DemonMic2003 8,367 Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, SalvaWHORE said: I literally never liked NRO and thought in 2019 she wouldnt release anything worse than this.... and now we have Woman's World NRO sounds even better than this. Tasteless 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 34,032 Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, DemonMic2003 said: Tasteless I don't think that NRO is shit but the production is so jarring and she sings so loudly. The song just gave me an headache every time I heard it on radio in 2019, like the way how Dance Monkey gave me an headache (but NRO is better) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonMic2003 8,367 Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Embach said: I don't think that NRO is shit but the production is so jarring and she sings so loudly. The song just gave me an headache every time I heard it on radio in 2019, like the way how Dance Monkey gave me an headache (but NRO is better) Fair, the production could be much better 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 34,032 Posted July 12 Since we're in the Katy Perry thread, Im interested in hearing your thoughts on this: Is "You're So Gay" song in your opinion homophobic or not? I personally think it's not, I think the song is about how narcissistic her boyfriend was. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonMic2003 8,367 Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, Embach said: Since we're in the Katy Perry thread, Im interested in hearing your thoughts on this: Is "You're So Gay" song in your opinion homophobic or not? I personally think it's not, I think the song is about how narcissistic her boyfriend was. I mean ive never really listened to the song fully so idk. But i can understand how people might see it as so with a title like that 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evergreen 8,137 Posted July 12 Pitchfork: Katy Perry's "Woman's World" is a monumental catastrophe https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/katy-perry-womans-world 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 74,679 Posted July 12 26 minutes ago, Evergreen said: Pitchfork: Katy Perry's "Woman's World" is a monumental catastrophe https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/katy-perry-womans-world Oh lord… 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 13,522 Posted July 12 44 minutes ago, Embach said: Since we're in the Katy Perry thread, Im interested in hearing your thoughts on this: Is "You're So Gay" song in your opinion homophobic or not? I personally think it's not, I think the song is about how narcissistic her boyfriend was. Ehhh maybe, but it's one of her best songs 2 Quote ✧ 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕥𝕠𝕞, 𝕗𝕠𝕣𝕖𝕧𝕖𝕣 𝕚𝕟 𝕞𝕪 𝕙𝕖𝕒𝕕 ✧ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 31,253 Posted July 12 37 minutes ago, Evergreen said: Pitchfork: Katy Perry's "Woman's World" is a monumental catastrophe https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/katy-perry-womans-world I don’t like this song or even Katy rn very much but I don’t understand why almost every review lately sounds like it was written by a stan twitter user? I’m so tired of seeing the same “drags” that I saw on Twitter on a review from a major publication…. 5 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultrabanisters 42,607 Posted July 12 wait the lifetime snippet being a hit... anyways a bit too much performance going on in here. as terrible of a decision as it was to work with d* l***, immediately invalidating her status as the 10's pop star is not gonna work... granted it is nothing groundbreaking, but it is a fun pop song. saying she has never made good or interesting music though is factually incorrect as pre-witness was hit after hit after hit. i would LOVE for her to go back to her early OOTB sound as that is when i started listening to her and love that rock infused sound. she has such a good voice for it regarding the reviews, i honestly think (as they do with almost every artist) news sites are piggybacking off the drama for clicks, knowing controversial headlines and content brings viewers and revenue. instead of saying anything meaningful, they use buzzwords like flop and catastrophe, which is just overkill and invalides any persuasive arguments they have about the song. i have seen it alot of twitter today where pop accounts are just tweeting negative things for ad-share revenue. just boriiiinggggggg also don’t blame her for the sexual imagery. embracing post pregnancy body can feel liberating for women so i don’t really see the issue... its a womans world, truly 8 Quote resident sweeter 24/7/17 - 9/7/23 - 10/7/23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gucciovermybody 3,076 Posted July 12 cheap futuristic aesthetic, cheap lyrics, cheap music made to blow on tik tok and working with someone who has a doubtful personality... thought pink friday 2 would be the only album featuring all of this but katy really outdid herself 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Whore 50,273 Posted July 12 i hope she flops and FUCK DR LUKE anyways, back to your regularly scheduled programming 55 minutes ago, Embach said: Since we're in the Katy Perry thread, Im interested in hearing your thoughts on this: Is "You're So Gay" song in your opinion homophobic or not? I personally think it's not, I think the song is about how narcissistic her boyfriend was. I think overall, yes but i think a lot of people don't really care because it's not like she's saying fuck the gays. but her use of calling him gay is problematic because she's calling him weak, feminine, and tries tearing down his masculinity in every line by referring back to the chorus of calling him gay for what, 3.5 minutes? it's not even a bad song either, i like it actually but it's still annoyingly problematic and just plays on stereotypes. if a guy made a song that said "you're so lesbian and you don't even like girls" and then in the verses named off a bunch of things a girl did that society deems "masculine" or stereotypical for lesbians that this woman did/does it'd be a problem and he'd be cancelled. or if someone did that with a racial situation, we'd reject it and cancel the person. it wouldn't be okay either way and i don't think it should just be okay or get a pass because she's katy perry 2 Quote if i fuck this model and she just bleached her asshole and i get bleach on my t-shirt, imma feel like an asshole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swamp Girl 340 Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Evergreen said: She's getting the acclaim she deserves Realized this wasn’t Pitchfork.. WOOPS. They’re still right though 2 Quote I'm inside of my own human body but I don't feel it yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 58,371 Posted July 12 I don’t like the song but didn’t Bitchfork literally go bankrupt? Why won’t they die already. 4 Quote ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ 𓊔 I took the miracle move on drug 𓊔 ⚕️ The effects were temporary ⚕️ ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creyk 11,587 Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Embach said: Since we're in the Katy Perry thread, Im interested in hearing your thoughts on this: Is "You're So Gay" song in your opinion homophobic or not? I personally think it's not, I think the song is about how narcissistic her boyfriend was. It is definitely promoting casual homophobia, yes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 34,032 Posted July 12 49 minutes ago, American Whore said: I think overall, yes but i think a lot of people don't really care because it's not like she's saying fuck the gays. but her use of calling him gay is problematic because she's calling him weak, feminine, and tries tearing down his masculinity in every line by referring back to the chorus of calling him gay for what, 3.5 minutes? it's not even a bad song either, i like it actually but it's still annoyingly problematic and just plays on stereotypes. if a guy made a song that said "you're so lesbian and you don't even like girls" and then in the verses named off a bunch of things a girl did that society deems "masculine" or stereotypical for lesbians that this woman did/does it'd be a problem and he'd be cancelled. or if someone did that with a racial situation, we'd reject it and cancel the person. it wouldn't be okay either way and i don't think it should just be okay or get a pass because she's katy perry Tbh reading this I kinda agree, it really paints a picture how people took stereotypes in the 2000s society. It's problematic but like you said it's not in that way of homophobic like "fuck the gays" or some shit like that. I still like the song, it just sounds so different from the rest of her songs. I need that song's producer back, I loved the beat. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lakeemmahottie 1,257 Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Evergreen said: Pitchfork: Katy Perry's "Woman's World" is a monumental catastrophe https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/katy-perry-womans-world THEY KINDA ATE HER UP IM CRINNEEEE 3 Quote SOPHIE • ARCA • SKY FERREIRA • YEULE • CHARLI XCX • WILL TOLEDO • JAMIE STEWART • CHELSEA WOLFE • YUNG LEAN • ECCO2K • NATURAL SNOW BUILDINGS • EARTHEATER • FIONA APPLE • BJÖRK • ANNA VON HAUSSWOLFF • KRISTIN MICHAEL HAYTER • RICHARD D JAMES • DEADMAU5 • MICHAEL GIRA • LIZ PHAIR • LANA DEL REY • TINASHE • FKA TWIGS • DEATH GRIPS • SNOW STRIPPERS • A. G. COOK • ETHEL CAIN • NICOLE DOLLANGANGER • KATIE JANE GARSIDE • SHYGIRL • BABYMETAL • CARLY RAE JEPSEN • PERFUME • BEYONCÉ • MACHINE GIRL • KILL ALTERS • RINA SAWAYAMA • A$AP ROCKY • FRIENDZONE • JOANNA NEWSOM • JANE REMOVER • UBOA • KATE BUSH • SARAH BONITO • SLAYYYTER • AYESHA EROTICA • CAROLINE POLACHEK • KELELA • DEVONTÉ HYNES • WEYES BLOOD • JULIA HOLTER • COCTEAU TWINS • TORI AMOS • HANNAH DIAMOND • FLORENCE WELCH • GIA MARGRET • SKULLCRUSHER • DEFTONES • KESHA • LORDE • BONNIE MCKEE • COBRAH • GOODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR • YUNG SHERMAN • SEA OLEENA • POPPY • DEAN BLUNT • DEAR NORA • T.A.T.U. • NAMASENDA • POISON GIRLFRIEND • TOVE LO • ZHEANI • ORTIES • BLADEE • AESPA • BANKS • ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER • OTAY:ONII • TEAADORA • IMOGEN HEAP • ROSE MELBERG • Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadesofblue 12,095 Posted July 12 i really wanted katy to have a successful comeback because she was one of my fav pop girlies in the early 2010s . but the way shes been doing all this just doesnt sit right with me for multiple reasons. her comeback single being women's world is so hypocritical in so many reasons & i dont even have to mention the kesha situation. the music video opening up with her sexualizing rosie the riveter and her background dancers who are also skinny dressing skimpy doesn't seem like the best way to empower women by appealing to the male gaze lol. Katy and the women look hot i dont want to come off like im hating them but i just think so many other artists have portrayed shared women experiences much more accurately lately. some of these are a little different topics but example: skinny by billie ellish, and girl so confusing by charli and lorde. katy seems stuck in 2012 tbh, obviously women should be empowered by what they wear, but being a woman is more than just dressing in revealing outfits and chanting feminism. it just feels very dated and surface level, like we've moved past this. she looks amazing and i dont want to hate her but this was not done well. 10 Quote ♡︎ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonMic2003 8,367 Posted July 12 Me to katy perry rn: 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 74,679 Posted July 12 The way I was genuinely rooting for her until this lead single fiasco too Katy I’m sorry you always get 10x the amount of backlash as other pop singers, but you also HAVE to do better. WE KNOW YOU CAN. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites