Ultra Violet

her best song like WOW

There's a ton more that leaked in January and I'm unsure if these are included in these folders or not.

Usually the public has a negative perception of killers but this is one of the first times (at least in recent times I can recall in the US but I’m sure it’s happened in the past) the public sees the suspect as more favorable than the victim. Usually police guard so people don’t take him out, but now it’s the opposite. Seems like they’re scared someone will try to free him
 
 Also it’s crazy how many charges he's getting for someone who killed 1 person. Even though he can’t get the death penalty in NY, all the federal charges along with Trump on the way doesn’t look good for him. I don’t really understand how they’re charging him with stalking either. In order for it to be stalking ( in legal terms ), the CEO would’ve known before he was actively being stalked. At least from what’s been made public, it doesn’t sound like that’s the case, so we shall see. 

they want the conversation around the healthcare status quo to stop , so they are doing everything in their power to stop it 

Wait… brilliant  Us Elles take our fashion very seriously!! & perhaps I should begin my lawyer journey after all xx
 
No, as far as I know, none of my ~150 pieces have actually been worn by Lana. Unless somehow she ever donated/sold her clothes and they eventually made their way into my hands, they’ve all just been identical matches. But I have clothes spanning all the way back to the Lizzy days, so who knows! I would love for her to do another pop-up like that again though and I’d be there in a heartbeat. It’s definitely a bucket list wish of mine to own a piece she’s actually worn. Even though I have a massive LDR collection in general, the clothes are my favourite thing to collect because I can actually wear them rather than having them sit on a shelf lol. My natural style anyway is pretty dresses (I don’t own a single pair of pants, I’m not kidding) and the dresses Lana has worn are gorgeous, so it makes it even more special and sensical for me to collect them! x
 
 

I must admit, I am a bit disappointed they didn’t delay the auction until after confirming the authenticity. I’m just hoping no one bids or it’s able to be pulled in time before the auction ends if it does turn out to be a fake. They do state in their terms though that they provide limited guarantees for authenticity, so I assume if a winning bidder determines an item is inauthentic after the sale that they’d be able to return the item and have their purchase refunded. Still no follow-up from them yet as I assume they’re still trying to get ahold of the consignor and reauthenticate, but will let you all know as soon as I hear something x

CRYINGGGG this is literally what happened
 
 
I feel like those photos pretty much prove it's not actually Lana's dress, so I wouldn't recommended anyone even consider bidding. 
IMO the auction house deserves lashings for not instantly putting this dress on pause to investigate it... 

Well, the whole honeymoon album when I first played it. It was 2am, I played the tracks I hadn't heard yet (basically the second half of the album) and was like ".... was that it?" Nothing stuck in my head, no track stood out to me besides the singles.
 
It became my favourite album of all time

Wow such a beautiful dress. I'd love another era where she wears tie-dye hippie style dresses again on stage.
 
Edit: wait i did not know she sold a bunch of her own clothes at a pop up in 2017. What else do we know was sold from there?

Well, the whole honeymoon album when I first played it. It was 2am, I played the tracks I hadn't heard yet (basically the second half of the album) and was like ".... was that it?" Nothing stuck in my head, no track stood out to me besides the singles.
 
It became my favourite album of all time

Again, I don’t believe it’s the auction’s house intent to scam, but rather the consignor’s. The auction house would be partially at fault though for failing to accurately authenticate the item. Which, I understand the dress does look similar enough, but it really wasn’t that difficult to notice the discrepancies even with just the pictures of Lana wearing it onstage compared to the photo of the dress they received. It doesn’t take an expert-level Lana fan to notice fabric print differences lol.
Though at the end of the day, even if the main moral responsibility lies with the consignor aka owner of the item, since the auction house also profits from this as well, they do have a moral duty to at least guarantee the items received from consignors are authentic, or at least declare uncertainty. Meanwhile, this auction house is offering two authentication letters even though the item doesn’t appear to actually be authentic (noting here that it still hasn’t been confirmed to be fake, but it really does seem likely.) I actually had a friend who sold two memorabilia items through an auction house recently, but he went the extra mile himself to personally guarantee the items were authentic before having them listed. One he was already certain about since it was a signed photo he received personally from an artist addressed to him, but he still got it authenticated anyway for the certificate. The second was a signed band poster that he received as a gift, but wasn’t sure of the authenticity. He took it to two authenticators who both said the signatures were likely forged, so he didn't intend on selling it, but upon mentioning it to the auction house they still offered to sell it with a lower starting bid due to lack of authentication.. but again, it was pretty much already confirmed to be fake  Anyway, he made some good money off of the first item, but withheld the other. It just kind of goes to show that these auction houses may not always be reliable, but at the end of the day, it’s the consignor’s intentions that really matter and are the real scammers if an item isn’t really authentic.
I hate to be such a super skeptic raining on the parade, but again I don’t want any Lipsters to be scammed in case this dress isn’t the original, which I’m really feeling like it isn’t x

the amneville earrings 🤩

as gross as it is they probably don’t care as long as they are getting money  why are we as a fanbase always getting scammed... 

Well, the auction is now live…  still haven’t heard another follow-up response from them yet following their initial reply to me stating they’re looking into the matter, but I assume they’re trying to get ahold of the consignor and waiting for their response.
The auction will last for over two weeks though, so hopefully they can pull it down in time if it turns out to be a fake even if people begin to bid.
Again, will keep you all updated x

can i borrow your friends for my Atlantic records lawsuit please x

I have one friend who is a working attorney, another friend who is in law school, and a friend who has worked as a paralegal for well over a decade, so I feel like I’m an honourary lawyer at this point from all of the knowledge they have bestowed upon me over the years  
 
That being said, no one ever try to come for me… I’m backed by the best, it’s a promise not a threat xx 
 
With my expert-level Lana knowledge also in tow, I feel like I could be a pretty reliable third-party authenticator too. I’m literally going to tell this auction house that if they ever have another consignor with a Lana piece they want to sell to feel free to consult with me LMAO I mean as someone who owns ~150 ASO Lana pieces, I feel I’m as knowledgable as it gets in this niche xx

get ur law diploma out baddie

Update, I heard back from the auction house a few minutes ago saying that they will check with the team as well as consignor of the dress, and thanked me for bringing my concern to their attention.
So, this confirms that the dress is being sold on consignment, meaning someone who owns the dress reached out to the auction house with the dress to be sold through the auction on the owner’s behalf, and the profit will be divided between the owner and the auction house. Honestly, that only adds to my suspicion as this could easily be someone who bought another version of this dress and is trying to scam some money through a fraudulent sale. This also makes me more concerned about some of the other dresses the auction house sold that are common finds, because as @ultrablvd and @longtimeman noted, unless the piece came directly from a reliable source such as Lana herself or a team-member or is a piece that’s either one of a kind or has some unique identifying detail (such as an authentic signature, alteration, or pattern placement like in this scenario) how can it truly be reliably authenticated? It’s also interesting that three of the commonly-found pieces were sold in 2016, because that was a pretty prominent year for LDR dress collectors. There was a whole little Instagram community of dress collectors during that time that I was a part of where we would all help each other identify brands and source dresses for our collections and share our new finds with each other. We would sell and trade with each other too. It’s the year I personally bought both of those Topshop dresses that the auction house also sold, and I know other collectors were sourcing them around then too again since it was a pretty big time for collecting. Again, it just makes me suspicious that since these dresses are being sold through consignment, that the consignors could’ve just been random people scamming with other versions of the dresses they found.
Anyway, I will continue to keep you all updated, but it seems now they are working on verifying the authenticity of the dress with the discrepancies I shared with them - the signature, altered sleeves, and overall pattern. Hopefully this matter gets sorted before the auction is due to go live, or they delay it until it can be 100% verified x

wow thanks for this! it's a beautiful dress and with so many pictures, I can maybe one day with the know how (I am learning) sew something like it for myself so. thanks!!! 

