Eminem Raps About Punching Lana Del Rey

[stadiumarcadium 137]

I love Lana. I love Eminem. I guess I'm fucked if I don't take sides - but I won't and instead I'm just gonna chill. 

[PrettyBaby 2,219]

 

I don't think Eminem's reference to LDR is a joke or there is very little in the way of humor in this rap. There may be a lot of wit and art to it, but the emotionality is all wrong for humor. Rob Grant may have nailed it by referring to the rap as an anger managment issue (or an exorcism of sorts).

 

BTW I got lyrics from youtube user: Muhammed Atas (a true hero of the Internet, imo), who left it as a comment, which will probably be buried very soon. 

 

lyrics : 

I just turned Slaughterhouse to a quintet

Began to trend-set, murdered the friend's pet

Made shit as ill as it can get went in depth

Like a fucking vignette and two bars skins wet

I'm already covered in sweat

And I wasn't even ready to come in yet

AHH, let me set this drink down

Beat up a gal, start beef with her pal

Probably be wild 'til I'm wrinkled and senile

And "Rap God" was a freestyle

Off the top of the dome piece while I was sleep on the couch

And I'm freestyling now

I need a towel, sweat leaks from my brow

It's burning my eyes, my cerebral is foul

Cause shit I'm thinking about should be illegal

I need my head banned like the guy who left Cleveland Ohio

And went to South Beach with his talents

Scream "fuck you" on the way out and wink with a smile

This whole game can eat a dick, I'm going back deep underground

But right now I'm back on that bullshit and you I'm singling out

Cause you're so fucking outdated you should mingle a while

What the fuck is this clusterfuck of busters

Bunch of Buster Douglas', motherfuckers is one hit wonders

One swing and you're crowned

Knocked one out the park, one catchy jingle and now

You think you fucking with me cause you sold like 300 thou

Bitch, I can jump without my feet ever leaving the ground

Reach up, swing from a cloud with 3 thousand people around

Evil and vile enough to leap in the crowd

And heave a child in a sink hole on Cinco De Mayo

When I'm sprinkled in pico de gallo

Mardi Gras beads in a towel

I just made that up

I don't know much Spanish, I'm not bilingual

But I'll show you a Mexican stand off

Between just these two amigos

Cause neither really wants to say what we're thinking out loud

But I sure as fuck think I know how rebody English, no doubt

Cause we're trying to kill each other, but lyrically

The fuck is humility? What is a real emcee?

Royce, he came up in the shit with me

Never spit that hustler shit, it wasn't a fit for me

Let them adjust 'til they just get the gist of me

Just not giving a fuck and plus with the history

Of muscular distrophy, it wasn't a mystery

Why this middle finger was stuck in this upward positioning

So what in the fuck is a list to me?

I'm used to not being on it, I expect it out 'em

Heck wit' em, I get my respect without 'em

Ain't really been into diamonds since I put my first record out

But I could put a chain around my second album

And wear it as a neck medallion

Became a millionaire, went downhill from there

Became civil, office swivel chair, sterling silverware

Screaming life is still unfair til I get a real career

The fuck am I gonna do until then? This job is too fulfilling

Two gazillion pairs of super villain shoes to fill in

And a mood to kill till I plow my Coupe de Ville

To some children at the food pavilion at Build-A-Bear

Warrior's mind, I’m pro-hydrocodone euphoria

In the drug emporium line, I'm soaring

I'm pouring Vicodin four at the time ignoring the warning signs on 'em fore I go four wheeler driving

