bluechemtrails 26,513 Posted October 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, cellophane said: Anti-Hero video! So funny, so many memeable moments Sounds in some parts like Lana gave her singing lessons 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportscruiser 11,893 Posted October 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, lanasbottom said: and Lord with an E did it better too let’s be real She might be highly obnoxious but Melodrama wipes the floor with MIDnights (so does 1989) Not to mention Lorde’s abilities as a songwriter. It’s truly staggering that a 16 year old Lorde was able to write a whole album about growing up as a teenager who feels more radical, mature and forward-thinking than 33 year old Taylor Swift reminiscing about past relationships and revenge-fueled fantasies. Which leads me to another point: why exactly is Taylor Swift perceived as one of the greatest songwriters working today? Sure, she’s capable of storytelling greatness and even poetry as proved by Folkmore but a crushing majority of what exists before those albums + Midnights is quite… average songwriting - even redundant at times. The songs structures are very much similar to one another, the metaphors she uses are often compared to Lana’s because a lot of times she does sound like she’s been studying Lana for a long time and also wants to dive into summoning contemplative, evocative Americana symbolism but is that really enough to label someone as one of the greatest songwriters of our time? Even melodically speaking, she’s come to a point where her melodies are starting to blend into one another, with several Midnights tracks resembling others from previous albums, uncannily so. Now I don’t want to sound like a Taylor Swift hater even though it might be too late for that and I truly feel like she was misrepresented and mistreated by the media for years - it was nice to see her blossom into her Folkmore era where it was all about the music and nothing else. However it does feel obligatory to start questioning these labels we throw at people based on their merit at their peak moments/projects when they might not be progressing as one would expect from someone so highly perceived and admired as her for something she’s clearly lacking or showing flaws at. Sometimes I feel like all the hatred and unfair vitriol that was directed at Taylor and the way she overcame that kind of prevents people from rightfully criticizing her (from a place of genuine respect and love for music) or questioning her lyrical prowess when she’s showed time and time again she’s a very uneven songwriter. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanasbottom 23,694 Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Sportscruiser said: Not to mention Lorde’s abilities as a songwriter. It’s truly staggering that a 16 year old Lorde was able to write a whole album about growing up as a teenager who feels more radical, mature and forward-thinking than 33 year old Taylor Swift reminiscing about past relationships and revenge-fueled fantasies. Which leads me to another point: why exactly is Taylor Swift perceived as one of the greatest songwriters working today? Sure, she’s capable of storytelling greatness and even poetry as proved by Folkmore but a crushing majority of what exists before those albums + Midnights is quite… average songwriting - even redundant at times. The songs structures are very much similar to one another, the metaphors she uses are often compared to Lana’s because a lot of times she does sound like she’s been studying Lana for a long time and also wants to dive into summoning contemplative, evocative Americana symbolism but is that really enough to label someone as one of the greatest songwriters of our time? Even melodically speaking, she’s come to a point where her melodies are starting to blend into one another, with several Midnights tracks resembling others from previous albums, uncannily so Fr Melodrama and even Pure Heroine (considering her very young age back then) are excellent both sonically and lyrically, and miles ahead of what Taylor thinks she’s doing. On the topic of why everyone sees her as a god now is more than perplexing since, as you say, the material’s just not there i’m sawry She can write good songs and she’s good at making very catchy music/melodies but literally that’s it. When you see threads being made asking if children will study her in 100+ years like they do with Beethoven, Bach and Tchaikovsky you just pause and ask yourself if swifties live in another reality/dimension or are just in dire need of new meds… She’s an okay songwriter, way below average singer and that’s literally it. Even as a performer everyone from Beyoncé and Gaga to Janet, Madonna and yes even Katy (on a good day) eat her alive in the stage department. I’ll never understand how nor why she’s viewed as some kinda musical genius when her best works are just cliché Lana Del Rey imitations 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillrun 3,380 Posted October 21, 2022 the breakdowns in this thread…. ot: my favorite tracks right now are Anti-Hero, Snow on The Beach and Karma. i haven’t listened to the bonus tracks yet. 2 Quote last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,543 Posted October 21, 2022 do we have the alternate artworks in HQ? i wanna use the Mahogany one in my library but all I find is the CD and vinyl mockups from the website 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,538 Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, letterblue said: i haven’t listened to the bonus tracks yet. dew it asap 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wait For Life 16,741 Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Glitter Boy said: do we have the alternate artworks in HQ? i wanna use the Mahogany one in my library but all I find is the CD and vinyl mockups from the website This one? 2 Quote Gazing at horizons but never quite reaching them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,543 Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wait For Life said: This one? This is amazing, thanks a lot! I might use that one instead I was looking for this one, probably mistook the name tho: 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillrun 3,380 Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: This is amazing, thanks a lot! I might use that one instead I was looking for this one, probably mistook the name tho: LOVE this one. lmk if you find it so i can change mine too fjdjdjdj 2 Quote last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 76,301 Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, letterblue said: .............what are you doing? does she have you this upset? I’m writing a Taylor swift song… 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wait For Life 16,741 Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: This is amazing! I might use that one instead I was looking for this one, probably mistook the name tho: Oh.. I have these too I don’t even listen to Taylor so idk the names 5 Quote Gazing at horizons but never quite reaching them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,273 Posted October 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: This is amazing, thanks a lot! I might use that one instead I was looking for this one, probably mistook the name tho: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/taylor-swift/images/a/ab/MidnightsMahogany.JPEG/revision/latest?cb=20221008062840 1 Quote ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ 𓊔 I took the miracle move on drug 𓊔 ⚕️ The effects were temporary ⚕️ ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,543 Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, letterblue said: LOVE this one. lmk if you find it so i can change mine too fjdjdjdj Did this quickie remake lol hope it will do for now 3 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillrun 3,380 Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: Did this quickie remake lol hope it will do for now tysm 1 Quote last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBoss 13,477 Posted October 21, 2022 The 3 AM tracks cleared! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBoss 13,477 Posted October 21, 2022 I had a 2nd listen after a very underwhelming first listen, now with a clear mind and embracing the synth pop sound an I honestly really liked it! There's a few tracks that I kinda dislike, and now listening to the 3 AM tracks this album could've been way better than what the standard sets it up to be 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Party Favor 10,306 Posted October 21, 2022 So who do we think bigger than the whole sky is about 0 Quote leak the barrie-james co-written songs + elvis (2013) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 26,513 Posted October 21, 2022 The overlong interruption in the music video for Anti-Hero is overkill and annoying. Lana had a much better solution in the Chemtrails video. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Stargirl Pinky 71,631 Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Party Favor said: So who do we think bigger than the whole sky is about I’m listening to it for the first time as I type this and I’m SOBBING fuck this I’m out, she did that 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Siren 30,517 Posted October 21, 2022 why must everyone compare every synthpop album to fucking melodrama? melodrama was not any good to begin with 0 Quote Last.FM | Discogs | JOYRIDE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites