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I just saw her post and I actually laughed out loud

 

cuntissimo 

 

I love her. This is not a shade post I just genuinely thought it was funny and I cannot wait to hear it  


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2 hours ago, crematorium said:

the hipocrisy on how she said she wanted to move away from electra heart, how she's a changed woman tuning into her own psyche and now she's milking the tiktok 20 sec spectacle of ego? like bitch be for fucking real..... the need to stay relevant using tools that have aged like milk................................................. girl get a grip..... so fed up with this woman snjfkjwfoiwejfowfoiwfoiefjwoefef

and if i hear one more song recorded in a villa about capitalism making us poor im gonna eject out of here..... these people are going crazy and so am i...

he pronouns and you’re calling a woman a bitch for not catering to you and wanting to do what she wants to do. right… right… :xgiggle:

 


inherited your dad’s crazy eyes, history repeats our whole damn lives

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2 hours ago, crematorium said:

the hipocrisy on how she said she wanted to move away from electra heart, how she's a changed woman tuning into her own psyche and now she's milking the tiktok 20 sec spectacle of ego? like bitch be for fucking real..... the need to stay relevant using tools that have aged like milk................................................. girl get a grip..... so fed up with this woman snjfkjwfoiwejfowfoiwfoiefjwoefef

and if i hear one more song recorded in a villa about capitalism making us poor im gonna eject out of here..... these people are going crazy and so am i...

The way this is just misogynistic and disgusting

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2 hours ago, crematorium said:

the hipocrisy on how she said she wanted to move away from electra heart, how she's a changed woman tuning into her own psyche and now she's milking the tiktok 20 sec spectacle of ego? like bitch be for fucking real..... the need to stay relevant using tools that have aged like milk................................................. girl get a grip..... so fed up with this woman snjfkjwfoiwejfowfoiwfoiefjwoefef

and if i hear one more song recorded in a villa about capitalism making us poor im gonna eject out of here..... these people are going crazy and so am i...

what the fuck are you even talking about 


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3 hours ago, lvrdve said:

“cunting soon…” oh she’s serving…

 

kinda love how bad she seems to want it this era like…

if the album cover looks similar to this or yesterday’s promo pic im going to blow up in confetti


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I think that look is definitely a reference to electra heart, but I don't think she's playing electra heart again or that this is a continuation of the story. 

when she was signed she couldn't have a music video for bubblegum bitch because it contained 'bitch', now she's independent she can use the word 'cunt' as a title, on a billboard and in a music video.

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well it was 13 years ago, it's not her being signed as a problem, who even cares about radio these days. also laughable how 679 complained about not being able to send Bubblegum Bitch to radios as if they were active in promoting Power & Control etc. Marina's drunken hateful tweets on the label were a marvel. you had to be there


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11 hours ago, TrashMagiq said:

marina referencing electra heart kinda reminds me of when nikki blonsky starts singing songs from hairspray in 2025 bsdjfh

And when I buy a cameo from Electra? Then we’ll finally have Bubblegum bitch video WAITTTT

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13 hours ago, Tasty said:

The way this is just misogynistic and disgusting

 

their post isn't any more misogynistic than a lot of yall get when lana doesn't release something, calling her a puta. i haven't seen it as much this era, but let's not be two sides of the same coin. 

 

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i don't fully agree with that post, but they aren't completely wrong about the anti-capitalism messages being overdone by her by now. the pro-women message is overdone too at this point from her -  we get it, women deserve rights (abortion, etc) but how many times does she have the same thing to say before she's finally done saying it? and let's not forget her business relies solely on capitalism and yet she's against it, it's weird and feels disingenuous 


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6 minutes ago, American Whore said:

i don't fully agree with that post, but they aren't completely wrong about the anti-capitalism messages being overdone by her by now. the pro-women message is overdone too at this point from her -  we get it, women deserve rights (abortion, etc) but how many times does she have the same thing to say before she's finally done saying it? and let's not forget her business relies solely on capitalism and yet she's against it, it's weird and feels disingenuous 

I mean I'm a little bit tired of the political songs, but it's her art and career, I think if she feels the need to keep singing about it she can, and if I don't want to hear anymore of it I know I can just not listen. Also, I don't even think she has that many songs that are particularly "anti-capitalist," it's like one or two lines in one or two songs lmao. 