Gory and violent and horrifying

You surely won't find no one more appalling

Than I am with this retaliatorial rhyming for Gloria Steinem

But I finger her like a witness, show me a line-up

I usually am abusive, but excuse me, ma'am

I guess I must've threw you for a loop like toucan Sam

When I said I could use the sample cause you'se a tramp

But look how you react to this trigger like

When I call you a bigger dyke than the Hoover Dam

You playing right in Lex Luthor's hands

It's such a ruthless plan, might even lose a fan

But fuck it, Superman wouldn't change in a phone booth for Stan

I'm a brand new being like Grand Puba's band

Happy as Anderson Cooper having a tuba crammed

In his pooper with lubricant...wait, that's too... I can't

Since honesty is the best policy I'll give you the old college try

Try to acknowledge my mistakes, probably won't qualify

As a gentleman and a scholar, but it's time that I swallow pride

And say that I'm sorry, sorry that I can't apologize

I think of all them times I compromised my bottom lines

And thought of rhymes that sodomized your daughter's minds

Then I'm like dollar signs

But I may fight for gay rights especially if they dyke

It's more of a knockout than Janay Rice

Play nice, bitch, I punch Lana Del Rey right

In the face twice like Ray Rice in broad daylight

In plain sight of the elevator surveillance

Til her head is banged on the railing

Then celebrate with the Ravens

Never date an assailant that self-medicates with inhalants

I meditate, but I may need a better way to escape

The aggression, rage and the anger

Cause them restraints on the ankles

Heavyweights and an anchor with handcuffs in chains

This ain't enough to contain it

But I still get the same respect as Jay if I came on

Stage in a fucking negligee everyday and Liz Claiborne

Devastated from breakup with Kate Hudson

Wait slut, your friends, what are they gonna say

Cause makeup ain't gonna cover

That eye that's seven-eighths of the way shut

Peppersprayed with your face cut

Made my bank like a lay up

Off these effing skanks on the way up

Oh, bitch thinks she's heaven sent

It's evident that she ain't never been with seven inches

Yes, I said seven, I measured it

Seven inches from the floor

While I'm standing on the fourth floor balcony

At the Sheridan when I'm stretching it

Bitch, I'm a pimp so a limp dick is all you'll ever get

So if she's hesitant to get the hint

I'll bet you that I get the message sent who she's messing with

Hella quick when I tell a chick not to never use sex as a weapon

When I step in and beat the wretched wench with a crescent wrench

Existential detriments to a lesbian devil

In the unpleasant stench of an estrogen level

That separatists like a Chechnian rebel

Impressionist with a pencil

A pessimist, with his lips pressed against

The edge of this Red Bull

Pedal to the metal I'm rippin' this shit cause right away I'll give it to a bitch like a pedestrian, deadly as ever

You see what kind of effects she has on the opposite sex when I push her flexible little sexy ass through a plate of plexiglass

SHADYXV as perplexing as

The last fifteen years and I'm predicting my next relapse

When I spit these lyrics so don't look at me weird

When I start shifting gears and shit re-smears all over Britney Spears

And these little Disney queers

Who use chicks for beards?

Just made that up too...

Oh and the Shady 2.0

We wrote it in roman numerals like they do for the Super Bowls

Cause it's supposed to confuse you hoes

The flows lose you as usual, so juvenile

2 year old when I go to the studio

It's only music but don't be foolish though

You don't know me through it ho but you can blow me to it though

In my homie's Buick

Been known to lose it though so if I overdo it you drove me to it

When I step in the vocal booth like I'm supposed to do

And I murder you on a fuckin' track like Tony Stewart

In one take, if I fuck up I don't redo it

You couldn't sound grown on a beat if you were moaning to it

The day I don't say fuck you all, you can throw me through it

Rootinest-tootinest, shootin' this from the hip

With the sentiments, Eminem isn't penning them for the women

I'm an enemy to them and the epitome of an inconsiderate idiot

But they consider me equivalent to chlamydia

They tryna get rid of me gadzooks

But I stiggity stand for the fliggity flag

Of the United States and the freedom, I distribute these raps through

And if I catch you doing anything

Hindering or prohibiting that after I give me that

Tattoo of your lips on my ass I'mma be literally

Pickin' up and deliberately whippin' the Statue of Liberty at you WOOOOH!

 

Fuck it

 

Got it somewhere in there probably

 

 

Oh, Eminem.    You have been hurt. For far too long you have carried the burden of a pseudowarrior mentality in a post-warrior society, along with the accompanying dickhurt. 

