americangothic 1,690 Posted July 24, 2021 Yeah, 'Chemtrails' is not a bad record, it's just a tamed aftermath of 'NFR!'. It's hard to repeat or follow-up a record like 'Norman'. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evergreen 8,365 Posted July 24, 2021 22 minutes ago, FallingCherry said: Lorde said that they made Stoned 6 months after the Melodrama world tour ended (it ended in November of 2018, so it leads us to May 2019) and Lana posted a pic of her WAH necklace on July 31 2019, which we can assume wasn’t too long ago after she wrote the track (always thought it was August but apparently it was July, my bad) Written and fully produced & mastered are two different things. Lorde could write it in May 2019 and give it to Jack later so he can sample three Lana's songs in one Lorde song. Not the other way around. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted July 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, LanaTheRay said: Why is everyone ultimately placing the blame on Jack, it’s Lorde’s song at the end of the day. None of Jack’s other songs in the past sound like songs he’s done with other artists. No song on Reputation that he did with Taylor sound like any NFR songs or any of his work with St. Vincent. Stoned sounds like Wild at heart cause it shares the exact same chord progression, maybe it’s Lorde’s that’s the uninspired one, not Jack yes, i agree, obviously if lorde knew that her song was basically recycling lana's song it would also be her fault, i just didn't wanna assume because jack's the one who produced it, and you know how stans can be... i'm not saying lorde is 100% innocent, i guess we don't really know for sure, either way, i think it's suspicious 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,020 Posted July 24, 2021 I know it’s off topic but re: the Lorde talk- She did say that she made this album to “amuse [her] peers” and that she wanted certain musicians to listen to it, text her, and say “I see what you did there”. So, I wonder if the similarities between her new stuff and Lana’s signature sound/lyricism is deliberate... 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said: I know it’s off topic but re: the Lorde talk- She did say that she made this album to “amuse [her] peers” and that she wanted certain musicians to listen to it, text her, and say “I see what you did there”. So, I wonder if the similarities between her new stuff and Lana’s signature sound/lyricism is deliberate... i feel like that's a bad idea, considering lorde & lana's history unless i'm out of the loop and they're friends or something also just the idea of "borrowing" or being heavily inspired by somebody else's work and making it some sort of easter egg is strange, in my opinion 17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,020 Posted July 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i feel like that's a bad idea, considering lorde & lana's history, unless i'm out of the loop and they're friends or something also just the idea of "borrowing" or being heavily inspired by somebody else's work and making it some sort of easter egg... I agree, and I don’t think Lana is necessarily a fan of people making similar music to her *especially* if they previously voiced their distaste for her music and didn’t bother to rectify such comments Although I’m not an avid listener or a fan, I think Lorde is a great musician, but I also think she should make music that sounds like...well, Lorde! I feel like after NFR, a lot of people wanted to create their own versions of that record and maybe I’m biased because it’s Lana, but nothing beats the original. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COCC 29,554 Posted July 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: unless i'm out of the loop and they're friends or something QFTC says hi 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted July 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, COCC said: QFTC says hi qftc 2.0 is coming i fear now that taylor swift, st. vincent, clairo, the chicks, and lorde have produced hit albums with jack antonoff, can i please go back to singing about coffee pots, smoking cigarettes, loving lots like polka dots, and being wild at heart, without being copied or saying that i'm glamourizing jack antonoff? 20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 87,785 Posted July 24, 2021 like what if lorde was actually flirting with lana thru her music or something. that's a new perspective. she's like, no lana, I'M the prettier jesus. or, ey lets go get stoned getting pedi's girl. maybe it was jacks plan all along 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COCC 29,554 Posted July 24, 2021 22 minutes ago, Diamantes WILD said: like what if lorde was actually flirting with lana thru her music or something. that's a new perspective. she's like, no lana, I'M the prettier jesus. or, ey lets go get stoned getting pedi's girl. maybe it was jacks plan all along 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhubysyrup 4,501 Posted July 24, 2021 58 minutes ago, LanaTheRay said: None of Jack’s other songs in the past sound like songs he’s done with other artists. haha https://www.tiktok.com/@drewsdiary/video/6950144302878035206?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowpSpscJlyCSZpPL8iLQd26A36pLG6W%2BHeKgfxxXdvDrRReYRi4rWH0%2FWDIDMrpAWQGgA%3D&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAcJWQZYx8QVrypFNE9B9k56atf4-rTaldyS2uMOUB0FZj8jCUGfBXd2duVx8FtZC6&share_item_id=6950144302878035206&share_link_id=605436D3-2416-4238-A2E9-6FE59119B4E4&source=h5_m×tamp=1618256027&tt_from=copy&u_code=dfg6hihc6i29ag&user_id=6896717675743413253&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=copy&_r=1 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 87,785 Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, COCC said: 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macintosh Manhattan 6,511 Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, rhubysyrup said: haha https://www.tiktok.com/@drewsdiary/video/6950144302878035206?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowpSpscJlyCSZpPL8iLQd26A36pLG6W%2BHeKgfxxXdvDrRReYRi4rWH0%2FWDIDMrpAWQGgA%3D&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAcJWQZYx8QVrypFNE9B9k56atf4-rTaldyS2uMOUB0FZj8jCUGfBXd2duVx8FtZC6&share_item_id=6950144302878035206&share_link_id=605436D3-2416-4238-A2E9-6FE59119B4E4&source=h5_m×tamp=1618256027&tt_from=copy&u_code=dfg6hihc6i29ag&user_id=6896717675743413253&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=copy&_r=1 ROTFL , truly the most uninspired producer of recent times He's a great guy that's clear to see BC his peers including Lana etc wouldn't work with him otherwise but...yeah this ain't it chief I've seen more and more people starting to see through the veneer of his work and most of it is fair criticism. Links in spoiler. Spoiler https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/9kxpn3/jack-antonoff-makes-a-lot-of-music-and-none-of-it-is-good 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evergreen 8,365 Posted July 24, 2021 Imagine original versions of NFR!/COTCC tracks... So glad Lana left him (for now). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honeyyoung 17,096 Posted July 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Writer In The Dark said: Imagine original versions of NFR!/COTCC tracks... So glad Lana left him (for now). wait but this is so perfect with the violins and everything??? why can't jack do something like this for lana 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CinnamonGay 10,527 Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Writer In The Dark said: Imagine original versions of NFR!/COTCC tracks... So glad Lana left him (for now). Are u saying it's great? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, CinnamonGay said: Are u saying it's great? i think they mean "imagine nfr/cotcc tracks before jack produced them" meaning the original versions before jack's final versions 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Flamingo 17,145 Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Writer In The Dark said: Imagine original versions of NFR!/COTCC tracks... So glad Lana left him (for now). OK but this sounds Lana asffffff 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lustforlife 19,008 Posted July 25, 2021 The fact that nfr is so good that is Jack is trying to do it again with 3 artists, including lana 23 Quote Lust For Dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COCC 29,554 Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, lustforlife said: The fact that nfr is so good that is Jack is trying to do it again with 3 artists, including lana I guess you could call NFR… textbook 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites