Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[West Coast 45,795]

I've got to agree. Ultraviolence is an incredible album, and back then it was like goddamn, her best ever... I still think Honeymoon is slightly her very best record, but Norman is just another league. It's simply better than most of her discography. It has the 'classic' feeling only Born to Die had, while her other projects felt more like 'cult' albums.

 

It's not a coincidence that Norman is already a 21st century classique... it's not only that the industry finally accepted and understood her. The album itself is grand. Right album, right time...

 

This I agree with: "Right album, right time". Lana is at a pivotal moment in her career. After year of being considered and regarded as a problematic figure on the music scene, I genuinely believe that some of her most fervent critics have finally softened up to her. Also, lyrically, NFR happens to be her least "controversial" effort thus far, it's much less tainted with sense of mystery/mysticism but also the so called "edgy" lyrics of her first three records. I still don't think critics "get her", I think they would still give subpar reviews to her first three records to be honest.

 

I wholeheartedly disagree on this though. I do not get a sense of the classic, let alone grand feeling, nor the same level of intricacy both lyrically and melodically than what she has displayed on Born To Die/Paradise, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon. NFR doesn't stand out like that in her discography in my opinion. Though it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb much like Lust for Life, to me it still feel very underwhelming and somewhat lackluster in many regards. But to each their own.

[necessary sacrifice 8,865]

Am I the only one who thinks Honeymoon was actually way tamer than Norman fucking Rockwell?

[West Coast 45,795]

Am I the only one who thinks Honeymoon was actually way tamer than Norman fucking Rockwell?

 

Softer melodically? Absolutely.

Tamer? I don't think so.

[necessary sacrifice 8,865]

Softer melodically? Absolutely.

Tamer? I don't think so.

I meant lyrically and thematically tamer, not that it’s slower. It’s probably the tamest Lana album actually. Even when it came out, people were saying the critics liked it only because she toned down her lyrics and themes so much. It’s not a criticism, part of its charm is how tame it is. Like NFR May be way tamer than UV or AKA, but it’s definitely not nearly as tame as HM.

[West Coast 45,795]

I meant lyrically and thematically tamer, not that it’s slower. It’s probably the tamest Lana album actually. Even when it came out, people were saying the critics liked it only because she toned down her lyrics and themes so much. It’s not a criticism, part of its charm is how tame it is.

 

I didn't mean softer as in slower, I find the melody and sound of the album to be much softer/delicate, aerial/ethereal or lush if you will than NFR. But also, I find that Honeymoon has that little je ne sais quoi, or quintessential Lana "feel" lyrically, that sense of mystery or mysticism you know? So in that regard I find the lyrics on NFR to be more tamed, or casual (almost subpar?) compared to Honeymoon if that make sense.

[Foxglove 2,266]

Am I the only one who thinks Honeymoon was actually way tamer than Norman fucking Rockwell?

Honeymoon has this hypnotic feel to the entire album.  Like the songs themselves are the tip of a massive iceberg lurking beneath the surface.  NFR feels like it's all out on the surface with not as much depth to me

[bored 7,938]

I meant lyrically and thematically tamer, not that it’s slower. It’s probably the tamest Lana album actually. Even when it came out, people were saying the critics liked it only because she toned down her lyrics and themes so much. It’s not a criticism, part of its charm is how tame it is. Like NFR May be way tamer than UV or AKA, but it’s definitely not nearly as tame as HM.

 

Hmmm, I don't think lyrically it strays too far away from classic Lana, if anything I'd say that the majority of LFL was much tamer than NFR. Something about this record just feels really different to me? Like LFL is my least favourite and at times felt very forced-happy (Love, LFL, Get Free etc) but it still felt like classic Lana (13 Beaches, Cherry etc)...

 

I don't know if I'm making sense but like it's kinda like all the pieces are still there, they just don't fit together the same way they used to

[Jared 3,131]

 

 

https://mixwiththemasters.com/itt35

 

1 hour and 45 minutes long NFR documentary with legendary producer and genius Jack Antonoff? NFR stans just can't stop winning. 

 

[West Coast 45,795]

1 hour and 45 minutes long NFR documentary with legendary producer and genius Jack Antonoff?

 

Feel free to waste 320$, what a bargain.

 

That's it, this era has reached its ridicule peak. 

[SparkleJumpropeNoose 8,750]

I hate bitches with receding hairlines. Jack Antonoff is bitches

[movebaby 5,379]

honeymoon? tame? are we hearing the same fuckin record

[West Coast 45,795]

honeymoon? tame? are we hearing the same fuckin record

 

Hearing impairment is very common.

[movebaby 5,379]

Hearing impairment is very common.

 

sad but true! luckily help is out there: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hearing-loss/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20373077

[bored 7,938]

So, we ever getting those Chuck music videos?

[Make me your Dream Life 87,880]

So, we ever getting those Chuck music videos?

 

this post, ur username. The synergy like wow ur soul's just potent here 

[Life 3,966]

Feel free to waste 320$, what a bargain.

 

That's it, this era has reached its ridicule peak. 

 

y'all are dumb - you can literally just sub $26 for one month and watch/download it. for an 1hr 45 mins of Jack going through the production (if you're into music production) is totally worth it.

[movebaby 5,379]

 

y'all are dumb - you can literally just sub $26 for one month and watch/download it. for an 1hr 45 mins of Jack going through the production (if you're into music production) is totally worth it.

 

 

nice to see the name change hasn't affected your proclivity for sweeping, categorical insults

[LanaCharts 1,980]

When HTD goes #1 in 25 years just like AIWFCIY... yup yup

[Terrence Loves Me 72,696]

Lana didnt date barry and noodle boy just for you fags to call NFR her best album

[West Coast 45,795]

 

y'all are dumb - you can literally just sub $26 for one month and watch/download it. for an 1hr 45 mins of Jack going through the production (if you're into music production) is totally worth it.

 

 

It's still money wasted to me.

 

I'm not interested in the slightest to know how Jack ruined this entire album with his shitty input as a "producer" no matter how much your or JackJared or anyone are trying to push him down our throat as an allege "musical genius".