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[terrenceszyou 1,327]

12 minutes ago, Yeahyeahyeah said:

This alone shuts up any Jack hater I rest my case forever:

 

 

 

I agree. I love how much the instrumental details are noticeable even listening to the voiced version. White Dress, Tulsa and Dark But Just a Game have incredible productions. Rich productions are not always those with excess instruments. He did well, yes! Chemtrails just should have more tracks and more high points like the beginning of the album.

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Just now, the ocean said:

it sounds very flat almost like you smashed it with a frying pan

there's just no atmosphere to hear at all, it sounds super super flat

THIS. it sounds like really dull, it’s all technically correct and good but it’s just so cramped I guess? it’s like everything’s been equalised and there’s no depth to it. 

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3 minutes ago, the ocean said:

it sounds very flat almost like you smashed it with a frying pan

there's just no atmosphere to hear at all, it sounds super super flat

perhaps too much compression is what’s bothering you? depending on how jack and laura work, this actually might be a mastering problem; iirc Chris Gehringer has mastered every Jack song besides California (which was mastered by Adam Ayan who did LFL and BB), and he hasn’t mastered anything Jack hasn’t touched except Yosemite. maybe we should blame him

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6 minutes ago, terrenceszyou said:

It's not an ironic post. I would really like to hear the opinion of those who admire BB. It's still not an album I've been able to digest because of the obvious issues, so I'd like to hear your thoughts. Perhaps there are positive aspects that I failed to observe.

I actually love BB, the unreleased she added to it are some of my fav unreleased so that probably contributes. WFWF is a career highlight. It has its flaws and some of its lows are low I do think overall it’s gorgeous. 

[Fingertips 72,034]

Omg yeah I hate NFR's california for the same reasons you mentioned. It sounds like it has the bones of a really great track, but the life has been sucked out of it. My least fave on NFR hands down.

[the ocean 67,597]

2 minutes ago, VioletBunny said:

THIS. it sounds like really dull, it’s all technically correct and good but it’s just so cramped I guess? it’s like everything’s been equalised and there’s no depth to it. 

1 minute ago, lilac heaven said:

perhaps too much compression is what’s bothering you? depending on how jack and laura work, this actually might be a mastering problem; iirc Chris Gehringer has mastered every Jack song besides California, and he hasn’t mastered anything Jack hasn’t touched except Yosemite. maybe we should blame him

yeah and also i should say that i specifically have a problem with NFR in terms of the "flatness" - COCC was definitely a major improvement

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I will not allow hatred of California when there is Happiness is a butterfly. 

[terrenceszyou 1,327]

5 minutes ago, Fingertips said:

 

Plenty of more examples, but it's a very comforting record for me, I love the lyricism on most of the tracks, and it's easy to wind down and let its melodies carry you away.

 

Thanks! I also think it has amazing songwriting, and the three singles were so good, it filled me with anticipation. The excess of unreleaseds present irritates me and makes me wonder what the album would be like if they didn't take up so much space. At the same time, I would like to understand the purpose of the album in general, and they get in my way. Sorry if this got confusing.

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1 minute ago, salvatorelovesyou said:

I will not allow hatred of California when there is Happiness is a butterfly. 

california is a GROWER if u dont get it then im really really sorry

1 minute ago, the ocean said:

whoever normally fucks up the mixing/mastering did not do it with that song

well #that person is right above this line 

[Eugene 26,662]

1 minute ago, kaliuchis said:

california is a GROWER if u dont get it then im really really sorry

[the ocean 67,597]

2 minutes ago, kaliuchis said:

well #that person is right above this line 

i'm just having a hard time believing that jack is THAT hit and miss

[Fingertips 72,034]

4 minutes ago, salvatorelovesyou said:

I will not allow hatred of California when there is Happiness is a butterfly. 

I don't like Happiness is a Butterfly for its flat ass piano, but it's much more of a pleasant listening experience than California

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on the topic of California, i really didn’t appreciate that song until it came on when i was driving on an empty freeway… that’s the only way it really hits for me, i can’t listen to it just like sitting in my room, i have to be driving fast and for some reason it’s a completely different experience that i can’t replicate. only correct way to listen to it

[terrenceszyou 1,327]

A friend once told me that he doesn't like NFR because all the tracks sound like there's water in the sound amps.  That way when water gets into your headphones. It's funny and it really looks like it. 

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Just now, NikoGo said:

 

everyone, get to bed!

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2 minutes ago, NikoGo said:

 

 

Ate that 

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5 minutes ago, lilac heaven said:

on the topic of California, i really didn’t appreciate that song until it came on when i was driving on an empty freeway… that’s the only way it really hits for me, i can’t listen to it just like sitting in my room, i have to be driving fast and for some reason it’s a completely different experience that i can’t replicate. only correct way to listen to it

I know you’re probably just talking about personal experience rather than objective problems with the song but this is a point. Lana’s Cinnamon Girl teases were done in her car, and when it was released everyone was like “where’s the bass gone?” because it doesn’t sound like that via phones or AirPods or even decent headsets. 
 

I think Jack is a perfectionist and he loves all these little things he adds to songs, but once you leave the studio, those little things disappear and you end up with an overly compressed track. I remember a song (from COCC I think) that had like a dozen instruments on its credits but you literally can’t hear more than a handful of them. I’m sure in the studio you could hear them all clearly, but outside of it? Nah. 
 

Tunnels is already shaping up to be an improvement though!

[Sportscruiser 11,894]

Honeymoon remains not only the best but also the MOST mixed and mastered album of her entire career. 7 and a half years later and I still discover a little flute here and there or a hidden sax behind so many layers but still very much palpable. I really love Jack as a producer for Lana and Clairo specifically but Honeymoon is on a totally different level for me. It sounds expensive.

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Just now, Sportscruiser said:

Honeymoon remains not only the best but also the MOST mixed and mastered album of her entire career. 7 and a half years later and I still discover a little flute here and there or a hidden sax behind so many layers but still very much palpable. I really love Jack as a producer for Lana and Clairo specifically but Honeymoon is on a totally different level for me. It sounds expensive.

Honeymoon is probably the only instrumental album that I’ll listen to on the regular tbh.