Random Lana Discussion Thread

[plastiscguy 63,438]

2 minutes ago, honeymoonwhore said:

 

idc, your remix of Chemtrails is amazing. I get goosebumps every time I listen to it, I barely listen to the original version now 

 

omg thx sjsnsbs 

[cranekiss 9,728]

@plastiscguy your remix of chemtrails makes it one of her best songs i am being deadass, do you have like download links to all/most of your edits

[For K 9,171]

Just now, honeymoonwhore said:

 

 

 

I've only heard the first minute so far and my body just raised three feet off of my bed 

[the ocean 67,601]

3 minutes ago, honeymoonwhore said:

 

 

oh wow

[terrenceszyou 1,328]

4 minutes ago, plastiscguy said:

 

omg thx sjsnsbs 

 

I already said this once, but the live version you did for Fine China is amazing. It's just a few elements and it's not over the top, but it's improved the song so much. The guitars in the chorus are great. Thanks! 

[Venice Peach 54,293]

Beautiful was whatever but Arcadia and specially IYLDWM were amazing. I'm a proud Drew stan  

 

He also arranges for FJM and they nail it every time. I think the problem with Beautiful is that Drew works better when doing full orchestras (or at least some strings) so a lone piano didn't let him shine (even though the tinkling was pretty).

[Venice Peach 54,293]

I think people hate Drew cause they associate him with Beautiful but the Picasso line came from Lana and the problems in sound came from the audio engineers. All he did was play the piano he didn't mix it 

[littleredpartydress 49,872]

Tbh let’s be fair to Mr Drew the biggest problem with Beautiful is the lyrics and honestly her delivery that’s the one song in her discography where I actually find myself actively annoyed at the vocals 

 

the “what is someone had AAAAAAAsked Picasso not to be SAAAAAAAAd” part is just awful  I think he will do better on a better written song 

 

also it sounded like it was mixed on a high school calculator 

[anwdelrey 9,269]

The Jack hate is the result of fans wanting to blame someone for Lana’s shift toward more lyrically ambitious and less reverb heavy/dream-pop music.

 

But the truth is Jack is a great producer, especially with Lana. His production can become redundant at times but not so much with Lana.

 

Drew on the other hand… something stinks! No but seriously I think their collaboration was the result of Jack having a crazy schedule and Lana needing to find someone quickly. I didn’t like his production on BB and whoever does the mixing for their tracks…

5 minutes ago, littleredpartydress said:

Tbh let’s be fair to Mr Drew the biggest problem with Beautiful is the lyrics and honestly her delivery that’s the one song in her discography where I actually find myself actively annoyed at the vocals 

 

the “what is someone had AAAAAAAsked Picasso not to be SAAAAAAAAd” part is just awful  I think he will do better on a better written song 

 

also it sounded like it was mixed on a high school calculator 

No the WORST PART is the delivery of the Beautiful lines… she was at her lowest.

[Deleted Member 23,728]

jack discourse again so i’m just gonna say it again as well, i don’t understand any of the hate! not even on the mixing, which i’ve seen people criticize too. there’s not a single lana+jack song besides one that i listen to the instrumental of and think “oh this is bad”. other than that awful out of place beat that was added to How to Disappear, the only complaints with some of the songs he’s worked on actually stem from lana herself, like the melodies (which she writes) are boring or drag on. but i don’t have a single complaint about any of his production or mixing choices besides HTD

[Fingertips 72,043]

Yeah, whoever mixed Drew's tracks on Blue Banisters needs to be fired. I can barely hear Arcadia on any system that isn't my car listening to the CD or headphones  Aux? I have to turn that shit all the way up to even hear anything. Never happened with any Lana song before Blue Banisters

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2 minutes ago, lilac heaven said:

jack discourse again so i’m just gonna say it again as well, i don’t understand any of the hate! not even on the mixing, which i’ve seen people criticize too. there’s not a single lana+jack song besides one that i listen to the instrumental to and think “oh this is bad”. besides that awful out of place beat that was added to How to Disappear, the only complaints with some of the songs he’s worked on actually stem from lana herself, like the melodies (which she writes) are boring or drag on. but i don’t have a single complaint about any of his production or mixing choices besides HTD

I think seriously that you can’t listen to California and think the issue is the melody. It’s a gorgeous melody, gorgeous instruments, but the mixing is off. It feels like there’s a dampener on it that just stops it building. I can’t explain it but California in my eyes should’ve been her best song and unfortunately the production on it just ruins it. 

[anwdelrey 9,269]

This alone shuts up any Jack hater I rest my case forever:

 

 

[plastiscguy 63,438]

3 minutes ago, Fingertips said:

Yeah, whoever mixed Drew's tracks on Blue Banisters needs to be fired. I can barely hear Arcadia on any system that isn't my car listening to the CD or headphones  Aux? I have to turn that shit all the way up to even hear anything. Never happened with any Lana song before Blue Banisters

Oh, it's the complete opposite for me. Her vocals are so loud, it's such an ear-rape situation  

Overall, the mixing (and production) on Blue Banisters as a whole is a mess, except for a few tracks. But again, it adds to the "raw" essence, so it might be on purpose and just not my cup of tea

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Just now, VioletBunny said:

I think seriously that you can’t listen to California and think the issue is the melody. It’s a gorgeous melody, gorgeous instruments, but the mixing is off. It feels like there’s a dampener on it that just stops it building. I can’t explain it but California in my eyes should’ve been her best song and unfortunately the production on it just ruins it. 

while i like Zach Dawes’ work, i think Zach had a lot more of a role in that song than people think. Hell, Zach is the first credited producer, Jack is credited second 😭 

[IanadeIrey 62,021]

I’d also argue that it’s possible they purposely quietened every instrument on Blue Banisters, so as to emphasize Lana’s voice. She did say it was a record for the critics, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she really wanted to make sure that the delivery of her words wouldn’t be detracted from by the production — even if the result wasn’t a favourite among select fans. 

[Fingertips 72,043]

1 minute ago, plastiscguy said:

Oh, it's the complete opposite for me. Her vocals are so loud, it's such an ear-rape situation  

Overall, the mixing (and production) on Blue Banisters as a whole is a mess, except for a few tracks. But again, it adds to the "raw" essence, so it might be on purpose and just not my cup of tea

I can hear the vocals in the chorus loud and clear, but I seriously hear no production via aux. It sounds like an acapella song...

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Just now, lilac heaven said:

while i like Zach Dawes’ work, i think Zach had a lot more of a role in that song than people think. Hell, Zach is the first credited producer, Jack is credited second 😭 

Period.. both devils in my eyes. 
 

but my main enemy is, and always will be, laura sisk 

[terrenceszyou 1,328]

9 minutes ago, Yeahyeahyeah said:

 

No the WORST PART is the delivery of the Beautiful lines… she was at her lowest.

 

13 minutes ago, littleredpartydress said:

the “what is someone had AAAAAAAsked Picasso not to be SAAAAAAAAd” part is just awful  I think he will do better on a better written song 

 

also it sounded like it was mixed on a high school calculator 

 

Literally hurts in the ear. I tried really hard to like it, but I didn't. It seems so uninspired. Then there's Violet for Roses, which, despite being a bit more polished, isn't the album's strong point either.

[ChaoticLipster 24,618]

1 minute ago, Yeahyeahyeah said:

This alone shuts up any Jack hater I rest my case forever:

 

 

I actually think this lacks instrumentation, too much piano, needs some strings and other instruments to give it more power. It’s beautiful but I think it could have been even better.