 

But yeah, he's not joking. He may still be "punching up," though. I think in a weird way he's commiserating with Janay Rice, saying she didn't get justice because she's not one of the "Beautiful People" that our culture cares about. While implicating himself as one of the "Rich People" feeding upon the beauty of others, and he does Ray Rice one "better" by targeting one of the Beautiful People he could catch hell for harming. Thus flaming us all for our entitlement issues, while mocking his own?

 

I don't know, I haven't followed Eminem and his themes. Am I close?

[Anthem 1,558]

 

I'm a brand new being like Grand Puba's band

Happy as Anderson Cooper having a tuba crammed

In his pooper with lubricant...wait, that's too... I can't

 

 

What the fuck   

[evilentity 13,343]

Looks like Daddy Grant's still pissed:

https://twitter.com/robgrantdotcom/status/532992310665940992

[tropicunt 638]

This whole thing makes me so sad because I keep thinking about when I saw her at Music Midtown in Atlanta... She performed at the same stage as Eminem, she was two(?) sets before him. Then when Eminem came on, I saw Lana back on the side I was standing next to watching him. She looked so excited to see him. She was there at his set supporting him. I don't know if she really cares this much, but I feel like being dissed by someone you admire is one of the worst things to go through, whether he meant it or not.

 

edit: Found the photo of Lana watching Eminem's set 

[VegasBaby 895]

Talking (or in his case, rapping) about an incident of domestic violence does not trivialize it. How it can even be trivialized when EVERYONE (well, hopefully..) knows it’s a horrible event?

Because it normalizes it and turns it into entertainment?

[Baby V Alex 2,859]

Reading a little won't hurt you eyes

 

By quoting the Goddess Adore Delano

 

"I'm playing dumb and winning"  

[TRENCH 15,450]

I love Lana. I love Eminem. I guess I'm fucked if I don't take sides - but I won't and instead I'm just gonna chill. 

 

Yes, as based on these comments both sides of the issue are being extremist;

yes, what he said is very wrong and even rapping about Ray Rice at the state his case is being presented all over the media was a dumb move, but some of the comments saying how he needs to die is not doing justice either

 

funny how some would say don't fight violence with violence, when that is all I see

[TRENCH 15,450]

I can admit that he's a good rapper but he lacks lyrical quality, doesn't rap about real issues and he's the 90's male equivalent to Iggy Azalea. Just a white guy deemed the "best in his genre" because he's an anomoly and that was capitalized upon early in his career.

 

http://youtu.be/kAZykCSVF40

 

http://youtu.be/WYlp5EjU7uo

 

 

[omgitsnathan 142]

Because it normalizes it and turns it into entertainment?

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

[ilovetati 15,298]

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

Desensitization is much more gradual than that. It's very much a real thing.

[HEARTCORE 18,971]

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

But Eminem rapping about domestics violence in this way is going to validate the actions of potential domestic abusers. It's the same as rape jokes - if a potential rapist hears someone tell a rape joke, they're going to think that rape is acceptable because that person has desensitised the severity of rape and has made it seem like not a big deal. It's true that it won't affect every single person but even if it validates the wishes of just one abuser, it still makes it a toxic and harmful song.

[Sophia 301]

But Eminem rapping about domestics violence in this way is going to validate the actions of potential domestic abusers. It's the same as rape jokes - if a potential rapist hears someone tell a rape joke, they're going to think that rape is acceptable because that person has desensitised the severity of rape and has made it seem like not a big deal. It's true that it won't affect every single person but even if it validates the wishes of just one abuser, it still makes it a toxic and harmful song

 But it's okay for lana to sing about violence, right? Won't 'he hit me and it fell like a kiss' 'hit me and tell me you're mine' validate the actions of the potential abuser? you are so hypocritical.

[PrettyBaby 2,219]

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

 

Sensible people often look the other way. This is part of the problem.

