACTLY. Most of the lyrics are cringe worthy for me and I really don't like the production so there's nothing I really like about this song. I think simplistic songs are something that have to grow on you. I love them, but it took me a long while to get there. As for the lyrics, this song in my opinion holds some of Lana's most innovative lyrics, and some of her worst lyrics ever. So they kinda equal the song out for me and make it okay overall. Her voice sounds good and crystal clear too, gotta thank Jack for that one 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335 Posted February 27, 2019 Venice Perra is a bop but it was literally so madly overrated 6 "ser bella me dio privilegios, pero ser astuta me dio poder" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites