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[MargaretThatcher 1,331]

False. It directly influences her music.

 

Not to mention that most people don't like to think that the artists they stan are shitty people (and I'm not saying she is a shitty person, just that it affects my overall perception of her).

So Lana is a “shitty” person?

 

As for being a “Stan” that is wrong. No one should be a Stan. You, nor I or any other fan of Lana owns her. We do not own her. She does not need to ask anyone permission about who she dates. That’s up to her.

 

But again, they are no longer together.

[gatadelrey 4,617]

stay high isn't a 'glad you're gone' break up song though.... the lyrics are literally "you're gone and i've gotta stay high all the time to keep you off my mind"

You’re right, but If they were back together and in the car together then I wouldn’t really think of that as an appropriate song to be playing either. I got the vibe that she was dancing and looking happy in the car bc he’s not on her mind. Like hey I’m in Tulsa but I’m not thinking of you.

[Dark Angel 202,222]

am i the only one who thinks that the song she was playing really doesn't mean anything? she probably was just bopping to it and happened to have someone take a video of her dancing. i think if she wanted to get back at sean she would play a song that was a little more obvious and i don't think "stay high" is that obvious enough.  

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

On 7/23/2020 at 10:55 AM, CocainePrincess said:

grimes is with elon musk who is a person that represents a lot of what grimes has been against but she's still a good person and makes good music

 

IMO, to an extent Grimes must agree with, or at least turn a blind eye to, Elon's bullshit. For me, it's the same deal as with Lana: I still like her music, but it affects how I perceive her as a person when she dates someone who is obviously of questionable character.

 

An artist's personal beliefs and actions matter a lot to some fans, and not at all to others. I'm somewhere in between. I am not a fan of Sean, but I also know it's unlikely to last, especially because they have already clearly broken up at least once, so

[violets 11,896]

all im saying is that i would not waste my time defending her if she was being dragged bc she is with this man again.   ill listen to the music, praise her, buy her shit, but ill let her get dragged, not worth my defense.   hes a fame hungry pig. i think thats obvious. and may i add, multiple psychic readings on her and her relationship on YT have said the same thing about him. and yes i believe in those so i WILL be using that in my defense. thank you 

[Fingertips 72,034]

all im saying is that i would not waste my time defending her if she was being dragged bc she is with this man again.   ill listen to the music, praise her, buy her shit, but ill let her get dragged, not worth my defense.   hes a fame hungry pig. i think thats obvious. and may i add, multiple psychic readings on her and her relationship on YT have said the same thing about him. and yes i believe in those so i WILL be using that in my defense. thank you 

Ok, I can agree with this

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

So Lana is a “shitty” person?

 

As for being a “Stan” that is wrong. No one should be a Stan. You, nor I or any other fan of Lana owns her. We do not own her. She does not need to ask anyone permission about who she dates. That’s up to her.

 

But again, they are no longer together.

 

I literally wrote, "I'm not saying that she's a shitty person". Don't @ me if you're not going to read what I wrote. Thanks.

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

all im saying is that i would not waste my time defending her if she was being dragged bc she is with this man again.   ill listen to the music, praise her, buy her shit, but ill let her get dragged, not worth my defense.   hes a fame hungry pig. i think thats obvious. and may i add, multiple psychic readings on her and her relationship on YT have said the same thing about him. and yes i believe in those so i WILL be using that in my defense. thank you 

Exactly. Great post.

[MargaretThatcher 1,331]

I literally wrote, "I'm not saying that she's a shitty person". Don't @ me if you're not going to read what I wrote. Thanks.

But the term was used and it can be interpreted that way. Bottom line is that Lana’s private life is her business.

 

And I don’t know what is making people think she is back with Sean. That IG post is a clear diss at him and the fans on here at least think they are back together.

 

She has never gotten back together with any of her ex’s. Maybe she isn’t even looking for a man right now.

 

Right now she is on a humanitarian trip for Native American causes. She is doing something for others, not herself.

[Rust Dress 40,200]

But the term was used and it can be interpreted that way. Bottom line is that Lana’s private life is her business.

 

And I don’t know what is making people think she is back with Sean. That IG post is a clear diss at him and the fans on here at least think they are back together.

 

She has never gotten back together with any of her ex’s. Maybe she isn’t even looking for a man right now.

 

Right now she is on a humanitarian trip for Native American causes. She is doing something for others, not herself.

You’re right, her private life is her business. However, they made their relationship pretty open. Also, there’s room for speculation since the car that Lana was in is EXTREMELY similar to Sean’s.

[MargaretThatcher 1,331]

You’re right, her private life is her business. However, they made their relationship pretty open. Also, there’s room for speculation since the car that Lana was in is EXTREMELY similar to Sean’s.

And those cars; the 1964 coupe Deville and the 1964 El Dorado are very common amongst collectors. I see them at every antique car show I go to. I see them on the streets sometimes.

 

Do you know just how easy it is to find one of those? It’s real easy. I can probably go out tomorrow and find one to use for a film shoot quickly. They used one in “Mad Men”.

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

But the term was used and it can be interpreted that way. Bottom line is that Lana’s private life is her business.

 

And I don’t know what is making people think she is back with Sean. That IG post is a clear diss at him and the fans on here at least think they are back together.

 

She has never gotten back together with any of her ex’s. Maybe she isn’t even looking for a man right now.

 

Right now she is on a humanitarian trip for Native American causes. She is doing something for others, not herself.

 

Um, no. You don't get to tell me what I was saying or thinking.