 

I think both Eminem and Lana Del Rey's subject matter warrants scrutiny, but both deserve fair consideration of what they are trying to say before dismissing them as "glorifying violence." But it is possible for one to handle their subject matter well while the other doesn't.

 

The more I think about "Shady Cxvpher," the more I get the vibe that Eminem uses sexist/homophobic slurs that are motivated by class struggle, not gender/orientation issues. (For example, it's not so much that Eminem is pissed at any woman who won't sleep with him, as much as he's pissed at any woman who thinks she's too good to sleep with him.) That doesn't make it okay, of course. But it does explain why some fans see him as "not misogynistic." Of course, deliberate use of such slurs makes it more serious than a matter of simple "insensitivity."

[HEARTCORE 18,971]

 But it's okay for lana to sing about violence, right? Won't 'he hit me and it fell like a kiss' 'hit me and tell me you're mine' validate the actions of the potential abuser? you are so hypocritical.

 

 

Where the hell did I say that Lana's glorification of physical violence is acceptable? Hmm? 

I already took up the problem of Lana's apparent pro-abuse message in a lot of her songs in a different thread. This thread is specifically about Eminem's abusive content in his lyrics, not about Lana's. Chill.

[Viva 3,169]

young children (people in general) are already exposed to culture, media, video games, and etc that can be seen as potentially detrimental to their growth, but at the end of the day, those individuals are the ones who ultimately decide whether or not the aforementioned factors will impact them. for example, if a young person were to hear this verse or anything similar, i sincerely doubt it would influence, implying they even have the capacity to understand him, them at all because it's just common sense, implying they're of age to have one, that hitting people is bad.

i didn't think of how this could be a encouraging trigger to those already prone of domestic violence, so thank you for that.

and you're right, this shitty song is impacting culture. i mean, look at us right now. people here are discussing it's possible effects, or just completely shutting out and ending all discussion because they're so fixed on their position that they aren't even open to listening and having a progressive conversation.

 

I can agree in part with what you say, but in reality doesn't work like that. In a normal household it may be like that, in a ghetto or slum rules are different because those people are exposed to actual violence, domestic included, in a daily bases. 

 

Words have power, violent lyrics have power, specially because of what you said: we are on our daily bases exposed to it every day, from video games, to film and music, to the newspaper and tv news, youtube videos and etc.

 

The difference is that when we, people like me and you and probably most on this board, arrive home violence doesn't go home with us. It's not our lives inside our house hold. You don't sleep at the sound of gun shots, you don't think gun shots is a normal or day by day sound. When violence is all over you 24 hours is complicated. 

 

The problem is not Eminem or other rappers, is that you don't have a rapper as famous as them making music with another point of view. You don't have a balance point, goes from extremely aggressive to middle aggressive. You don't have a cool hip hop video about the cool smart girl for every this Whos's aint loyal and other Chris Brown videos. 

 

You don't have any rapper, female or male, as famous as Eminem, doing something different, there isn't a balance. That's the problem IMO, not Eminem itself. You can't chose because there's only this option. 

 

 

 

I find this topic incredibly frustrating, partly because I feel like I can't argue my full beliefs because they're too complicated. I spent a decade obsessed with the power electronics group Whitehouse, whose lyrics and themes make Eminem look like Idina Menzel (and whose main member, William Bennett, wrote an interesting review of Ultraviolence), but after a long time I felt alienated by the cheap thrills that referencing sex crimes and serial killers can bring about. I've followed Eminem for a long time from afar, and have always felt that he had the right to say what he wants to say, and be vile when he wants to. But if you're coming after Lana, I'm going to be on your ass (and I've got Azealia backing me up). I'm not trying to take anyone's music away, or make them feel bad for thinking something's cool. I know what it's like to feel the need to protect something that you care about, and that the general public thinks is 'filth'. So ... sorry for adding to the essays, @@ilovetati and everyone else can carry on with talking across each other.

 

 

Because it normalizes it and turns it into entertainment?

