Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 24th, 2023

[Vertimus 9,575]

6 minutes ago, viagra said:

 

This is irrelevant to Lana´s music though. She never crossed the line in her lyrics to be considered hate speaker. All the controversy about her words is blown-out stupidity.

Yup. 

[Sportscruiser 11,894]

Just now, viagra said:

 

How is her certain lyric relevant to what you typed out?

 

Because we’ve been examining her previous “polemic” stances or lyrics and while most of us agree she has never deserved the hate and cancelation attempts that came her way, an user also said they advocate for absolute speech and I commented on that.

 

But “Harry Nilsson has a song, his voice breaks at 3:05” I guess.

[tulsa 2,812]

some of yall be writing full on academic essays on a music forum ..... go touch some grass 

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7 minutes ago, Sportscruiser said:

 

I was being polite and diplomatic. I agree with people having to see between the lines instead of jumping into modern-day lynches that serve no purpose other than incessant virtue signaling - however delving into the “everyone is entitled to feel, think and say whatever they want because who are we to police that?” rhetoric is dangerous because it’s exactly what the far right extremists use as ammo. There are ideals and values that should be reprimanded and questioned when they put the safety and the existence of large groups of people at risk. I will not not intervene if/when that happens.

I agree but there's a difference between questioning and arguing against a viewpoint vs. monolithic media culture silencing or shouting down someone for a perceived slight. If someone says something is wrong, they should be able to explain why, persuasively. Excluding contrary view points or opinions is what someone does when their own argument is weak

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Just now, tulsa said:

some of yall be writing full on academic essays on a music forum ..... go touch some grass 

 

what if we wanna do both?

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im a princess, im divisive  

[viagra 1,642]

1 minute ago, Sportscruiser said:

 

Because we’ve been examining her previous “polemic” stances or lyrics and while most of us agree she has never deserved the hate and cancelation attempts that came her way, an user also said they advocate for absolute speech and I commented on that.

 

But “Harry Nilsson has a song, his voice breaks at 3:05” I guess.

 

Thats something non-americans will never understand, the freedom of speech is the most protected right and is way more used in absolute sense in the US.

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2 minutes ago, baddisease said:

 

what if we wanna do both?

impossible

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1 minute ago, baked said:

im a princess, im divisive  

ASK ME WHY, WHY I’M LIKE THIS  

[gothphetamine 1,122]

1 hour ago, DCooper said:

I personally feel from the three songs I've heard that this is her darkest work yet. It's about finally unpacking the things she wasn't ready to face and really putting herself through the emotional wringer. There's a weight to it that I don't think she's explored before. That being said, I think she will balance a lot of emotions throughout the record and the ultimate takeaway will be one of hope, strength, love for yourself and others.

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I heavily agree especially with the inclusion of things she’s never explicitly referred to before: mainly her family issues and SA

 

[GeminiLanaFan 49,136]

16 minutes ago, PARADIXO said:

 

This. I remember discussing the album w a friend and describing it as that... just letting things flow because you just can't do nothing about it. It is both empowering and depressing because the only thing you can control are your own actions. The world on Norman is on fire and destroyed but she has her casual, go for a Starbucks coffee Los Angeles mind to protect her sanity. It's like trying to live as a normal woman in the middle of a not normal at all space ("Hollyweird").

 

Looking back it really is such a different Lana record.

She once said in an interview that she likes to write about where she wants to be (or, at least, used to before Norman). With LFL, with its original concept, was to process darkness to head into this « im at peace » with my exes, my career and I found new love (Yosemite and BAR). But we know a lot happened and when she posted the handwritten tracklist, there was was this « Lost for Life? » subtitle that she wrote that embodied the album in the end.  Norman continued exploring those I think while letting go / accepting how imperfect everything is.  And now, Ocean Blvd seems to go very deep into the explorations and the hurts that she probably thought she’d never have again and yet happened in her life. 

