Random Lana Discussion Thread

[Deleted Member 23,729]

I guess I don’t have a problem with people preferring old Lana and wanting her to experiment again with some of her past sounds, because I also prefer BTD-HM sonically for sure too, it was an era. I would love for her to do something like that again, but I don’t think it’s fair to expect that from her at this point and to be disappointed when that doesn’t happen. she’s not a pop star to the degree that Kylie Minogue, Madonna, and Beyoncé are, and she never has been. nothing she’s done for the last 4 years has even relatively insinuated that she is going to go back to that sound. i think at this point it’s most respectful to listen to your favorite albums, think “wow it would be really nice for her to do something like this again”, and then acknowledge and appreciate that this woman has never been one thing and is always evolving, and has also found collaborators that make her feel safe, unguarded, and comfortable

[West Coast 45,850]

I think as Lana stans we are spoiled brats. We get to bicker about what album we like best in her relatively short career. We can chose, debate, fight between 7 released albums plus one more on the way, an EP, two unreleased records and 200+ unreleased songs; meanwhile other stans sometimes wait 5+ years in between album cycles/eras. 

[Deleted Member 23,729]

I also want to add that Ultraviolence is my favorite album, and I would love an Ultraviolence 2.0 with the lyric content of recent albums, but it’s worth noting that her and Dan weren’t necessarily the best mix. And I think the production on UV is something only Dan can really do, which is why there’s nothing else like it in Lana’s discog. Dan mentioned how much of a pain it was dealing with Interscope, and Lana has mentioned how they used to fight in the studio, I can see why both of them wouldn’t want to make another album together again

[mssainttropez 14,787]

there’s nothing wrong with preferring lana’s older eras over her newer ones. there’s nothing wrong with wanting her to embody those same eras again. what’s wrong is expecting her to create newer music similar to her older music and not appreciating her newer music. i personally love how personal her newer music is. in blue banisters she mentions chuck, nikki, etc. in ocean blvd she mentions harry nilsson, which is a singer she loves and is inspired by. again, liking her older music over her newer music is normal, but you need to respect her newer music as well. 

[Future Jazz 9,228]

9 minutes ago, the ocean said:

i've seen a lot of very misogynistic and ageist stuff thrown at kylie, madonna & beyoncé recently just for the record

literally name a woman over 40 and try to prove that people** are not writing them off simply because of their age (and because they're a woman; not even gonna go into beyoncé being a black woman over 40 oh my god shock and horror) and btw if lana released ocean blvd at 78 would that change whether it was good or not?

this is not directed at you specially but i think we should keep in mind how incredibly privileged these people are. No matter what category they fall under, they’ll still have better material conditions, more opportunities and more privilege than 99% of white cisgender men on this planet, because of their wealth. it can hardly be said that Beyoncé, one of the most influential women in the world, is ever really written off. and the same goes for Taylor and, to a lesser extent, Lana: I can’t help thinking it’s a bit tone-deaf to spend 6 years complaining about some Kanye West drama (or, in Lana’s case and to a lesser extent, about being criticized by the media, which is not even the big picture anymore) and making billions out of it when you could use your platform to convey some sort of message. I’m not saying these problems aren’t worth addressing in their music at all, I’m saying it sounds slightly insensitive to me how much they talk about them while never ever addressing other problems or how unbelievably privileged they are. The problems they face are real, be it misogyny, racism, ageism, and they can exemplify things regular people are also confronted with - but we shouldn’t be tricked into forgetting that their economic position really lessens the impact these problems have on their lives, while these people actually fuel the problems regular people face, by flying a privet jet 24/7, or having a brand with clothes made by exploited workers in Asia, for instance.

[the ocean 67,601]

9 minutes ago, Future Jazz said:

this is not directed at you specially but i think we should keep in mind how incredibly privileged these people are. No matter what category they fall under, they’ll still have better material conditions, more opportunities and more privilege than 99% of white cisgender men on this planet, because of their wealth. it can hardly be said that Beyoncé, one of the most influential women in the world, is ever really written off. and the same goes for Taylor and, to a lesser extent, Lana: I can’t help thinking it’s a bit tone-deaf to spend 6 years complaining about some Kanye West drama (or, in Lana’s case and to a lesser extent, about being criticized by the media, which is not even the big picture anymore) and making billions out of it when you could use your platform to convey some sort of message. I’m not saying these problems aren’t worth addressing in their music at all, I’m saying it sounds slightly insensitive to me how much they talk about them while never ever addressing other problems or how unbelievably privileged they are. The problems they face are real, be it misogyny, racism, ageism, and they can exemplify things regular people are also confronted with - but we shouldn’t be tricked into forgetting that their economic position really lessens the impact these problems have on their lives, while these people actually fuel the problems regular people face, by flying a privet jet 24/7, or having a brand with clothes made by exploited workers in Asia, for instance.

it took me a second to get this ngl

[HeyBlueBaby 3,354]

More complaining about wanting certain eras back....just go listen to one of hundreds leaked songs from those eras then. We have access to so many material, years worth...appreciate where Lana is now or tune out already. She's not making another BTD or UV. Give it up

[Eugene 26,670]

the fact that for me UV is one of her worst albums. 

[Rust Dress 40,236]

Just now, salvatorelovesyou said:

the fact that for me UV is one of her worst albums. 

[Eugene 26,670]

3 minutes ago, cinnamongirI said:

[Veinsineon 77,217]

6 minutes ago, salvatorelovesyou said:

the fact that for me UV is one of her worst albums. 

 

[Eugene 26,670]

2 minutes ago, Veinsineon said:

 

 

Been getting high on my own in my Los Angeles home 

[PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783]

[Deleted Member 23,729]

1 minute ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said:

looking forward to @Acid’s next dupe i love them i can look past the scat

[Eugene 26,670]

when LDR10 is an experimental hyperpop album 

[Dark Angel 202,785]

all of this talk about ultraviolence, norman fucking rockwell, honeymoon, jack antonoff, pianos, etc. but we still haven't faced the truth which is that ldrakalg is one of the best albums of all time

[lanasbottom 23,694]

22 minutes ago, salvatorelovesyou said:

the fact that for me UV is one of her worst albums. 

aaand here come the bad takes 

[Fingertips 72,051]

1 minute ago, Surf Noir said:

all of this talk about ultraviolence, norman fucking rockwell, honeymoon, jack antonoff, pianos, etc. but we still haven't faced the truth which is that ldrakalg is one of the best albums of all time

I think the world, and this forum, would be better off if LDRAKALG was on streaming services 

[Deleted Member 23,729]

2 minutes ago, Surf Noir said:

all of this talk about ultraviolence, norman fucking rockwell, honeymoon, jack antonoff, pianos, etc. but we still haven't faced the truth which is that ldrakalg is one of the best albums of all time

it’s literally her third best album but the people aren’t ready for that discussion yet

[ShadesOfViolence 6,678]

40 minutes ago, lilac heaven said:

I guess I don’t have a problem with people preferring old Lana and wanting her to experiment again with some of her past sounds

I, myself, don't even want her to experiment again with some of her past sounds. I just want to her to experiment again in a unique style that sonically we'd never heard before. Unlike the NFR COCC BB cycle. I hope Ocean Blvd won't be in that same old last 3 year soundscape. But the title track tells the opposite unfortunately.