 

 

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

 

During a football match between Barcelona and Villareal someone throw a banana on the field at Daniel Alves, Barcelona player. It's a way to call the guy a moneky. Before he kick the corner he ate the banana, it went viral. Next day Neymar, another Barcelona player, made a IG saying "we are all Monkeys"  with his son both with holding bananas. The thing spread and suddenly everyone was taking pics with the freaking banana (black, white, yellow...). Many people were outraged by the campaign pic, specially towards players and celebs posting themselves eating or holding a banana. I thought was funny and a intelligent way to put the joke on the racist, making him the ridiculous one.  

 

 

 

In the end of the day, I doubt anyone will ever throw a banana at Daniel Alves again, maybe even at any other black player (this banana thing happens often). Daniel Alves didn't say a word, he won by eating the fucking banana. 

 

Sometimes I do think people make matters to serious and don't bring a counterpoint to the table. There isn't anyone arguing or making a lyrical dialogue with Eminem, there isn't any rapper putting him in his place in somewhat a funny way telling him his a idiot. There isn't anyone eating bananas.

 

Do you think Eminem would dare to go after Mariah in his lyrics again? She finished him with Obsessed.

 

 

 

 But it's okay for lana to sing about violence, right? Won't 'he hit me and it fell like a kiss' 'hit me and tell me you're mine' validate the actions of the potential abuser? you are so hypocritical.

 

I don't think Lana indulges violence in her lyrics, imo is just some kinky harmless stuff. Hit her in the ass, or pull her hair. Hit me can also mean putting his dick inside her. Either way, even if you think she indulges violence, she craves that for herself and not towards others. That for those who think she's asking to actually be hit, which I don't agree with. 

 

Sensible people often look the other way. This is part of the problem.

 

I think both Eminem and Lana Del Rey's subject matter warrants scrutiny, but both deserve fair consideration of what they are trying to say before dismissing them as "glorifying violence." But it is possible for one to handle their subject matter well while the other doesn't.

 

The more I think about "Shady Cxvpher," the more I get the vibe that Eminem uses sexist/homophobic slurs that are motivated by class struggle, not gender/orientation issues. (For example, it's not so much that Eminem is pissed at any woman who won't sleep with him, as much as he's pissed at any woman who thinks she's too good to sleep with him.) That doesn't make it okay, of course. But it does explain why some fans see him as "not misogynistic." Of course, deliberate use of such slurs makes it more serious than a matter of simple "insensitivity."

 

If in his interviews or speeches his words were any different from the lyrics I could see what you are pointing out, problem is whenever he opens his mouth he's the same jerk that writes the lyrics.

[TRENCH 15,450]

Do you think Eminem would dare to go after Mariah in his lyrics again? She finished him with Obsessed.

 

[VegasBaby 895]

He's a man-child that has to have the last word. Qt really.

[omgitsnathan 142]

But Eminem rapping about domestics violence in this way is going to validate the actions of potential domestic abusers. It's the same as rape jokes - if a potential rapist hears someone tell a rape joke, they're going to think that rape is acceptable because that person has desensitised the severity of rape and has made it seem like not a big deal. It's true that it won't affect every single person but even if it validates the wishes of just one abuser, it still makes it a toxic and harmful song.

not necessarily, but people who have a history of domestic violence COULD potentially be triggered.

but i now understand how it can be seen as a harmful song. however, i still think those assuming it's going to influence EVERYONE to physically assault others is wrong.

[HEARTCORE 18,971]

not necessarily, but people who have a history of domestic violence COULD potentially be triggered.

but i now understand how it can be seen as a harmful song. however, i still think those assuming it's going to influence EVERYONE to physically assault others is wrong.

yes necessarily - if you are an abuser/potential abuser and hear Eminem rapping about it in such a nonchalant manner, it's going to have an impact on you. there's no doubt about it; it'll validate your actions and make you feel that your behaviour is acceptable. 

 

of course, it won't just happen if you hear one person doing it. but Eminem is a small part of a bigger picture of society and the media that subtly (and sometimes explicitly) encourages domestic abuse, especially towards women.