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5 minutes ago, gothphetamine said:

Damn this is so hard. Does anyone else’s opinion literally change day by day 

 

1. Ocean boulevard

2. Nfr

3. UV

4. BTD & COTCC

(BTD and COTCC are interchangeable tbh depending on the mood I’m in. If I’m nostalgic and contemplative then BTD but if I just wanna chill then COTCC)

I’m so meh about the last three lol. 
5. LFL

6. honeymoon

7. BB

01. Honeymoon

02. Ultraviolence

03. Born to die

04. Chemtrails

05. Blue banisters

06. Norman fucking rockwell

07. Ocean blvd

08. Lust for life

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This will surely be moved to the the Random discussion thread (as it should), but I find it interesting how some people equate adding nuance to discussions (and/or letting so called dissident opinions shine through) to being a slippery slope, as if it's letting intolerant/bigoted ideas sprout freely... This is literally the paradox of tolerance. But that's not the time and place for such discussions. 

 

Lana's lyrics will do just fine, you'll hear from some Twitter users having issues with it as per usual, but she will be just fine.

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I'm so thankful for Sweet, it's just the right lighthearted track between the darker Tunnel and A&W songs

 

[Vertimus 9,575]

19 minutes ago, your dealer said:

 

Everything is fine and there are no hard feelings. We are all very passionate and connected to Lana which can lead to some intense discussions. 

Thank you. I have great feeling for so many of you here, and appreciate your intelligence and varying opinions and all your other gifts.

 

We all see things from different points of the spectrum, and that's what leads to healthy and vigorous understanding of one another and of Lana's music. As I've said, the best example of this for me was when someone mentioned how they thought 'Old Money' was song by a relatively youthful person, and that forced me to read and reread the lyrics and see how that conclusion was possible, and I realized it was, that 'the kids were young and pretty' might have been young women and men, not children, the children of the narrator, as I had assumed. I had always assumed the narrator was a mature women in her 50s or greater, and I still think that, but I see now see how it is possible to interpret it another way completely. 

 

And now 'A&W' opens up another pandora's box of multiple ways of interpreting the lyrics and their meaning. And it seems "Fingertips' does as well.  

 

My best to you. 

[Sportscruiser 11,894]

I’ll shut up about this fascinating topic (which I’m sure would also be of Lana’s interest, judging by her lyricism and opinions made public) because it’s apparently irrelevant to some people when the discourse diverges from some variation of “Harry Nilsson has a song (…)”, “she’s so mother!” or vinyl color palettes. 

 

Anyways fuck Patty, her voice breaks at 2:05, Jimmy Jimmy cocoa puff, legend slay boots the house down  or some shit like that. Carry on.

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1 minute ago, Sportscruiser said:

I’ll shut up about this fascinating topic (which I’m sure would also be of Lana’s interest, judging by her lyricism and opinions made public) because it’s apparently irrelevant to some people when the discourse diverges from some variation of “Harry Nilsson has a song (…)”, “she’s so mother!” or vinyl color palettes. 

 

Anyways fuck Patty, her voice breaks at 3:05, Jimmy Jimmy cocoa puff, legend slay boots the house down  or some shit like that. Carry on.

 

keep going!

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3 minutes ago, Sportscruiser said:

I’ll shut up about this fascinating topic (which I’m sure would also be of Lana’s interest, judging by her lyricism and opinions made public) because it’s apparently irrelevant to some people when the discourse diverges from some variation of “Harry Nilsson has a song (…)”, “she’s so mother!” or vinyl color palettes. 

 

Anyways fuck Patty, her voice breaks at 3:05, Jimmy Jimmy cocoa puff, legend slay boots the house down  or some shit like that. Carry on.

Oh you’re so real for this. We have “fun” here all the time - so I think we should partake in these spontaneous, deeper social conversations inspired by the music more often! 

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The change starts with education not with prohibiting someone to say something.

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28 minutes ago, LetTheLightln said:

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and "if you wanna go where nobody goes, that's where you'll find me" in sweet reminds me so so much of over the rainbow  the whole song has that judy, 40/50s torch song vibe somehow

 

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OMG!! THAT'S LITERALLY THE SOUND THAT I WAS WANTING HER TO GO TO FOR SO LOONG! does it have like those old timey violins from like a walt disney movie score?