 

As for the claim that she’s being disingenuous for criticizing capitalism.... everyone participates in capitalism by working, buying, and selling. Just because we live and act within a system that currently has no practical alternative doesn’t mean we can’t critique its flaws, and I don't really see an issue with her using her platform to shed light on that.

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I'm sorry but where is the anti-capitalist lyric/message in this song? or cupid's girl? or butterfly? she's literally not said one word about capitalism this era, and she actually acknowledged fan criticism about purge the poison at the time, which she usually doesn't, she ignores it and moves on. marina isn't perfect and she is definitely out of touch at times and I'll criticise her when she does something dumb, as I have been doing, but I don't think this is a valid complaint.

 

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31 minutes ago, American Whore said:

 

their post isn't any more misogynistic than a lot of yall get when lana doesn't release something, calling her a puta. i haven't seen it as much this era, but let's not be two sides of the same coin. 

 

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i don't fully agree with that post, but they aren't completely wrong about the anti-capitalism messages being overdone by her by now. the pro-women message is overdone too at this point from her -  we get it, women deserve rights (abortion, etc) but how many times does she have the same thing to say before she's finally done saying it? and let's not forget her business relies solely on capitalism and yet she's against it, it's weird and feels disingenuous 

1. I, personally, am not a Lana fan. I've never ever called her a puta the short time I've been in this forum. In fact, I haven't even mentioned her in this thread because this is Marina's thread. I have read many posts of people comparing Lana to Marina to degrade the later one, which absolutely sucks.

2. Marina has clarified that she thinks capitalism made us poor mentally, and yes, of course: her business relies on capitalism. What did you expect? she's an artist, and now an independent one. I do think her prices have been a bit too high, though, but how come you will drag her for selling stuff when her career is being an artist? how do you expect her, based on her career, to make money?

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17 hours ago, shay said:

i still dont fully understand why she changed the name. but thats okay because its not mine to understand and i doubt id really understand it unless i had a similar experience i could relate it to, which i dont. but i agree that dropping "and the diamonds" had some sort of effect on her image/reputation, especially because of how established the name already was for her and MARINA in comparison is way less unique and memorable

 

i think the history that surrounds and the diamonds also has something to do with it. when i think of MARINA, despite it being like 7 years since she changed it, theres not as much history or moments that stand out in relation to the name. like, marina and the diamonds is so reminiscent of her roots and beginnings as an indie artist on myspace. creating iconic moments like the ones ive and many others have personally tied to and the diamonds is harder to replicate with just marina

 

i think she changed her name cause she was going through depression and a very abusive relationship and she thought that maybe if she changed everything about herself (her sound changed, her city changed, her name changed, her lyrics changed, pretty much everything) then it would be better, but obviously that wasn't the case 

55 minutes ago, lvrdve said:

 

 

As for the claim that she’s being disingenuous for criticizing capitalism.... everyone participates in capitalism by working, buying, and selling. Just because we live and act within a system that currently has no practical alternative doesn’t mean we can’t critique its flaws, and I don't really see an issue with her using her platform to shed light on that.

 

 

IMO her criticism just sucks! like it's so bad. plenty of artists have criticised capitalism in a way that is meaningful, smart and not corny. marina seems to be unable to do so 

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2 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

And that's why she's releasing a funny album with no politics mentioned whatsoever! Cheers X

And that's why people will criticize the lyrics! because they won't be deep and meaningful! If she's serious, then she's cringe, and if she's funny, then she's uninspired and dumb!

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19 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

And that's why she's releasing a funny album with no politics mentioned whatsoever! Cheers X

im highkey here for it. cupid is AMAZING and butterfly has grown on me a little.


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