Lana's Eli Roth Collaboration Surfaces; Marilyn Manson Denies Then Clarifies Involvement

[Guest Dot]

So let's discuss every movie that has a rape scene in it. I think they should all be banned.

 

I've been quiet about this the whole time but I feel now that the fuzz about this is over I can express myself. It's an art project. It's supposed to be shocking as most art projects are these days. Nothing new, nothing exciting. It's not an actual rape scene but an enactment of a rape scenario. It was also probably completely taken out of context due to the fact that this might only be a short preview of the full project.

 

I seriously don't get why everyone is being so sensitive about everything nowadays. I've given my two cents, drag me, whatever...I'm out.

[Thunder Revenant 20,951]

^

 

All this "she really persumed to do a lot of shit this year! First the feminism thing and now rape!" stuff is so pathetic. She's ACTING in a rape scene and you don't know the context. Of course it's uncomfortable, would be more alarming if it wouldn't. She did NOTHING to glorify rape, they reanacted it, that doesn't mean you approve of it.

Some people just WANT to be upset here and ignore all of this simple facts.

[Paradise Man 29]

This year turned out to be so much worse than last year when it comes to bad publicity for Lana. Feminism and space, ultraviolence lyrics, the "I wish I was dead" quote, the revelation she fucked with a lot of guys of the industry, Eminem diss and now rape to add to the list. I'm kinda worried about her career now  it seems even in the Uk/Europe people hate her now '-'

Nobody hates Lana, she blesses world with her songs and beauty, anyhow the word is she's under illuminati influence, nowadays people feel sorry for such celebs, not as in past when ignorance lead to hatred. Every new level of the g(f)ame it gets tougher, so if any worried about her, just send her love and yell off haters astray.

[SoftcoreBabyface 262]

cinema doesn’t need to make sweeping statements about society. 

 

 “Oh, does this mean you feel this way about women and men in general?” No. It’s this particular woman in this particular place going through these particular things. That woman does not represent all women — and this is very important.

 

- David Lynch

[Wilde_child 490]

Lana is NOT under the Illuminati's control FFS.

This whole Illuminati conspiracy theory is quite silly, really. Christian religion is not the only one that is good. If people follow other philosophies, it doesn't mean they are evil.

[larina 682]

Lana is NOT under the Illuminati's control FFS.

This whole Illuminati conspiracy theory is quite silly, really. Christian religion is not the only one that is good. If people follow other philosophies, it doesn't mean they are evil.

 

 yas preach it!

[IconicSoul 196]

No I love Lana more than the last year. I still listen to all UV songs in repeat and the photoshots slay your faves. I don't care about publicity Lana is total slayage in 2014

[TRENCH 15,450]

Lana is NOT under the Illuminati's control FFS.

This whole Illuminati conspiracy theory is quite silly, really. Christian religion is not the only one that is good. If people follow other philosophies, it doesn't mean they are evil.

i didnt get what you are trying to say

[IconicSoul 196]

He means that people slamming Illuminati are quite christian fanatics and he explains that Christianity is not the only good religion out there and there are religions philosophies that are not evil at all either Lana is part of it or not (illuminati)

[larina 682]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to make anyone think that was a real video..and I was gonna just post it in a status but thought it may be reluvent..sorry guys

 

The video may be fake but the snippet is out http://chicaperrycola.tumblr.com/post/104222647458/chicaperrycola-big-eyes-1-min-snippet

[Neptune-Avenue 220]

both full songs are out by this point in the day lol [: 

[larina 682]

both full songs are out by this point in the day lol [: 

Yeah, I literally just downloaded them. I saw the song first here, then I think it was the day before that I first saw the audio but I was on my phone and Tumblr audios don't play on my phone, but I dismissed it as fake. I then listened to it via my blog yesterday and found out it wasn't a low quality version of Lift Your Eyes like the video was but I thought it was some unreleased. I thought the Tim Burtom film thing was just a rumour! I am so unupdated!

[ilovetati 15,299]

http://www.nme.com/news/marilyn-manson/81668

 

Wow.

[evilentity 13,345]

http://www.nme.com/news/marilyn-manson/81668

 

Wow.

Finally he's saying something that sounds closer to the truth.

[trayertrash 7,211]

Waiting for half the site to start bashing MM for calling Lana a problem. 

[longtimeman 8,943]

Waiting for half the site to start bashing MM for calling Lana a problem. 

 

Nobody can accuse me of starting to bash him now (I started in 1996), but this is some beyond Lana-level obfuscation. 

 

that video was something that was done with a camera that Eli (Roth - director), who's my friend, and I both wanted to test out, so I let him test it out 

The headline should be "Marilyn Manson runs crying from controversial Lana Del Rey project"

[Viva 3,170]

There's a saddest truth about all this that no one mentioned. Truth is this shows the value US and media gives to woman victims of rape or woman in general. These American websites dragged Lana to the dirty for over a year because her dad had money and invested in her career, she changed her name, did a couple plastic surgeries and wasn't authentic. A bunch of crap they repeated non stop making her "a internet joke" . That and that SNL performance. They dragged her again this year over a comment on the dead and suicide. 

 

Now here we are, 2014. She does something like this video with MM and Routh, intentional or not the video leaks. Incomplete or not, is disturbing because is rape just for rape, ain't art because doesn't create a discussion, ain't nothing but a rape scene. The media doesn't say A SINGLE WORD. Mainly obscure blogs/sites gave a line or 2 to the subject, nothing else.

 

Lip  fillers, plastic surgery, accusing an artist which is clearly authentic of not being so it's worth a fucking year of discussion. Rape and calling out for something that actually matters the reason why she chose to do it, doesn't deserve attention.

 

The subject is not Lana anymore, is the FUCK they give to rape victims in US. If in that video was Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Ariana I truly believe they wouldn't care either.

[slang 1,532]

All of the stuff LDR's been accused of glamorizing (e.g. abusive relationships, and I guess with this video, rape) has been swarming in the US media lately as major news. It's eclipsed a bit by civil rights (e.g., police brutality), but it's being discussed. It's just not specifically attached to LDR as the other stuff @@Viva cites. Discussion seems to be coming more from personal experience (e.g., Lady Gaga just reported her own rape experience; as did Kesha before her).  

 

However, it is still necessary to consider what the negative effects of rape depiction in art is as this person does.

 

http://www.xojane.com/issues/lana-del-rey-rape-video

 

Maybe it's not "60 minutes", but tumblrs and blogs often do work effectively as discussion venues.

[comeintomybedroom 8,657]

There's no one to blame but Lana and Eli. They filmed it, they knew what they were doing, they wanted to do it.

Does it really matter if there's hidden context we don't know about? Rape is rape. Like I know Lana is our favorite, but you can't defend her without also thinking rape is something that's okay. She fucked up to be honest.

[longtimeman 8,943]

rape is something that's okay

Right.