Wow such a beautiful dress. I'd love another era where she wears tie-dye hippie style dresses again on stage.
 
Edit: wait i did not know she sold a bunch of her own clothes at a pop up in 2017. What else do we know was sold from there?

if anyone actually wants it
 
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just reverse image search it there are sooo many (hundreds lol) listings 

the way they are scamming people with fake dresses and elle said:
 

One last interesting note for now, sorry for blowing up this thread today lol, but this auction house has also auctioned 5 of Lana’s other dresses.
 
They sold this one from her 2012 House Festival performance for $2000 in 2016. They did not state how they obtained it nor much info at all about it. This dress is originally from Topshop so it’s a common find, I actually have two of these (bought it in too big of a size initially, I still need to sell off some of my size duplicates) -

 
 
They sold this one from her 2012 Latitude Festival performance for $1100 also in 2016. They stated they sourced it from a female stylist (interesting because I believe at this point her stylist was Johnny Blue Eyes?) but she wished to be anonymous so they couldn’t provide any documents to support the dress, but still provided their house’s own certificate of authenticity. This one is also a commonly found Topshop dress, another one that I own lol -

 
 
They sold this dress from her 2012 H&M campaign for $2000 in 2016 again, stating that it’s the one she wore for the photoshoot, but did not state how they obtained it or much information about it. Again, this one was from her H&M campaign, so it was pretty easy to come by -

 

They listed this (actually) vintage dress in 2020 for $600, but it didn’t sell. They stated they obtained it from the pop-up which I can seemingly verify with a photo from the shop where you can see a bit of it in the left edge. Lana was never photographed wearing this though -


 
This one was also listed in 2020 for $1000, but also didn’t sell. They once again stated it was obtained from the pop-up shop, but I cannot personally verify this. I have quite a bit of photos saved of the clothes sold at the pop-up that I just looked through and didn’t see this one; however, I also cannot assume that every item sold was photographed. It’s also signed by Lana, but tbh the signature looks a little suspect to me. Just my opinion, but it does look different from her usual signature, even compared to other dresses she signed from the pop-up. She’s also never been photographed wearing this - 

 
Here’s an example of another dress she signed and sold to a fan at the pop-up, which looks much more like her typical signature -


 
Anyway, not sure what to make of all of this lol but it is really interesting that this is now their 6th Lana clothing piece they’ve auctioned, yet I do feel doubtful about the authenticity of some of these x

Already is
 

(funny fact about this picture, I literally wore this dress that night to a girl’s night out at Chili’s LMAOOO I simply love being overdressed everywhere I go! I also remember my friend asking the waiter if they had espresso martinis only for the waiter to give her a blank stare and be like “ma’am this is a Chili’s” skfnsk the gag is they actually recently added espresso martinis to their menu. Her voice was heard! This pic was also taken in January 2020, two months before the world shut down and forever changed as we knew it. What a surreal time xx)
 
Truly though, I would absolutely love to own a piece actually worn by Lana one day, to add to my collection of ~150 as seen on outfits that I own. However, I just can’t justify spending $1000 on it, especially on a H&M dress I already own that I’m sure I spent less than $100 on  One day hopefully though!! I’ll forever regret not flying out to that LFL popup and snagging a dress.. she needs to do that again xx

Just another fun note, she also wore this dress out to a club with friends in January 2014 lol. It was rare to see her in the same outfit twice around this time especially one from the stage, so it’s pretty cool! She must’ve really liked it x
 

This is the expierience of being a crazy LDR fan!
I emailed the auction house about my concerns, including the photos and descriptions I made in my previous post. We'll see what they have to say about the matter, as they either received another version of the dress that is not the original, used a stock photo, or it photographed differently (but I really don't see how that last option is possible tbh), but nobody is getting scammed on my watch