 

You also don't get to tell people what to talk about here, and please stop pushing your opinion as fact. It isn't. Nobody knows for sure either way, including you. If you don't wanna talk about her relationships, then don't?

[paradisetropico 7,916]

her feed is off center now so I suspect she might post 2 more posts soon?

[MargaretThatcher 1,331]

Let me say this;

 

I come from a music industry family. My father is a Grammy nominated engineer.

 

Stan culture and toxic fandom hurts artists. Obsessing over Lana’s dating life is crossing a line. Her personal life is no business of the fans. The only things the fans have a right to is the art the artist makes. Everything else is off limits.

 

And toxic fandom hurts the artist an can have dangerous effects on the mental health of the artist. Lana has had issues with depression and has mental health issues of her own. If you truly love and care about her you will stay out of her private life. Who she dates is not her business and you have no business knowing where she lives and camping in her garage like some fans once did.

 

Lana has the right to space and privacy. You do not own her. She is not your property. No artist is the property of their fans.

 

This life is not easy. Being a musician is not easy at all. Musicians are human beings. Stan culture and toxic fandoms can destroy an artist. Nine years ago today it destroyed Amy Winehouse, so we need to think very carefully about our behavior rather than who an artist dates.

 

And again this who discussion is not even needed because Lana and Sean broke up.

[drugsdesire 9,868]

^ people on this forum are allowed to talk about anything that has to do with lana because she is a public figure. she is the one who chose this life and who is in the spotlight. nobody here is crossing any line right now

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

Let me say this;

 

I come from a music industry family. My father is a Grammy nominated engineer.

 

Stan culture and toxic fandom hurts artists. Obsessing over Lana’s dating life is crossing a line. Her personal life is no business of the fans. The only things the fans have a right to is the art the artist makes. Everything else is off limits.

 

And toxic fandom hurts the artist an can have dangerous effects on the mental health of the artist. Lana has had issues with depression and has mental health issues of her own. If you truly love and care about her you will stay out of her private life. Who she dates is not her business and you have no business knowing where she lives and camping in her garage like some fans once did.

 

Lana has the right to space and privacy. You do not own her. She is not your property. No artist is the property of their fans.

 

This life is not easy. Being a musician is not easy at all. Musicians are human beings. Stan culture and toxic fandoms can destroy an artist. Nine years ago today it destroyed Amy Winehouse, so we need to think very carefully about our behavior rather than who an artist dates.

 

And again this who discussion is not even needed because Lana and Sean broke up.

Aren't you the same person who started threads about Lana's dietary habits and the type of car she drives?

 

So all of that's okay, but you draw the line at people discussing her relationships? Interesting.

 

Also, the comment about fans camping out in her garage ... I don't see anyone here implying that they would ever do that (and I hope to God nobody here ever would). Discussing her relationship is not nearly the same as stalking her; I'm not even sure how you made that jump, but it's quite yikes that you did.

 

Pleeeease stop acting like you have the authority to tell other people what to talk about because you have a relative who was in the music industry/you attend car shows/whatever else.

 

Discussion board = discussion. And you're not a moderator.

[MargaretThatcher 1,331]

^ people on this forum are allowed to talk about anything that has to do with lana because she is a public figure. she is the one who chose this life and who is in the spotlight. nobody here is crossing any line right now

People are free to discuss but passing judgement and saying who she should or should not date, that’s no business of the fans. Toxic fan culture can exist and I just wanted to make a point about that.

Aren't you the same person who started threads about Lana's dietary habits and the type of car she drives?

 

So all of that's okay, but you draw the line at people discussing her relationships? Interesting.

 

Also, the comment about fans camping out in her garage ... I don't see anyone here implying that they would ever do that (and I hope to God nobody here ever would). Discussing her relationship is not nearly the same as stalking her; I'm not even sure how you made that jump, but it's quite yikes that you did.

 

Pleeeease stop acting like you have the authority to tell other people what to talk about because you have a relative who was in the music industry/you attend car shows/whatever else.

 

Discussion board = discussion. And you're not a moderator.

And a performers diet impacts their performance on stage, which is why I asked about whether she is still a vegetarian. It affects performance.

[Rorman Nockwell 56,711]

People are free to discuss but passing judgement and saying who she should or should not date, that’s no business of the fans. Toxic fan culture can exist and I just wanted to make a point about that.

 

And a performers diet impacts their performance on stage, which is why I asked about whether she is still a vegetarian. It affects performance.

Oho right. Mmhmm.

 

Being in a tumultuous relationship (or even, a non-tumultuous one) could also affect her performance on stage by that logic, so ...

[Downtown Baby Doll 5,310]

her feed is off center now so I suspect she might post 2 more posts soon?

Wait, what do you mean by off center? IMO her IG is a mess, I don't see any kind of pattern 

[Liz Taylor Blues 18,738]

People are free to discuss but passing judgement and saying who she should or should not date, that’s no business of the fans. Toxic fan culture can exist and I just wanted to make a point about that.

You made your point well. love Lana's music, and I enjoy lanaboards most of the time as a place to discuss it, but Lana stans really give me pause sometimes.Some of y'all really do stalk and bully a person you don't know everyday. It's just not healthy to put people on pedestals and then habitually knock them down and repeat infinitely.It is so toxic. There is literally no proof that Lana is dating Sean,and if she is it is still ridicylous to insinuate that makes her racist. That you all are losing it over something that isn't even supported by evidence is telling of a toxic sub-culture